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BlueSuzy

az supporter
Joined: Sun May 04, 2008 11:30 pm Posts: 9716 Location: NSW
Vehicle: SJ51 LWB, SJ70 SWB
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 Posted: Fri Apr 03, 2009 3:11 am |
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Ok Suzy is the biggest heap of shit i've ever owned!
But i would still rather drive her then the smooth fast civic that i had..Weird huh!..Or a *cough*x-trail*cough*..
Now down to business,
My problem question.
* When headlights are ON i have no rear power, e.g. numberplate lights, brake/tailights and blinkers no matter what.
* When headlights are OFF, i get normal brake lights and rear blinkers.
* Dashlights do work. so its not a simple fuse. (Damn suzy has had that before)
The other day i heard something pickup and snap in my lights/ steering/combination switches.
Is this a possible link to my problem?
_________________ BlueSuzy wrote: I'm over the G16b's.
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want33s

az supporter
Joined: Fri Nov 16, 2007 10:30 pm Posts: 8134 Location: Sunshine Coast Qld
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 Posted: Fri Apr 03, 2009 3:53 am |
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Could be several things causing this particular problem but I'd start by checking the trailer plug (if fitted).
Jas.
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lump_a_charcoal

az supporter
Joined: Wed Feb 28, 2007 10:30 pm Posts: 4454 Location: Botany, NSW
Vehicle: MY2019 Jimny
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 Posted: Fri Apr 03, 2009 3:57 am |
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I reckon it is a bad earth or something like that...
Insure it and burn it.
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BlueSuzy

az supporter
Joined: Sun May 04, 2008 11:30 pm Posts: 9716 Location: NSW
Vehicle: SJ51 LWB, SJ70 SWB
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 Posted: Fri Apr 03, 2009 4:02 am |
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No trailer plug.
No insurance, no matches, She's not a jeep.
So the earth for the tailights?
They work, just not with the headlights on..
Going to have a squiz later in the morning..
_________________ BlueSuzy wrote: I'm over the G16b's.
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want33s

az supporter
Joined: Fri Nov 16, 2007 10:30 pm Posts: 8134 Location: Sunshine Coast Qld
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 Posted: Fri Apr 03, 2009 4:23 am |
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No trailer plug..... OK... next guess would be the switch on the column not engaging front & rear at the same time..
Electrical contact cleaner spray or try another column.
Jas.
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Rockhopper
Joined: Sun Jun 22, 2008 11:30 pm Posts: 1265 Location: Chipping Norton
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 Posted: Fri Apr 03, 2009 10:04 am |
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I agree with Lump_a_Charcoal. 99% of cases I've seen this, it's turned out to be a bad earth somewhere.
_________________ We're riding in the Ninky Nonk!
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royce

omnipotent being
Joined: Sun Jun 11, 2006 11:30 pm Posts: 17216 Location: Pluto
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 Posted: Fri Apr 03, 2009 11:19 am |
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if you click the switch to only parkers do you get taillights? and then will tailights and brake lights work at teh same time or do they both go out when you brake?
the only correlation between the HEADLIGHTS and the tailights is that stupid fuse that blows and ti all goes wierd, its possible yuou could get some conductive stuff in teh combination switch but that doest account for the stop lights
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Damo

az supporter
Joined: Sat Jul 22, 2006 11:30 pm Posts: 4661 Location: Brisbane
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 Posted: Fri Apr 03, 2009 11:47 am |
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Rockhopper wrote: I agree with Lump_a_Charcoal. 99% of cases I've seen this, it's turned out to be a bad earth somewhere.
This would be the first thing I would check too.
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BlueSuzy

az supporter
Joined: Sun May 04, 2008 11:30 pm Posts: 9716 Location: NSW
Vehicle: SJ51 LWB, SJ70 SWB
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 Posted: Fri Apr 03, 2009 11:59 am |
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I get no rear lights with any parker lights or headlights.
thanks guys, i'm going to have a look very soon as im eating my fruit muffins 
_________________ BlueSuzy wrote: I'm over the G16b's.
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BlueSuzy

az supporter
Joined: Sun May 04, 2008 11:30 pm Posts: 9716 Location: NSW
Vehicle: SJ51 LWB, SJ70 SWB
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 Posted: Fri Apr 03, 2009 12:55 pm |
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Thanks guys, Was very simple, my screw that i had the rear earth on was loose, fixed it straight away!!
Yet again auszookers has helped me. Alot faster then outers.. 
_________________ BlueSuzy wrote: I'm over the G16b's.
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Scrawny

I live here!
Joined: Tue Jan 29, 2008 10:30 pm Posts: 10528 Location: Brissie
Vehicle: Popemobile
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 Posted: Fri Apr 03, 2009 1:27 pm |
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Most electrical problems on Sierras seem to come down to a bad earth somewhere. It's those stupid screws that were a bad idea on Suzuki's part 
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BlueSuzy

az supporter
Joined: Sun May 04, 2008 11:30 pm Posts: 9716 Location: NSW
Vehicle: SJ51 LWB, SJ70 SWB
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 Posted: Fri Apr 03, 2009 2:33 pm |
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Buhaha, this was a screw that i put in..
To add to the catrastophe! 
_________________ BlueSuzy wrote: I'm over the G16b's.
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Hybrid

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Joined: Mon Apr 21, 2008 11:30 pm Posts: 1095 Location: Bulimba, Brisbane
Vehicle: '92 Sierra
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 Posted: Fri Apr 03, 2009 4:38 pm |
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BlueSuzy wrote: Buhaha, this was a screw that i put in.. To add to the catrastophe! 
Better than my screw...well bolt driven catastrophe. When I rebuilt the the gearbox I didn't put a washer on one of the bolts that goes in the side of the case. It stopped it going into reverse or 5th gear lol. Only just worked it out on the weekend.
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Damo

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Joined: Sat Jul 22, 2006 11:30 pm Posts: 4661 Location: Brisbane
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 Posted: Fri Apr 03, 2009 6:09 pm |
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Hybrid wrote: BlueSuzy wrote: Buhaha, this was a screw that i put in.. To add to the catrastophe!  Better than my screw...well bolt driven catastrophe. When I rebuilt the the gearbox I didn't put a washer on one of the bolts that goes in the side of the case. It stopped it going into reverse or 5th gear lol. Only just worked it out on the weekend.
Hmmph! Take all the credit why don't you 
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Rockhopper
Joined: Sun Jun 22, 2008 11:30 pm Posts: 1265 Location: Chipping Norton
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 Posted: Fri Apr 03, 2009 8:40 pm |
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royce wrote: if you click the switch to only parkers do you get taillights? and then will tailights and brake lights work at teh same time or do they both go out when you brake?
the only correlation between the HEADLIGHTS and the tailights is that stupid fuse that blows and ti all goes wierd, its possible yuou could get some conductive stuff in teh combination switch but that doest account for the stop lights
Holy Crap!! I know it was early when you typed this, but were you still half asleep? Took me a couple of reads to figure out what you were going on about 
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steve

I live here!
Joined: Sun Jun 11, 2006 11:30 pm Posts: 7681 Location: Brisbane
Vehicle: 75 Cruiser
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 Posted: Fri Apr 03, 2009 9:12 pm |
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he's a bit dislexic, but i understood it ok.
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lump_a_charcoal

az supporter
Joined: Wed Feb 28, 2007 10:30 pm Posts: 4454 Location: Botany, NSW
Vehicle: MY2019 Jimny
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 Posted: Fri Apr 03, 2009 9:43 pm |
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royce

omnipotent being
Joined: Sun Jun 11, 2006 11:30 pm Posts: 17216 Location: Pluto
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 Posted: Fri Apr 03, 2009 10:20 pm |
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Rockhopper wrote: royce wrote: if you click the switch to only parkers do you get taillights? and then will tailights and brake lights work at teh same time or do they both go out when you brake?
the only correlation between the HEADLIGHTS and the tailights is that stupid fuse that blows and ti all goes wierd, its possible yuou could get some conductive stuff in teh combination switch but that doest account for the stop lights Holy Crap!! I know it was early when you typed this, but were you still half asleep? Took me a couple of reads to figure out what you were going on about 
I type like that on purpose, its faster and then I know who really is paying attention 
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BlueSuzy

az supporter
Joined: Sun May 04, 2008 11:30 pm Posts: 9716 Location: NSW
Vehicle: SJ51 LWB, SJ70 SWB
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 Posted: Sat Apr 04, 2009 5:04 am |
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Well everyone chipped in alittle. Thanks again.
Royce was just trying to fit in wit teh txtn nOoBs
BUT DON"T GO AWAY!!
Another problem is my reverse lights.
I had mini driving lights wired up to original wiring.
They lasted for a while then they have blown something.
Fuse is ok.
No power up the back to reverse lights at all.
Yes i was a nOOb at one stage(still am at heart)
Would it be the reverse switch in the sierra gearbox??
I have new led ones so they should'nt blow up again.
I guess it may be a matter of finding where the power has stopped through the lines..
_________________ BlueSuzy wrote: I'm over the G16b's.
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lump_a_charcoal

az supporter
Joined: Wed Feb 28, 2007 10:30 pm Posts: 4454 Location: Botany, NSW
Vehicle: MY2019 Jimny
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 Posted: Sat Apr 04, 2009 5:51 am |
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It is your reverse switch, which is not designed for spotties...
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BlueSuzy

az supporter
Joined: Sun May 04, 2008 11:30 pm Posts: 9716 Location: NSW
Vehicle: SJ51 LWB, SJ70 SWB
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 Posted: Sat Apr 04, 2009 6:13 am |
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yeah thats sorta what i was thinking..
Does anyone know which switch/plug in gear box it is? I want to do a quick swap thats all 
_________________ BlueSuzy wrote: I'm over the G16b's.
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Scrawny

I live here!
Joined: Tue Jan 29, 2008 10:30 pm Posts: 10528 Location: Brissie
Vehicle: Popemobile
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 Posted: Sat Apr 04, 2009 10:56 am |
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Additional lights need to be relayed, just like front spot lights.
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Rockhopper
Joined: Sun Jun 22, 2008 11:30 pm Posts: 1265 Location: Chipping Norton
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 Posted: Sat Apr 04, 2009 11:12 am |
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ScrawnC wrote: Additional lights need to be relayed, just like front spot lights.
awww you beat me to it.
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royce

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Joined: Sun Jun 11, 2006 11:30 pm Posts: 17216 Location: Pluto
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 Posted: Sat Apr 04, 2009 11:14 am |
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If my memory serves my correctly the colours of the wiring loom that is attached to the gearbox reverse switch are yellow for one wire and red for the other, these wires are also covered in a black PVC Sheath for protection.
These two wires terminate in a white 2 pin plug that then connects to a corresponding plug in the vehicle main wiring loom, the location of this plug is approximately within the region of the centre top of the firewall, the plug usually co-habitates the area the factory ignition coil is situated.
It is generally considered best practice to make use of a relay when fitting electrical accesories that it may be possible that they will draw more current then the switching system is engineered to operate with or if the switching system will result in longer than optimal cable lengths, In my opinion lights consisting of Light Emitting Diodes would not require a relay due to their low current draw requirements, however reverse lights illuminated by Halogen or High Intensity Discharge Xenon lighting would be a lot more effective in illuminating the area.
I would also recommend such lights be fitted with an isolating switch, so as not to bother other motorists when not required.
Now for Rockhopper
yeah its teh red and yellow up near the firewall you should of fitted a relay to teh spotties but leds will be ok but not at bright HTH KTHXBI!!!
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lump_a_charcoal

az supporter
Joined: Wed Feb 28, 2007 10:30 pm Posts: 4454 Location: Botany, NSW
Vehicle: MY2019 Jimny
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 Posted: Sat Apr 04, 2009 1:21 pm |
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Wanker.
Last edited by lump_a_charcoal on Sat Apr 04, 2009 2:55 pm, edited 1 time in total.
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BlueSuzy

az supporter
Joined: Sun May 04, 2008 11:30 pm Posts: 9716 Location: NSW
Vehicle: SJ51 LWB, SJ70 SWB
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 Posted: Sat Apr 04, 2009 2:42 pm |
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Yeah i hooked them up instead of the reverse lights, but yeah high wattage globes dont mix with stock wiring
An excellent paragraph Royce!
_________________ BlueSuzy wrote: I'm over the G16b's.
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royce

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Joined: Sun Jun 11, 2006 11:30 pm Posts: 17216 Location: Pluto
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 Posted: Sat Apr 04, 2009 2:59 pm |
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lump_a_charcoal wrote: Wanker.
Why the change of heart form your original quote and reply?
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Zook_Fan

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Joined: Thu Mar 13, 2008 10:30 pm Posts: 4530 Location: Toowoomba
Vehicle: Maruti and LJ80's
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 Posted: Sat Apr 04, 2009 3:01 pm |
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lump_a_charcoal

az supporter
Joined: Wed Feb 28, 2007 10:30 pm Posts: 4454 Location: Botany, NSW
Vehicle: MY2019 Jimny
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 Posted: Sat Apr 04, 2009 4:07 pm |
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Because someone edited it...
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royce

omnipotent being
Joined: Sun Jun 11, 2006 11:30 pm Posts: 17216 Location: Pluto
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 Posted: Sat Apr 04, 2009 4:11 pm |
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lump_a_charcoal wrote: Because someone edited it...
did it show who? what did they say?
wasnt me so it only leaves to other people to point the finger at, unless something has gone funny we need to fix
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