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Stuey

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Joined: Sat Feb 02, 2008 10:30 pm Posts: 621 Location: Perth, WA
Vehicle: 97 SV420/627 SWB Vitara
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 Posted: Tue Aug 28, 2012 12:54 pm |
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As the topic says, need a quick bit of feedback from those in the know as to the best size exhaust for a H27A?
Quoted $850 for non mandrel, 2 1/4 steel. Seems a bit high $ wise....
(Sorry, don't have time to search forum).
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atari4x4

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Joined: Mon Dec 11, 2006 10:30 pm Posts: 34842 Location: East Radelayed
Vehicle: SV420+SV620 Vitara's
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 Posted: Tue Aug 28, 2012 1:01 pm |
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i ran 2 1/4" press bend mild steel on my j20a, was probably over kill but with it not being mandrel bent the section over the diff would have been around 2"
is that new cat & muffler included?
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Stuey

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Joined: Sat Feb 02, 2008 10:30 pm Posts: 621 Location: Perth, WA
Vehicle: 97 SV420/627 SWB Vitara
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 Posted: Tue Aug 28, 2012 1:09 pm |
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New muffler and hi flow cat included. I'm wondering if 2 1/4 is enough or maybe I should go 2 1/2?
The car is still drive able now as they've hooked it up to my old exhaust so I can take it and shop around. I've only ever had one cat back system fitted to an old car of mine so I'm not really fluent in all things exhaust....
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atari4x4

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Joined: Mon Dec 11, 2006 10:30 pm Posts: 34842 Location: East Radelayed
Vehicle: SV420+SV620 Vitara's
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 Posted: Tue Aug 28, 2012 1:22 pm |
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not sure on that one... maybe have a chat to a few different places & see what they recommend regarding size.
also if you are going to body lift it, you will have a lot more room to tuck the pipe/muffler well above the chassis rail.
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MacDaddy

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Joined: Thu Mar 26, 2009 10:30 pm Posts: 10453 Location: Perth, Australia
Vehicle: Jeep
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 Posted: Tue Aug 28, 2012 1:26 pm |
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Because its a SWB, the exhaust length wont be very long, i would go with 2.25in, as 2.5in may be to big, for such a short run... i had just 2in on my GV with H25A to start with, but it felt to restricted, even though it was all high flow, but i got 2.25in put in recently, with hiflo cat and muffler, works awesome now ! 
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buzbox
Joined: Thu Jul 16, 2009 11:30 pm Posts: 3600 Location: Wollongong NSW
Vehicle: LWB Sierra & XL7
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 Posted: Tue Aug 28, 2012 1:39 pm |
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Just as my own general rule. < 2.0L = 2" > 2.0L = 2.5" turbo = 3" w/screamer pipe 
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Stuey

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Joined: Sat Feb 02, 2008 10:30 pm Posts: 621 Location: Perth, WA
Vehicle: 97 SV420/627 SWB Vitara
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 Posted: Tue Aug 28, 2012 2:23 pm |
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Thanks for the feedback lads. 
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d1mitch
Joined: Fri Feb 03, 2012 1:35 pm Posts: 58
Vehicle: multiple R32's, wtd sierra
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 Posted: Tue Aug 28, 2012 4:29 pm |
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buzbox wrote: Just as my own general rule. turbo = 3" w/screamer pipe  all depends how big your tubo is 3" can be even too restrictive on bigger hp setups in relation to the op 2.5" i think would suit a 2.7L better
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bigrig91
Joined: Mon May 11, 2009 11:30 pm Posts: 1308 Location: Redcliffe
Vehicle: 96 LWB Vit, 2.5L powerhouse
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 Posted: Tue Aug 28, 2012 4:59 pm |
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I got a 2 1/4 with new cat and muffler for 450 so yes your being ripped. Sounds mint though.
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Joe

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Joined: Sat Jul 04, 2009 11:30 pm Posts: 49041 Location: Rockingham W.A
Vehicle: JB74
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 Posted: Tue Aug 28, 2012 6:37 pm |
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Hey Stuey i can put you on to my exhaust guy if ya like  he's in Portkennady though
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Stuey

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Joined: Sat Feb 02, 2008 10:30 pm Posts: 621 Location: Perth, WA
Vehicle: 97 SV420/627 SWB Vitara
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 Posted: Tue Aug 28, 2012 7:46 pm |
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Joe wrote: Hey Stuey i can put you on to my exhaust guy if ya like  he's in Portkennady though Wouldn't happen to be "Sound Exhausts" by chance Joe?
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ninjamoses

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Joined: Mon Aug 13, 2007 11:30 pm Posts: 1787 Location: Butler, WA
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 Posted: Tue Aug 28, 2012 7:52 pm |
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Try Mettams Mufflers in Morley mate. I got a 2.25 inch with new muffler & hi flow cat on the old SV for ~$500. I'll be going there again for to get the GV done as soon as I've got it running. Think I'll be going 2.5" press bent this time round.
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Stuey

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Joined: Sat Feb 02, 2008 10:30 pm Posts: 621 Location: Perth, WA
Vehicle: 97 SV420/627 SWB Vitara
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 Posted: Tue Aug 28, 2012 8:13 pm |
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ninjamoses wrote: Try Mettams Mufflers in Morley mate. I got a 2.25 inch with new muffler & hi flow cat on the old SV for ~$500. I'll be going there again for to get the GV done as soon as I've got it running. Think I'll be going 2.5" press bent this time round. Thanks for the lead Moses. I'll keep them in mind.  Was the SV system mandrel or press? I remember reading in your build that you thought it made a huge difference, bringing back a useable 5th gear.
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Joe

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 Posted: Tue Aug 28, 2012 8:26 pm |
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Stuey wrote: Joe wrote: Hey Stuey i can put you on to my exhaust guy if ya like  he's in Portkennady though Wouldn't happen to be "Sound Exhausts" by chance Joe? Sure is the bloke is a champ, I've had four or five cars done there now
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ninjamoses

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Joined: Mon Aug 13, 2007 11:30 pm Posts: 1787 Location: Butler, WA
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SV system was press bent as well mate. They are a couple of hundred metres from the Galleria so easy to waste an hour or two while you wait. I'd called quite a few exhaust shops north of the river prior to going to them and most were up in the $800 - $1200 range.
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Stuey

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Joined: Sat Feb 02, 2008 10:30 pm Posts: 621 Location: Perth, WA
Vehicle: 97 SV420/627 SWB Vitara
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 Posted: Tue Aug 28, 2012 8:49 pm |
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Joe wrote: Stuey wrote: Joe wrote: Hey Stuey i can put you on to my exhaust guy if ya like  he's in Portkennady though Wouldn't happen to be "Sound Exhausts" by chance Joe? Sure is the bloke is a champ, I've had four or five cars done there now I've been recommended him before too by my neighbour. When I was looking into getting and exhaust for the 4 banger he quoted $480 for extractors, $280 for a 2" system in mild or $450 in stainless. Thought that was very reasonable.
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shandy92

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Joined: Tue Nov 25, 2008 10:30 pm Posts: 5066 Location: perth, Australia
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 Posted: Thu Aug 30, 2012 11:31 pm |
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mate, since the car is in midland go around the corner to 'midland exhaust center' ( http://www.yellowpages.com.au/wa/midlan ... sting.html ) and get a quote from him, its the shop suzistore use. i got a quote from him for a 2" cat back system with a high flow cat and muffler for $450. Went to mettams mufflers in morley and they wanted $500 (got a really dodgy impression).
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MacDaddy

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Joined: Thu Mar 26, 2009 10:30 pm Posts: 10453 Location: Perth, Australia
Vehicle: Jeep
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 Posted: Fri Aug 31, 2012 2:01 am |
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I happen to park next to an stock XL7 today, so i compared exhaust sizes, the XL7 was exactly the same size as mine, 2.25in... 
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Stuey

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Joined: Sat Feb 02, 2008 10:30 pm Posts: 621 Location: Perth, WA
Vehicle: 97 SV420/627 SWB Vitara
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 Posted: Fri Aug 31, 2012 7:50 am |
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shandy92 wrote: mate, since the car is in midland go around the corner to 'midland exhaust center' ( http://www.yellowpages.com.au/wa/midlan ... sting.html ) and get a quote from him, its the shop suzistore use. i got a quote from him for a 2" cat back system with a high flow cat and muffler for $450. Went to mettams mufflers in morley and they wanted $500 (got a really dodgy impression). The price of $850 in my original quote came from Midland Exhaust Centre. Thats why I've told Suzistore not to do it there and I'll shop around. Getting a quite from Joes exhaust man today in Port Kennedy. And thanks Mark, I'll keep your findings of 2 1/4" in mind.
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Joe

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Joined: Sat Jul 04, 2009 11:30 pm Posts: 49041 Location: Rockingham W.A
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Stuey wrote: shandy92 wrote: mate, since the car is in midland go around the corner to 'midland exhaust center' ( http://www.yellowpages.com.au/wa/midlan ... sting.html ) and get a quote from him, its the shop suzistore use. i got a quote from him for a 2" cat back system with a high flow cat and muffler for $450. Went to mettams mufflers in morley and they wanted $500 (got a really dodgy impression). The price of $850 in my original quote came from Midland Exhaust Centre. Thats why I've told Suzistore not to do it there and I'll shop around. Getting a quite from Joes exhaust man today in Port Kennedy. And thanks Mark, I'll keep your findings of 2 1/4" in mind. How'd ya go?
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Stuey

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Joined: Sat Feb 02, 2008 10:30 pm Posts: 621 Location: Perth, WA
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 Posted: Sat Sep 01, 2012 2:35 pm |
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Joe wrote: How'd ya go? I didn't realise they shut early on a Friday so I'll head down on Monday or Tuesday. Suzistore have said the car should be ready early next week.
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Joe

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Stuey wrote: Joe wrote: How'd ya go? I didn't realise they shut early on a Friday so I'll head down on Monday or Tuesday. Suzistore have said the car should be ready early next week. He is only a one man show (that's why is cheaper cause he has no wages to pay out) so if he has no work in he leaves at about four
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mad2lvit
Joined: Wed May 09, 2012 11:12 pm Posts: 34
Vehicle: stock sv420g tara for now :)
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 Posted: Sun Sep 02, 2012 4:17 pm |
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i got a extractors and two and a quarter inch press bent system on my j20a and its perfect, loads more torque around the 2000-4000rpm range i reckon 2.25 mandrel bent system or 2.5 press bent would be spot on
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b1nelly
Joined: Mon Apr 01, 2013 10:48 pm Posts: 33
Vehicle: 2007, GV, trekker
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 Posted: Mon Apr 01, 2013 10:53 pm |
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Howdy mate. Howd you go with the system.
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Stuey

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Joined: Sat Feb 02, 2008 10:30 pm Posts: 621 Location: Perth, WA
Vehicle: 97 SV420/627 SWB Vitara
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 Posted: Tue Apr 02, 2013 10:15 am |
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System works well. I did however have to go back and fit a hot dog (resonator) in the system as well because it was very loud (near on small v8 supercar loud, at least it seemed to be to my poor bleeding ears in the cabin)  The resonator has smoothed the tone and made it more bearable at highway speeds. Torque, engine breathing etc all spot on.
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b1nelly
Joined: Mon Apr 01, 2013 10:48 pm Posts: 33
Vehicle: 2007, GV, trekker
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 Posted: Tue Apr 02, 2013 3:46 pm |
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Sweet. Awesome news. Might be looking into this for my new car. Will see.
Thanks for the feedback
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