[bezzinaj]

Hi,

I have just bought a 1990 maruti gypsy MG410 in very good condition. However I an interested in changing the gearbox from 4 speed to 5 speed since I feel that the gear ratios are too low for everyday use. Can anyone suggest whether the MG413 5 speed gearbox fits with the 1000cc engine of the MG410. Does it need a flange or it just bolts on??

I appreciate any comments. Thanks

[sideways]

bezzinaj wrote:

Hi,

I have just bought a 1990 maruti gypsy MG410 in very good condition. However I an interested in changing the gearbox from 4 speed to 5 speed since I feel that the gear ratios are too low for everyday use. Can anyone suggest whether the MG413 5 speed gearbox fits with the 1000cc engine of the MG410. Does it need a flange or it just bolts on??

I appreciate any comments. Thanks

You cannot put the gearbox from a 1.3l into your Maruti, the bell housing patterns are different.

You can however drop the 5 speed gear set (all the gears, shafts ect) from a 1.3l (all are 5 speed) gearbox into your gearbox casing, thus creating a 5 speed gearbox the will bolt to a SOHC F series motor.

With the 5 speed, not only do you get a higher top gear (1:1 vs approx (they vary) 0.8:1) but also a lower 1st.

Thanks

Hayden

[neofitou]

Another thing to keep in mind is that its a good oppertunity to put in a completely different engine and gearbox combo rather than just the gearbox.
Also, simply stepping up to 215x75R15s from the stock tire will help raise the ratios a bit and dont need any modification (except maybe the front outriggers), and look and feel much better on the road.

I used to do thousands of Ks in my SWB, and always used to wish for the 5th gear. after about 15,000kms of highway in a 6 week period of me sitting on >100km/h for hours everyday the motor siezed on startup, I used the money from the contract to buy a newer car and gave the sierra away

It only had one straight panel (the bonnet) from a really good roll down a sand dune (3 rolls and a flip) and a dead engine, but it was still the worst car decision I ever made.. That is untill I practicallly gave away my ( $2k Heavily modified ) sierra that also had a dead engine and only 2 straight panels..(I had a spare engine, but was moving over here) and got a jeep. but I digress.

Anyway, my 2c is if your going to keep it stock, keep it stock.
If not do it properly and put in some power, people that do want to keep it stock will buy the 1l +gearbox (they are cheap bastards) to help offset the cost.

[2stroker]

Mate can you please put your location on your avatar. I have a 1litre 5 speed but no use in talking about it if you are in New Zealand or Germany.

[SierraDan]

He is in Malta. Bit far.. Haha

[bezzinaj]

thanks for your help. My location is Malta, I think very far away to most of you.

Hayden, so you are suggesting that I can 'take out' the 5 speed system from its casing and place it in the 4 speed casing of the MG410??

Haven't actually thought of it. Have you done something of the sort yourself?? Does the 5 speed system fit easily in the 4 speed casing or it will need some modifications in the 4 speed casing.

Thanks for all your replies.

[2stroker]

There is a step by step on the site, it is by Benchai who has done exactly that.