[Jord]

Hi all,

Im spoiling myself with a brand spanking new car, and I'm booking it in to get all the fruite at ARB.
She will be receiving front and rear lockers, bull bar, winch, 2" lift, snorkel, reace style towbar and a few other goodies too!
I know that all these mod;s aren't necessary for these capable little beasts but I thought... "why not"

Before everyone starts to think im just throwing my money away, this is going through a company lease program and it all comes from pre-tax income, so it hugley reduces my tax. (accountant even says so )

Anyway I just have one last thing to sort out before I can hand all the quotes over and get my new beast and thats the tires.

I dont actually know what size tires come standard on these cars, but can anyone advise me at to a good size tire that would suite the jimny with a 2" lift, I dont want the biggest i can fit, just something that will be better then stock, and look good with the 2" lift too.

Oh and if you have a recommendation as to a brand thats would be good too!

thanks alot
Jordan

[smiffkid]

Depends if u wanna chop anything or not.
U can get 235s on with the right amount of cutting

[zooky08]

Stock is 205. 215s are near perfect for 2" lift no triming needed.
Are you after muddies or a all terrain tyre.

[neofitou]

x2 on the 215x75R15s they go on the stock rims, and gearing is bearable.

pick your tread for your terrain, then look at what models suit that.
There are lots of options, but you cant go wrong with BFG KM2s for all round offroadyness, or the KO for a decent all terrian with very long wear.

[Jord]

Thanks guys, I would rather not cut anything, as this is my first brand new car im sure it will a little difficult to do so.

Im chasing an all terrain tyre as it is also a daily drive for weekdays.

I used to run the KO's on my hilux and was pretty happy with em! might look into pricing on tuesday (damn public holidays)


thanks again
Jordan

[neofitou]

Here's a good list of other ATs, with TireRack's survey results on the tires.
http://www.tirerack.com/tires/surveyres ... ?type=ORAT

[Liljim]

If you don't want to cut anything go BFG KM2s in 215/75/15 as mentioned.
I have them on mine and it drives fine on the road with very little road noise for a mud tyre, and man are they awesome off road!

They look tough too check my thread out to see what they look like.

viewtopic.php?f=4&t=23876&hilit=gold+jimny+liljim

[Mike57]

As others have said the 215/75's are as big as you want to go without stuffing up your warranty. If you want to go bigger wait until it is out of warranty and then you will need to look at new gearing as well.

[Lockie666]

What ARB are you looking at getting the fitting done? IMHO I wouldn't get a OME lift for a jimny if you were looking to "lift" it they are just a stiffer spring than stock, you might get 40mm out of it. There are plenty of aftermarket lift-kits for jimnys out there if you are looking for lift for bigger tyres.

[Mike57]

I have the OME 40mm lift and you do just get 40mm. I find the shocks are very soft and this is great for a comfy ride but it does feel a bit loose on rocky tracks. If I was doing it again I would get the OME sports shocks.

I have had leased cars for the past 12 years although I now own the last one I had outright. If you are buying a new vehicle and want to retain the warranty you are going to need to get the lift kit fitted by a company that your dealer is prepared to work with and one that will give you a warranty with the suspension. I expect your leasing company will want to see that as well. This means that ARB might be one of the few choices you are going to be given.

Another thing to remember is that in most states 215/75 is the largest tyre that you can legally fit to the Jimny. As this is a leased vehicle you need to be careful about what the leasing company will allow. Of course you can do what you want until you have some sort of problem. Read the fine print in the lease about what you are allowed to do.

[Rockhopper]

Lockie666 wrote:

What ARB are you looking at getting the fitting done? IMHO I wouldn't get a OME lift for a jimny if you were looking to "lift" it they are just a stiffer spring than stock, you might get 40mm out of it. There are plenty of aftermarket lift-kits for jimnys out there if you are looking for lift for bigger tyres.

Think you may be a little off there mate. There is nothing 'stiff' about an ome 40mm kit. If anything, they are way softer than the standard suspension. I know, I have one fitted to mine. The kit is fine, flex's great, but whereas my Jimny handled like it was on rails with the standard suspension in it, it handles more like a bigger 4wd drive now with the ome kit in it.
As for tyres, I just fitted BF Goodrich's 215/75/15's Mud Terrains to it. Am more than happy with them. Or the All Terrains are fine if you wanted to go less aggressive. Could'nt find many people that stocked the mud terrains in the size, but you're looking at around $260 a tyre, or $220 a tyre for the all terrains. Maxxis tyres are another option and they sell for just over $200 a tyre.

[Lockie666]

Rockhopper wrote:

Lockie666 wrote:

What ARB are you looking at getting the fitting done? IMHO I wouldn't get a OME lift for a jimny if you were looking to "lift" it they are just a stiffer spring than stock, you might get 40mm out of it. There are plenty of aftermarket lift-kits for jimnys out there if you are looking for lift for bigger tyres.

Think you may be a little off there mate. There is nothing 'stiff' about an ome 40mm kit. If anything, they are way softer than the standard suspension. I know, I have one fitted to mine. The kit is fine, flex's great, but whereas my Jimny handled like it was on rails with the standard suspension in it, it handles more like a bigger 4wd drive now with the ome kit in it.
As for tyres, I just fitted BF Goodrich's 215/75/15's Mud Terrains to it. Am more than happy with them. Or the All Terrains are fine if you wanted to go less aggressive. Could'nt find many people that stocked the mud terrains in the size, but you're looking at around $260 a tyre, or $220 a tyre for the all terrains. Maxxis tyres are another option and they sell for just over $200 a tyre.

I'm glad you feel that way about your suspension setup, I'm just saying from my experience in fitting the OME suspension to vehicles. I've been in jimnys with all different suspension kits and from what I can gather the OME kit seemed to be the stiffest. Pretty much all of the OME suspension setups are for more weight load, they aren't trying to lift your 4wd so you can have a max flexing comptruck.

I'm just saying all this because I used to work for ARB and thought that maybe my opinion would matter.

[Rockhopper]

Lockie666 wrote:

I'm glad you feel that way about your suspension setup, I'm just saying from my experience in fitting the OME suspension to vehicles. I've been in jimnys with all different suspension kits and from what I can gather the OME kit seemed to be the stiffest. Pretty much all of the OME suspension setups are for more weight load, they aren't trying to lift your 4wd so you can have a max flexing comptruck.

I'm just saying all this because I used to work for ARB and thought that maybe my opinion would matter.

Yep. I only have 24 years in the motor industry, so when I saw your post about the 40mm kit being the same as standard only they use stiffer springs, I thought I'd correct you, because it's simply not true.

The above picture depicts the differance between the OME and standard springs. As you can see the OME are a longer spring with more coils wound into them. Yes, I believe this might make them a little stiffer than the standard spring, but it is in no way a stiff suspension.

[Liljim]

I have to agree with rockhopper here, I had the OME 40mm kit and it was really soft, I changed to tough dog spring and I can't wait to get rid of them, they are way stiffer than the OME springs. They do sit more level though.

[Jord]

Hi all,

Yes there is alot of fine print with what can be done to the vehicle and what cant be. Luckily this has all been approved as they are not concerned with the manufacturers warranty.

the main reason im interested in the OME kit is simply because it has to come through one of the approved fitters, and ARB is one of them so why not get everything done in one place, plus with the extra weight of the Bull Bar and winch I think the 40mm lift (even though it is soft) is necessary.

Lockie666;

I have been going through the ARB canningvale store for all my dealing and I presume as all quotes and paperwork has come through them, the lease company will have it all fitted there also.

Going to start ringing around tomorrow for tires, and will be going 215/75 for sure! Im not sure if i want a mud terrain or A/T at this stage im thinking A/T as I will be mostly doing beach, and dirt/rock tracks, not so much into the whole mud scene, but that said, mud terrain can handle all terrians i throw at it...

thanks
Jordan

[Liljim]

With those mods, you'll have a very capable rig. Make sure you post a build thread!

[neofitou]

I think the tire selection for you should come down to how many Ks you do, ATs a cheaper and last much longer and usually better economy than MTs.
I had put >70,000 kms on my last set of KOs (33s) and they still went on club trips before I sold the car.

This was on my Pajero and I did trips of >7000km in one trip sometimes. I had KMs (not KM2s)on the sierra, in which I did much shorter harder trips.

Now Ive got shit Hankooks. They are shit.

[jimny_timmy]

Liljim wrote:

I have to agree with rockhopper here, I had the OME 40mm kit and it was really soft, I changed to tough dog spring and I can't wait to get rid of them, they are way stiffer than the OME springs. They do sit more level though.

X2... But with a bit of weight in the back added to the winch bar and winch in the front (the reason I ditched the OME and got the tough dog), it rides a shitload better!!!

But if you aren't fitting a bullbar, OME is deffo the way to go!!!

[Dr_Snapid]

Rockhopper wrote:

Lockie666 wrote:

As you can see the OME are a longer spring with more coils wound into them. Yes, I believe this might make them a little stiffer than the standard spring, but it is in no way a stiff suspension.

More winds makes the spring softer not harder (you are swinging off a longer bar)

My OME springs have sagged a little. I have a steel ARB bar but no winch so sag would be worse with a winch...

It is still fine though with 215/75 ATs and I have tried 235s and wont go back, the 215s are the go IMO

In my opinion you'll need a locker on your list...the jimny is a bit weak in the traction dept when twisted up, i have removed my swaybar which has helped a lot!

[Jord]

Yep she is getting front and rear lockers

[Dr_Snapid]

Just reread first post, sorry...

Are you going with a 2nd battery? Also check that the dealer puts the full size main battery in... many dealers put in a battery that's smaller than the tray. My battery is only 300cca but it's not filling the tray and I assume a larger one can fit. The battery guy told me that's pretty common with both new and used car dealers to scrimp on the battery!

[Jord]

did some ringing around, and think i have a pretty good price for the KO's, $265 ea this seems to be pretty much the standard price for these tires.

Jordan

[smiffkid]

Funny u say tough dog coils r stiff
Because my jimny with the 80 mm kits rocks around enough to lift a front sheen when takin off hard or swinging a sharp left hand bend:)
Much fun

[muds7ut]

225/70r15 spot on, would b roughly the same height as the 215/75r15. just gives u a little more width. big advantage wen dropping pressures.

[Wanderer]

I have a 2006 Jimny and have been very happy with with the ARB/OME 50mm shocks and coil set up, as it stopped the bum sagging with a load of gear in the back, and gave better ride on road and more confidence off road.
I will be up for new tyres soon, and because I tour more than blast around in mud I am considering Yokohama Geolanders AT/S, Toyo Open Country A/Ts or Maxxis MT-753 Bravo's. These tyres have close to standard diameters (70 series) so gear ratios are not overly affected. (Bravo Mt-753 are 75 series).
Had a quote a while back on the Maxxis MT 753 205/75r15 @ $185.
Maxxis MT 753 215/75R15@ 225.
Has any one tried these tyres?

[jimny_timmy]

muds7ut wrote:

225/70r15 spot on, would b roughly the same height as the 215/75r15. just gives u a little more width. big advantage wen dropping pressures.

While this is true, it's bloody hard finding an appropriate tyre that size!

[jordan]

i got 225/75/15 bridgestone's ( this tyre comes out standard on the rodeo's so i was able to get them cheap with 90% tread
i have no lift on my 08 jimny and other than a slight rub on extreem offroad bumps they at great

[muds7ut]

ill do some research for you tomorrow at work and see what size equvent i can come up with keeping the same rolling diamiter as the 215 but giving u more width. if ur not going mud. id strongly sugest the yokohama geo-12 all terrains.