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buzbox
Joined: Thu Jul 16, 2009 11:30 pm Posts: 3600 Location: Wollongong NSW
Vehicle: LWB Sierra & XL7
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 Posted: Sun Aug 12, 2012 5:39 pm |
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Well that sucks... Is the first thing I said when a head bolt had rounded. And of course, It's the last one I need to take off before removing the head and take the block in to get worked on.
I don't think Easy outs would be the answer for this one, I don't think a larger sized hex driver bashed in place would work either, It's waay to tight for the grinder, A bolt welded to it wouldn't be strong enough to remove it.
The only thing I can think of it drill out the head of the bolt, Or take it into the engine reco guy's and say, here you go.
Any ideas?
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JrZook
Joined: Tue Aug 08, 2006 11:30 pm Posts: 5517 Location: Holland Park
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Had one like that. Ended up just drilling the head off.
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shep
Joined: Thu Mar 29, 2007 11:30 pm Posts: 14498 Location: Here there everywhere
Vehicle: A manly awesome man jimny
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 Posted: Sun Aug 12, 2012 5:48 pm |
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Use a single hex socket.
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buzbox
Joined: Thu Jul 16, 2009 11:30 pm Posts: 3600 Location: Wollongong NSW
Vehicle: LWB Sierra & XL7
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shep wrote: Use a single hex socket. Yep that's what I have and used, but no luck, It's well rounded.
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ball

I live here!
Joined: Wed Oct 22, 2008 10:30 pm Posts: 4673 Location: Katherine
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get a big nut (7/8 or 1 inch) and bash it over the rounded head. Weld nut to bolt and let cool completely before trying to remove.
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atari4x4

az supporter
Joined: Mon Dec 11, 2006 10:30 pm Posts: 34842 Location: East Radelayed
Vehicle: SV420+SV620 Vitara's
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Built4thrashing
Joined: Wed May 21, 2008 11:30 pm Posts: 4972 Location: Dandenong .Vic
Vehicle: 1999 GV. Locked and Lifted
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atari4x4

az supporter
Joined: Mon Dec 11, 2006 10:30 pm Posts: 34842 Location: East Radelayed
Vehicle: SV420+SV620 Vitara's
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i've seen them work on the most rooted bolt head you could imagine, a good option if you don't have easy access to a welder to give balls technique a go. 
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superduki
Joined: Thu Nov 05, 2009 10:30 pm Posts: 466 Location: Tasmania
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atari4x4 wrote: i've seen them work on the most rooted bolt head you could imagine, a good option if you don't have easy access to a welder to give balls technique a go.  Yep we use the Irwin brand ones at work all the time. Works 9/10 times. Still amazes me how they grip so well!
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Joe

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Joined: Sat Jul 04, 2009 11:30 pm Posts: 49041 Location: Rockingham W.A
Vehicle: JB74
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atari4x4 wrote: i've seen them work on the most rooted bolt head you could imagine, a good option if you don't have easy access to a welder to give balls technique a go.  Pretty sure Ninjamoses used one of them on the motor he was pulling down and it worked for him
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KEENSY85
Joined: Wed May 09, 2012 12:46 am Posts: 1742 Location: north brisbane
Vehicle: 1985 lwb sierra UTE
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atari4x4 wrote:  nice
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royce

omnipotent being
Joined: Sun Jun 11, 2006 11:30 pm Posts: 17216 Location: Pluto
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The socket head bolts? get something sharp in and clean all the shit out of it and youll get some fresh hex to work on, bash the bit in with a hammer
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ninjamoses

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Joined: Mon Aug 13, 2007 11:30 pm Posts: 1787 Location: Butler, WA
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atari4x4 wrote: i've seen them work on the most rooted bolt head you could imagine, a good option if you don't have easy access to a welder to give balls technique a go. x50000000 Joe wrote: Pretty sure Ninjamoses used one of them on the motor he was pulling down and it worked for him Certainly did, was in the same situation as you buzbox. Last head bolt refused to budge even with a single hex impact socket etc. Irwell bolt grip in a rattle gun had it off in 2 seconds flat. Almost laughable how easy it was. Got mine from bunnings, think the 5 pack goes for about $50. I've been meaning to go buy the second half of them so I have the full set as they are that awesome.
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buzbox
Joined: Thu Jul 16, 2009 11:30 pm Posts: 3600 Location: Wollongong NSW
Vehicle: LWB Sierra & XL7
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thanks heaps guys.
I'm sure bunnings won't stock them, but I'll pop out to my faviroute specialised tool shop in my lunch break, If that doesn't work I'll definitly give it the balls technique.
At least it's something Ii'll most probably use again.
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atari4x4

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Joined: Mon Dec 11, 2006 10:30 pm Posts: 34842 Location: East Radelayed
Vehicle: SV420+SV620 Vitara's
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my 2 local bunnings stock them.
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Scales

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Joined: Mon May 30, 2011 9:28 am Posts: 2233 Location: Townsville
Vehicle: 03 Jim M13A no-vvt, Vinyl Spec
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i got a set of irwans too, best sockets ever! bought the "base" set from mitre 10, and ordered the add-on pack from amazon.com after i discovered how awesome they are. (the whole set is in 2 different packs, as you can see in the pic with the case, the cardboard bit comes out with room for another 5 sockets)
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jdk81
Joined: Sat Jul 18, 2009 11:30 pm Posts: 2372 Location: Ballarat, VIC
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defibros
Joined: Thu Jan 12, 2012 1:00 am Posts: 99 Location: perth
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Any tools or ways to remove a rounded front diff nut?
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abclarke
Joined: Mon Feb 14, 2011 8:19 am Posts: 1966 Location: Couridjah
Vehicle: 1985 Holden Drover
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You talking about the plugs?
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defibros
Joined: Thu Jan 12, 2012 1:00 am Posts: 99 Location: perth
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Yeah my front diff drain plug is rounded . Any tips ? abclarke wrote: You talking about the plugs?
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Zook_Fan

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Joined: Thu Mar 13, 2008 10:30 pm Posts: 4531 Location: Toowoomba
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Before you attack the drain plug get the fill plug out first. Not being able to drain the diff can be a pain, not being able to fill it means the car is stationary. The fill plug you pretty much have to weld a nut too. You don't have much option because there is nothing to grip.
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defibros
Joined: Thu Jan 12, 2012 1:00 am Posts: 99 Location: perth
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Thanks for the tips . I don't have much options do I  Zook_Fan wrote: Before you attack the drain plug get the fill plug out first. Not being able to drain the diff can be a pain, not being able to fill it means the car is stationary. The fill plug you pretty much have to weld a nut too. You don't have much option because there is nothing to grip.
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zukmeista
Joined: Sun Mar 22, 2009 10:30 pm Posts: 1273 Location: Whangarei,N.Z.
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buzbox
Joined: Thu Jul 16, 2009 11:30 pm Posts: 3600 Location: Wollongong NSW
Vehicle: LWB Sierra & XL7
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defibros wrote: Yeah my front diff drain plug is rounded . Any tips ? abclarke wrote: You talking about the plugs? The thing I would do is drill a hole and use an easy out. I've tried the chisel technique on a diff plug before without good results. Also I bought those threaded bolt sockets, It gripped quite well but it just couldn't quite shift the head bolt (or I was being too lenient) So I just took it into the engine reco place for them to deal with before I did more damage. 
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sando

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Joined: Thu Jan 20, 2011 6:52 am Posts: 198 Location: Ipswich
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defibros wrote: Yeah my front diff drain plug is rounded . Any tips ? abclarke wrote: You talking about the plugs? As already stated make sure you can get the fill open. With the drain buy a new plug as the one in there will be stuffed. I presume your drain requires a 3/8drive extension to undo it? If it does then go to supercrap and buy a crappy short extension. If you are good with a welder then weld the extension in, allow for it to fully cool then get a ratchet and undo it. The heat from the weld will loosen it.
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atari4x4

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Joined: Mon Dec 11, 2006 10:30 pm Posts: 34842 Location: East Radelayed
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sando wrote: defibros wrote: Yeah my front diff drain plug is rounded . Any tips ? abclarke wrote: You talking about the plugs? As already stated make sure you can get the fill open. With the drain buy a new plug as the one in there will be stuffed. I presume your drain requires a 10mm square drive to undo it? If it does then go to supercrap and buy a crappy short extension. If you are good with a welder then weld the extension in, allow for it to fully cool then get a ratchet and undo it. The heat from the weld will loosen it. fixed... using a 3/8th drive in the drain plug is why it's been rounded out
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TheOtherLeft
Joined: Sun Aug 27, 2006 11:30 pm Posts: 818 Location: Sydney
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buzbox wrote: defibros wrote: Yeah my front diff drain plug is rounded . Any tips ? abclarke wrote: You talking about the plugs? The thing I would do is drill a hole and use an easy out. I've tried the chisel technique on a diff plug before without good results. Also I bought those threaded bolt sockets, It gripped quite well but it just couldn't quite shift the head bolt (or I was being too lenient) So I just took it into the engine reco place for them to deal with before I did more damage.  This might work for diff plugs: http://www.irwin.com/tools/screw-bolt-extractors/hex-head-multi-spline-screw-extractors-522532-series
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