[Samwich]

Just wondering,

Does anyone know if any shops like supercheap or Autobarn Sell a highlift jack mount to go on the spare wheel?????

I would rather go into a store and buy one then get it offline hahaha

Cheers,

[Gwagensteve]

You don't want one. Even if you think you do.

A) too much weight out too far. This is the case even with very strong rear bar tyre carriers like Kaymar (they get alarmingly "flappy" with a hilift on them) If you have a stock tyre mount on the tailgate, it will last minutes with a Hilift back there.

B) The foot of the hilift sits below the bottom edge of the tyre and therefore is vulnerable to being dragged on the ground. This might bend you tyre carrier, (or the jack) but if you are using the stock tyre mount, it will wreck your tailgate/back door.

C) The top of the jack will sit well above the height of the roof. The result is same as 'B' but caused by car parks/overhanging trees etc.

Steve.

PS, how useful do you think your hilift is? IMHO they are dumb and dangerous.

[Samwich]

Thanks for the feed back.

Any options For installing a Light? or aerial? Or am i better off getting one welded on

Sam

[got_bar_work]

My hi lift has saveed me heaps of time
Yes they are very very unstable and dangerous but if used right and ur car is set up for them they can help a lot
They suck to winch with
Hardest thing ever

[got_bar_work]

Dont know about swb but in my lwb the jack fits across behind my back seat on top of draws and straps inplace
It sitd under the lean of the backrest so it dont take up room when the fridge or boxes go in the back ontop of the draws

[got_bar_work]

Dont know about swb but in my lwb the jack fits across behind my back seat on top of draws and straps inplace
It sitd under the lean of the backrest so it dont take up room when the fridge or boxes go in the back ontop of the draws

[cairns27]

Gwagensteve,

My jack is bolted onto my bullbar,two 17mm bolts,spanner under drivers seat.I've got shit loads of recover gear I'd never use,It's the first and easiest I use.I strap it to lifting point, and throw some shit in the washout.I carry an airjack that I've never used.How do you guys change a wheel without a highlift jack?

bye

[zooky08]

dont get a flat in the first place, or use a normal car jack

[stewy91]

I would much rather a normal car jack its just plain dangerous using a highmount to change a wheel. They fall with the slightest bump

[Gwagensteve]

cairns27 wrote:

Gwagensteve,

My jack is bolted onto my bullbar,two 17mm bolts,spanner under drivers seat.I've got shit loads of recover gear I'd never use,It's the first and easiest I use.I strap it to lifting point, and throw some shit in the washout.I carry an airjack that I've never used.How do you guys change a wheel without a highlift jack?

bye

I never, ever, drive off road by myself so stacking stuff into ruts I've fallen into isn't required. 50% of our recoveries are done by pushing, most of the balance with a snatch strap.

If you have significant wheel travel, a Hilift isn't feasible for tyre changing as the car has to go too high on the jack to get a wheel off the ground, unless the axle is strapped to the chassis before you start the lift.

We use stock jacks for tyre changing. If required, we'll throw an ammo box under the car to give the jack enough range, or drive the car until the tyre we want is off the ground.

Lifting the body the whole range of suspension droop to get a tyre off the ground is dumb, and generally unsafe. It's more work than necessary and makes the car less stable than necessary.

I use my hilifts in the shed where the car is level and the wheels are chocked, and things can still get loose. Chaining the axle to the chassis when using a Hilift in the field is the ONLY safe way of using one, but this isn't easy with many cars, and might risk brake line damage etc.

As an aside, Hilifts are a complete PITA to mount anywhere and have a very poor weight/usefulness ratio in a suzuki, and I really struggle with that. I set one up in a mates sierra almost 20 years ago, and by stripping the whole thing down, we were able to put the rail across the inside of the tailgate after we cut about 50mm off the end of it, and the other stuff was distributed around inside the car.

If I needed a hilift type thing, I'd be getting one of these:

http://www.radflo.com/images/part_hydrajac.jpg

less than 1/2 the weight of the hilift and much faster to use.

Steve.

PS each to their own, but I'd never use a piece of recovery gear I would have to unbolt, and I'd rather be able to see track ahead rather than stare at a hilift.

[Gwagensteve]

Oh, and if the stock jack isn't long enough and using a block/ammo box etc is too hack, get a toyota bottle jack from a wrecker ( from an 80's/90's hilux, cruiser etc) these are fast, relatively light, and have a huge range of motion.



Steve

[sideways]

Gwagensteve wrote:

Oh, and if the stock jack isn't long enough and using a block/ammo box etc is too hack, get a toyota bottle jack from a wrecker ( from an 80's/90's hilux, cruiser etc) these are fast, relatively light, and have a huge range of motion.



Steve

I tried to jack up a HJ45 with one of those once.... Didn't work.

My Hi Lift bolts onto my spare wheel holder horizontally using the 2 top studs. Of course this means you can't run a spare.

I've taken my spare wheel holder off as the sheet metal (on the tub) around the hinges cracked after 2 weeks of having a heavy spare on there.

[Gwagensteve]

I've only had good experiences with those bottle jacks.

Steve.

[matty_wall]

I use a 80 series bottle jack, its an excellent jack. Its miles ahead of those shitty scissor jacks as well.

[jono165]

Yep, bottle jack is the way to go. XJ cherokees also have a very good one too, theres typically a few of these at the wreckers i go to, just chuck a block of wood or something underneath if the ground is a little soft.

[sideways]

I use a hydraulic one. As an added bonus it leaks oil and stops my floor from rusting.

[Scales]

i got a hilift and bottle jack (later)
ive only had the hilift on the back of the jim once or twice, and it does "flap" a fair bit more when you slam the door etc, so i use the spare bracket for a shovel holder instead, it was the main reason i bought it anyway.

I am keen to get the hilift on the car somehow but i think ill end up using a roof rack to achieve that aim. and until i get sliders the hilift is useless anyway.

[Joshyboy26]

i get 4 mates to lift the end of the car off the ground and stuff rocks logs etc under the diff. works great haha and i dont have to do any jacking. once your done just drive off it haha.