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samboy1123
Joined: Thu Jan 19, 2012 8:48 am Posts: 73 Location: Victoria
Vehicle: 1995 suzuki sierra hardtop
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Hey Guys, Almost got my g13ba engine back together but Im having trouble with the timing. I lined up the crankshaft pully with the white notch all ok, checked to see if piston was at TDC and it was. The part Im confused about is the camshaft pully, it had two marks one was a raised circular mark and one was a white notch. I looked at the valve sequence and worked out that the circular mark one was the correct one, but after putting it all back together it wouldn't start. Does anyone have a picture of the timing belt all set up on their car it would be much appreciated.
Thanks again guys.
Last edited by samboy1123 on Sat Mar 24, 2012 7:54 pm, edited 2 times in total.
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mrgtt34
Joined: Sat Apr 30, 2011 8:18 am Posts: 190 Location: ipswich
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mate usually dowel to the top and check cam shaft is rocking on no 4 so one lobe at 10:00 and the other at 2:00 if that makes any sence.maybe google it
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royce

omnipotent being
Joined: Sun Jun 11, 2006 11:30 pm Posts: 17216 Location: Pluto
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name your name thread properly so people know WTF is going on
the crank pulley keyway points straight up, the cam pulley keyway points straight down when it points down there will be a mark on the edge of the cam pulley they lines up with a similar mark on teh cover behind it
the dizzy will need to be pointing at CYLINDER FOUR not one.
there are also 2 ways the cam pulley can go on if you removed it, marked E and I, one is right, the other it wont start or will only jsut idle, I cant remember which is which so youll need to try and see or search
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samboy1123
Joined: Thu Jan 19, 2012 8:48 am Posts: 73 Location: Victoria
Vehicle: 1995 suzuki sierra hardtop
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Sorry about the name mate, I think you may have solve all my issues. Thanks for your help.
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skyman
Joined: Wed Nov 17, 2010 2:06 pm Posts: 1328 Location: Yakima, wa (us)
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Ok, here's the deal. When the two marks are facing up at 12 o'clock cylinder #4 is at top dead center and ready to fire. If you line the marks up with the crank pointing to the mark at 12'o clock, and the cam pointing down at 6 o'clock then cylinder #1 is at top dead center. I know it seems backwards, but this is how the 1.3/1.6-8 valves are setup. One of the manuals that the parts stores sell is actually wrong about this, and if you follow their directions the timing will be 180° off. So line both marks up with their notches pointing up, pull the distributor cap and make sure the rotor is pointing to #4. It can be really confusing, because #1 and #4 pistons hit TDC at the same time, However #1 will be on the exhaust stroke, while #4 will be TDC on the compression stroke. I hope that helps 
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skyman
Joined: Wed Nov 17, 2010 2:06 pm Posts: 1328 Location: Yakima, wa (us)
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Looks like a royce beat me to it. 
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samboy1123
Joined: Thu Jan 19, 2012 8:48 am Posts: 73 Location: Victoria
Vehicle: 1995 suzuki sierra hardtop
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 Posted: Sat Mar 24, 2012 6:34 pm |
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Thanks guys I'd say that will definately be my problem, will find out tomorrow. Cheers
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want33s

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Joined: Fri Nov 16, 2007 10:30 pm Posts: 8134 Location: Sunshine Coast Qld
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royce wrote: name your name thread properly so people know WTF is going on Samboy: Go to your first post and click the EDIT button. Rename the thread to something like "G13BA timing" or "1.3 timing" etc.. so other users may find it in a search.
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atari4x4

az supporter
Joined: Mon Dec 11, 2006 10:30 pm Posts: 34842 Location: East Radelayed
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now you've got your answer, please edit your first post to fix up the title so it reflects the problem & answer for the next person who searches for timing problems.  edit: beaten 
_________________ You're just hating because you don't understand
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want33s

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Joined: Fri Nov 16, 2007 10:30 pm Posts: 8134 Location: Sunshine Coast Qld
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"Correct camshaft/crankshaft setup"
Nobody will ever find that.
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samboy1123
Joined: Thu Jan 19, 2012 8:48 am Posts: 73 Location: Victoria
Vehicle: 1995 suzuki sierra hardtop
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Ok what would you suggest there are already a million threads with timing in the title.
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samboy1123
Joined: Thu Jan 19, 2012 8:48 am Posts: 73 Location: Victoria
Vehicle: 1995 suzuki sierra hardtop
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 Posted: Sat Mar 24, 2012 7:55 pm |
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All fixed should probably read stuff before I type stuff
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want33s

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Joined: Fri Nov 16, 2007 10:30 pm Posts: 8134 Location: Sunshine Coast Qld
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samboy1123 wrote: All fixed should probably read stuff before I type stuff It is always a good idea to "Be sure brain is engaged before operating mouth". 
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