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Deego
Joined: Fri Mar 23, 2012 11:04 am Posts: 187
Vehicle: Suzuki sierra
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 Posted: Fri Apr 13, 2012 7:10 pm |
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I wanna get reduction gears for my sierra I still won't to keep my stock axle gearing.just won't to know what's the best ratio for me.i do a lot of 4wding and also use it as a daily car to get around in.
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GRPABT1
Joined: Mon Nov 19, 2007 10:30 pm Posts: 731 Location: Townsville
Vehicle: 88 SWB WT Sierra soft top ute
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 Posted: Fri Apr 13, 2012 7:17 pm |
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What size tyre do you plan to run, what gearbox do you have, what current diff gears do you have, what model of sierra is it and what motor are you running?
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Deego
Joined: Fri Mar 23, 2012 11:04 am Posts: 187
Vehicle: Suzuki sierra
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 Posted: Fri Apr 13, 2012 7:20 pm |
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30 inch tyres 1.3l engine.standard gearbox it's a 1990.dont know what diff gears I'm running sorry
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stewy91

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Joined: Thu Aug 26, 2010 11:16 am Posts: 287 Location: deception bay
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 Posted: Fri Apr 13, 2012 9:23 pm |
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For 30 inch tyres i would say 4.9 or 5.14 at most and if you choose to go 31's the 5.14 will still do fine
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stockman

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Joined: Thu Nov 05, 2009 10:30 pm Posts: 5319 Location: Canberra
Vehicle: 4wd
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 Posted: Fri Apr 13, 2012 9:24 pm |
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Tyre size?
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Joshyboy26
Joined: Thu Sep 01, 2011 11:48 pm Posts: 814 Location: kinglake, VIC
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Look on the lowrangeoffroad website it says what ratio to use for what tyre size
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stewy91

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Joined: Thu Aug 26, 2010 11:16 am Posts: 287 Location: deception bay
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 Posted: Fri Apr 13, 2012 9:26 pm |
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For 30's i would say 4.9's or 5.14's
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Deego
Joined: Fri Mar 23, 2012 11:04 am Posts: 187
Vehicle: Suzuki sierra
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 Posted: Fri Apr 13, 2012 9:45 pm |
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I fourby regularly and use my car daily
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abclarke
Joined: Mon Feb 14, 2011 8:19 am Posts: 1966 Location: Couridjah
Vehicle: 1985 Holden Drover
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 Posted: Fri Apr 13, 2012 9:49 pm |
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Im leaning towards 4.9s just because of the amount of highway kms i do. Depends if your just doing suburbs and 4wding id go with the 5.14s imo?
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Deego
Joined: Fri Mar 23, 2012 11:04 am Posts: 187
Vehicle: Suzuki sierra
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 Posted: Fri Apr 13, 2012 9:56 pm |
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Do reduction gears give you more power
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atari4x4

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Joined: Mon Dec 11, 2006 10:30 pm Posts: 34842 Location: East Radelayed
Vehicle: SV420+SV620 Vitara's
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stockman

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Joined: Thu Nov 05, 2009 10:30 pm Posts: 5319 Location: Canberra
Vehicle: 4wd
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Deego wrote: Do reduction gears give you more power They do, but only about 12.975%. FUR would give you a slightly higher power increase, mix the two together and it could be lethal!
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atari4x4

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Joined: Mon Dec 11, 2006 10:30 pm Posts: 34842 Location: East Radelayed
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no they won't give you "more" power but will give you more gear reduction giving you back the "lost" power from larger tyres.
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Shansh

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Joined: Sun May 23, 2010 9:35 am Posts: 1816 Location: Goulburn NSW
Vehicle: Ducati Monster
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makes the power more "usable" by correcting the gearing that was changed by the size increase in the tyre
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Shansh

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Joined: Sun May 23, 2010 9:35 am Posts: 1816 Location: Goulburn NSW
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FUR plus dual discombobulators would be awesome!!! i put a NOS kit plus a supercharger on mine and it was fully sick bro!!
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SierraDan

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Joined: Fri Feb 04, 2011 10:55 pm Posts: 9348 Location: Newcastle
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atari4x4 wrote: no they won't give you "more" power but will give you more gear reduction giving you back the "lost" power from larger tyres. You're wrong Nintendo. My gears gave me 23hp.
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GRPABT1
Joined: Mon Nov 19, 2007 10:30 pm Posts: 731 Location: Townsville
Vehicle: 88 SWB WT Sierra soft top ute
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I daily drive on stock tyres with 6.5 gearing and a GTi motor which loves to rev even more than the stock 1.3L. After doing so I will always suggest more gearing is better, so if staying with 30's I would suggest the 5.14 transfer gears if not higher again, depending on the amount of highway km's you travel.
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Bugsta
Joined: Fri Oct 30, 2009 10:30 pm Posts: 1754 Location: North Brisbane
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SierraDan wrote: atari4x4 wrote: no they won't give you "more" power but will give you more gear reduction giving you back the "lost" power from larger tyres. You're wrong Nintendo. My gears gave me 23hp. Not wrong at all. You can't get more power than what you started with (ie, what an engine is capable of providing) by changing gearing of the vehicle. What you can do is regain what you have lost by messing with the original design by way of larger diameter wheels. By readjusting the gearing to suit the new treads, you shift the rev to road speed/rolling diameter ratio back to match the original design, or what suits your driving style/vehicle setup. Otherwise it would be like saying... "I removed the back seats, the spare and half the guards and I got more power". Not possible. All you did was make the power you have be used more efficiently, or as mentiond just 'more usable'. Which is a good thing to do.
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abclarke
Joined: Mon Feb 14, 2011 8:19 am Posts: 1966 Location: Couridjah
Vehicle: 1985 Holden Drover
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SierraDan wrote: atari4x4 wrote: no they won't give you "more" power but will give you more gear reduction giving you back the "lost" power from larger tyres. You're wrong Nintendo. My gears gave me 23hp. What if i retro fitted one of those peter brock chips to the zook as well? Will i get more of an increase? 
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SierraDan

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Joined: Fri Feb 04, 2011 10:55 pm Posts: 9348 Location: Newcastle
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Bugsta wrote: SierraDan wrote: atari4x4 wrote: no they won't give you "more" power but will give you more gear reduction giving you back the "lost" power from larger tyres. You're wrong Nintendo. My gears gave me 23hp. "I removed the back seats, the spare and half the guards and I got more power"..  I was joking.. what i said was exactly as retarded as that ^
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Bugsta
Joined: Fri Oct 30, 2009 10:30 pm Posts: 1754 Location: North Brisbane
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Ahh fair enough 
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wolf_rt

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Joined: Mon Jan 23, 2012 7:56 am Posts: 235 Location: Toowoomba, QLD
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GRPABT1 wrote: I daily drive on stock tyres with 6.5 gearing and a GTi motor which loves to rev even more than the stock 1.3L. After doing so I will always suggest more gearing is better, so if staying with 30's I would suggest the 5.14 transfer gears if not higher again, depending on the amount of highway km's you travel. I have the 5.14's on 30's in a stocko '90 WT, and the gearing is as per stock... still struggles to keep 5th gear on the hills, so i wouldn't reccoment 4.9's for highway work unless you live somewhere very flat
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alien
Joined: Wed Mar 24, 2010 10:30 pm Posts: 16343 Location: Perth
Vehicle: '92 Sierra, 1.6efi, SPOA, 31s.
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i run 5.14's and 31s on my sierra, but i've got a 1.6L EFI engine... IMO if you're keeping the 1.3 and going 31s you should get 6.5s - its only a few percent lower in high range but that few percent would be worth its weight in gold up a hill.
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SierraDan

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Joined: Fri Feb 04, 2011 10:55 pm Posts: 9348 Location: Newcastle
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I have no issues with 5.14's and a 1.3 on 31's.
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wolf_rt

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Joined: Mon Jan 23, 2012 7:56 am Posts: 235 Location: Toowoomba, QLD
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alien wrote: i run 5.14's and 31s on my sierra, but i've got a 1.6L EFI engine... IMO if you're keeping the 1.3 and going 31s you should get 6.5s - its only a few percent lower in high range but that few percent would be worth its weight in gold up a hill. i cant see that the 2% diffrence of the high range is really relevent.... I think the choice of 5.14's or 6.5's should be made solely on your desired low range ratios.
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SierraDan

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Joined: Fri Feb 04, 2011 10:55 pm Posts: 9348 Location: Newcastle
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^^^ x2. Some 3.9 diffs would even that out.
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GRPABT1
Joined: Mon Nov 19, 2007 10:30 pm Posts: 731 Location: Townsville
Vehicle: 88 SWB WT Sierra soft top ute
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I honestly think the more gearing the better in high range for these little motors. Like I said, 6.5's and stock tyres and my zook is better to drive than ever on road, I wouldn't drive for hours at highway speeds though.
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SierraDan

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Joined: Fri Feb 04, 2011 10:55 pm Posts: 9348 Location: Newcastle
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Yeah and there's the difference. I'm happy to sacrifice doing 110 on the freeway and just sit on 80-90. Others may not.
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Deego
Joined: Fri Mar 23, 2012 11:04 am Posts: 187
Vehicle: Suzuki sierra
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Gwagensteve
Joined: Thu Feb 26, 2009 10:30 pm Posts: 13008 Location: Melbourne
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They're taking the piss because you posted the same question all over the place. Its an acronym for "Fronts in Rear" the opposite of what everyone does, which is "rears up front"
Lurk a bit more, do lots of reading and research, and post well-researched questions. It will avoid people making jokes at your expense.
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