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ms1991
Joined: Tue Jan 24, 2012 6:49 am Posts: 210 Location: Melbourne
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Alright guys so i done a quick search and im a little confused as to EXACTLY whats needed to complete the alloy to steel change over.
I have a 97 swb vit with a g16b 5 speed.
What year Grand Vitara do i source the steel diff housing from and is there any other parts I need from the GV, such as mounts,carriers?
Is it a matter of just removing the GV diff centre and installing my original diff centre in?
What is the 3rd member?
Sorry for the noob questions, hope you guys can shed some light on this for me.
thanks, Mark.
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got_bar_work
Joined: Sat May 15, 2010 8:30 pm Posts: 2214 Location: Brisbane
Vehicle: SQ625
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U want the housing the diff carrier The pinion mount I used a Sierra hemisphere in the gv carrier so I can use a Sierra rear locker
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christover1

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Joined: Tue Jul 15, 2008 11:30 pm Posts: 8203 Location: Melbourne
Vehicle: Pajero 91 NH 3.0 SWB
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My steel diff, axle housing and mount came from a 98 GV V6 Manual. Ratio was 4.3 in the GV, my 5;12 Vitara diff bolted in easily.. Need to fit the Vit Ring and Pinion with its carrier into the gv steel housing. I blocked the air line hole to keep crud out. The gv has a vaccuum operated free wheel thing.
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ms1991
Joined: Tue Jan 24, 2012 6:49 am Posts: 210 Location: Melbourne
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thanks for the info guys, cleared things up for me. Might look into locking it whilst its all out:)
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thesupervisor
Joined: Sat Jul 30, 2011 12:14 am Posts: 193 Location: perth
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make sure you get the right bracket from donor car the one that goes onto the snout of the difff
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ms1991
Joined: Tue Jan 24, 2012 6:49 am Posts: 210 Location: Melbourne
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thesupervisor wrote: make sure you get the right bracket from donor car the one that goes onto the snout of the difff yeah that shouldnt be a problem, i was planning on grabbing all the brackets to be safe. cheers mate
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DarkHorse

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Joined: Wed Apr 14, 2010 11:30 pm Posts: 5413
Vehicle: 08 SV650
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Early V6 manual GV, up until I think about 01 they had a pinion (3rd/snout) mount that is the same shape as the Vit, after that it's a different shape but the bolt pattern to the cross-member is exactly the same, so either will work. Just make sure you unbolt from the cross-member so the mount comes with. The other two brackets will fit, but you'll only get three bolts each side - I've been running like that for over a year, it's fine.
Atari has a good pic of the two styles of mount...
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atari4x4

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Joined: Mon Dec 11, 2006 10:30 pm Posts: 34842 Location: East Radelayed
Vehicle: SV420+SV620 Vitara's
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christover1 wrote: My steel diff, axle housing and mount came from a 98 GV V6 Manual. Ratio was 4.3 in the GV, my 5;12 Vitara diff bolted in easily.. Need to fit the Vit Ring and Pinion with its carrier into the gv steel housing. I blocked the air line hole to keep crud out. The gv has a vaccuum operated free wheel thing. ^^^ what he said, CBF'd typing pics of different pinion mounts, closest one is the later style of mount... broken on is the earlier GV type/Vitara  being a 97 vit, it should already have 26 spline axles & cv's i'm assuming it's got the type III dashboard (rounded with moulded gauge cluster the same as mine)
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got_bar_work
Joined: Sat May 15, 2010 8:30 pm Posts: 2214 Location: Brisbane
Vehicle: SQ625
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The new shape pinion bracket is better to run diff drop brackets as well U can weld the holes up and drill new ones on a angle so that there is no load on the pinion
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Ashley
Joined: Sun Mar 04, 2007 10:30 pm Posts: 299 Location: Ballarat
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I'll be starting my swap tomorrow. When swapping the diffs over do I need to get the back lash reset?
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christover1

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Joined: Tue Jul 15, 2008 11:30 pm Posts: 8203 Location: Melbourne
Vehicle: Pajero 91 NH 3.0 SWB
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Ashley wrote: I'll be starting my swap tomorrow. When swapping the diffs over do I need to get the back lash reset? Yes that is the best thing to do. But I never did. I adjusted it by feel. Thats the risky way.
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Ashley
Joined: Sun Mar 04, 2007 10:30 pm Posts: 299 Location: Ballarat
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Just in the process of swapping mine over at the moment. The bloke at the diff joint left the 26 spline side gears in so now i need to buy a drivers side CV joint. Which model Vitara should I buy one from? Also the diff guy is convinced it has a font locker installed already. I read earlier that they come with some kind of air actuated free wheeling hubs. Ive uploaded some pics, can anyone confirm what it is? He decided to leave it in there.  
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atari4x4

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Joined: Mon Dec 11, 2006 10:30 pm Posts: 34842 Location: East Radelayed
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standard GV front diff assembly 
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Ashley
Joined: Sun Mar 04, 2007 10:30 pm Posts: 299 Location: Ballarat
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So its no air locker? some people just cant be convinced.
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got_bar_work
Joined: Sat May 15, 2010 8:30 pm Posts: 2214 Location: Brisbane
Vehicle: SQ625
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If u have a 1.6 Then u need to find a rhs cv out of a 1.6 1996 with the new shape dash Or better yet get a lhs axel cut down and resplined and run lhs cv on both sides And that is a gv diff Just plug the hole with a bolt
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Ashley
Joined: Sun Mar 04, 2007 10:30 pm Posts: 299 Location: Ballarat
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I have a feeling i need to take it back to the diff place. Without any air presure on it the diff is just in free wheeling mode. More money down the drain.
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atari4x4

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Joined: Mon Dec 11, 2006 10:30 pm Posts: 34842 Location: East Radelayed
Vehicle: SV420+SV620 Vitara's
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he should have ditched the air operated GV Hemisphere, Crownwheel & Pinion & used the 5.12:1 Vitara Crownwheel, Pinion & Hemisphere in the Steel GV diff
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shandy92

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Joined: Tue Nov 25, 2008 10:30 pm Posts: 5066 Location: perth, Australia
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mate all you need is the housing, i have almost thrown everything else in the bin. all ur doing is swapping ur ring and pinion etc into the new housing. forget about the air operated stuff, its completely irrelevant for what you want and wont work in ur car anyways.
i used my original axles and side gears, nothing from the gv diff
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Sweenz
Joined: Wed Sep 26, 2012 4:34 pm Posts: 43 Location: Sydney, NSW
Vehicle: 1990 SWB Vitara
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Just want some clarification on the 22/26 CV spline differences. It's just the end that goes into the diff that's different right? The end which goes into the wheel hub is universal right throughout the different year model vitaras?
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atari4x4

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Joined: Mon Dec 11, 2006 10:30 pm Posts: 34842 Location: East Radelayed
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yeah hub end is standard across the range, the LHS axle that goes in the diff will either be 22 or 26 as per the RHS (year dependant)
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Sweenz
Joined: Wed Sep 26, 2012 4:34 pm Posts: 43 Location: Sydney, NSW
Vehicle: 1990 SWB Vitara
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As for getting the 26 spline side gears that go inside the diff housing does anyone know where to source them locally? I know that i can use rear sierra side diff rears but haven't been able to find any of them either. LROR is the only pace Ive seen so far that has them. There a bit to pricey though and I need them nowish.
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oohsam
Joined: Mon Apr 30, 2012 7:12 pm Posts: 489 Location: south east melbourne
Vehicle: 96 vit hardtop
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Hey mate about to do.the same thing I see its been about a month, care to share any info of progress and results and anything To look out for
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