[Sco-tie]

Is it worth drilling the chassi to put in a rated recovery hook such as http://www.ebay.com.au/itm/220905539172 ... 1423.l2649

or what have others done other than use the tie town point for the front or a bull bar?

[fordem]

I took this picture from Shabz build thread - it's an EBC fitting - the thread suggests it may be on backwards.

[Sco-tie]

Yeah i had a look at that but cant find how much they are singularly it seems they only come when you buy the bull bar but surely they have them separatly. But im also not completly sold on the fact that it is mounted to the tie down point as the force would still be distributed onto the welds....so why not just use tie down points

[shabz]

Ask nicely and they might send you just the bits you want....thats what i did

Also here's my thoughts on it. It is only as strong as the standard hoop itself. The hoops normally bend upwards when used for snatching, and thats how the welds break. The top piece stops that bending. As a recovery point it may not be the best out there, but it does the job.

PS - I've never been snatched out of a really deep bog, just light recovery and its been fine. Just make sure you do up the bolts as tight as you can

[Sco-tie]

shabz wrote:

Ask nicely and they might send you just the bits you want....thats what i did

Also here's my thoughts on it. It is only as strong as the standard hoop itself. The hoops normally bend upwards when used for snatching, and thats how the welds break. The top piece stops that bending. As a recovery point it may not be the best out there, but it does the job.

PS - I've never been snatched out of a really deep bog, just light recovery and its been fine. Just make sure you do up the bolts as tight as you can

Im still not convinced on using the tie down as a full on recovery point, i think ill wait and do it properly and drill the chassie with rater bolts to be sure i'm attached to something thats not going to go bang!

So how hard is it to drill the chassie and is there anything i should be noting when drilling or where not to drill etc.?

[fordem]

If I were to make this statement in any other forum, I'd probably get flamed - but this is supposedly a "flame proof" forum so here goes (and hopefully I don't get banned myself) ...

Answer me these three questions ...

a) Who says that's a tie-down point?
b) What's a tie-down point used for?

The answer to question b is that it's used to tie the vehicle down when it's on a transporter - which leads to the third question ...

c) Why would there only be a single tie down point front & back - why not left & right sides, front & back?

Go back to the picture I posted of Shabz recovery point and look in the extreme right in line with the loop, you'll see two bolt heads and immediately below them, an oval hole, check your vehicle and see if you can find four of these oval holes, left & right, front & back, now check every other vehicle you can find, see how many of them have these oval holes, left & right, front & back?

Car transporters use chains with a fitting that engages with those oval holes and then rotates to lock into place.


I finally found what I was looking for the following is straight from my GV owner's manual

Suzuki calls them "frame hooks" and says ...

Do not use the frame hooks to tow another vehicle or to have your vehicle towed on the road or highway.
The hooks are designed for use in emergency situations only, such as if your vehicle or another vehicle gets stuck in deep mud or snow.

[Sco-tie]

Do not use the frame hooks to tow another vehicle or to have your vehicle towed on the road or highway.
The hooks are designed for use in emergency situations only, such as if your vehicle or another vehicle gets stuck in deep mud or snow.

Those 2 seem to contradict each other, you'd think that towing and recoverything would be fairly similar in use lol

All in all id like to get an answer for the original question on how hard is it to drill the chassie and is there anything i should be noting when drilling or where not to drill etc.?

[fordem]

Sco-tie wrote:

Those 2 seem to contradict each other, you'd think that towing and recoverything would be fairly similar in use lol

Yup - I agree with you to some extent - some recoveries will require a lot more force than a tow. I'm just quoting the owner's manual, and the reason for that was to establish - as they say, beyond reasonable doubt - that Suzuki did not intend them to be used as tie-down points, which is what every body and their brother seems to calls them.

I'm not certain that I would use them for snatch recovery, but I have used them (at least the rear one on my GV) for both recovery and on-road towing.