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Post Posted: Sat Sep 01, 2012 7:35 pm 
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I am about to go through the process of nt'n my wt diffs but not sure where i want to mount the spring perches
Currently have a 2 inch suspension lift but trying to decide if i want to do spring over axle or just the normal spring under
Is or are there any advantages/disadvantages other than the extra lift

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Post Posted: Sat Sep 01, 2012 10:51 pm 
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THAT IS THE QUESTION


stay spua

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Post Posted: Sun Sep 02, 2012 3:02 am 
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Go spoa works very well I wish I did it ages ago but people convinced me not to spua works well but got to a point where I wanted more and couldn't do anything elce unless I spoa it depends on how far you want to go /money you want to spend and if you plan on keeping it for ages

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Post Posted: Sun Sep 02, 2012 8:01 am 
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By doing spoa does it need wrap bars, high steer etc
I assume that spoa nd 2 inch suspension lift will be the equivalent of spoa nd 2 inch body just the chassis will be higher
Or am i better off doin spua and 2 inch extended shackles
Planning on keeping it for a while as its a project car nd almost completed 1.3 conversion
Want to run maybe 32"s with cromos nd reduction gears

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Post Posted: Sun Sep 02, 2012 8:34 am 
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You will need wrap bars and high steer yes, among other things and a bunch of work.

2" suspension and SPOA is about 5-7" of lift, depending on springs and your perches. (Which is ridiculously high and unnecessary)

You're better off SPUA, 2" suspension, RUF in my opinion..



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spua works well but got to a point where I wanted more and couldn't do anything elce unless I spoa

I wouldn't listen to this guy.

I would compare my 2" lift and RUF, twin locked and geared to a locked and geared Patrol, Hilux or Rodeo on 37's. The thing that let me down most was wheelbase, and SPOA will only make that worse.



EDIT: for now, get your 1.3 in, SPUA with WT diffs and learn how to drive in it.

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Post Posted: Sun Sep 02, 2012 9:01 am 
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i'd be taking advice from ^^^ this guy.

NFI where the mid north coast is but if it's near newy etc but i'd be looking at other peoples set ups local to your area for an idea that works.

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Post Posted: Sun Sep 02, 2012 9:10 am 
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For 32's, Stay Spua.

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Post Posted: Sun Sep 02, 2012 9:18 am 
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go spoa
I want to see all the cool upside dowm photos of of your car

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Post Posted: Sun Sep 02, 2012 11:35 am 
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To spoa properly is a lot harder than you think. For the time and money spent doing it (properly) you would be better off coiling your car.

If you're trying to achieve a capable, stable car that works well, spua with ruf is the way to go. Have a look through some of the build threads to see what people are doing.

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Post Posted: Sun Sep 02, 2012 4:07 pm 
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Thanks for the advise
From what it sounds like ill stay away from doin a spoa nd just have 2" suspension lift with 2" extended shackles

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Post Posted: Sun Sep 02, 2012 4:25 pm 
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Why do you need the extended shackles? How are you going to correct the caster on the front end? Are you running modified shock mounts to allow the extra travel possible with extended shackles?

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Post Posted: Sun Sep 02, 2012 4:30 pm 
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Unless you are going to use a longer than typical spring, or moving spring mounts I wouldn't bother with extended shackles, they're not particularly useful.

This thread is worth having a look at.

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Post Posted: Sun Sep 02, 2012 4:34 pm 
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End of the day if you want and awesome car, buy a jimny. That's something we can all agree on.

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Post Posted: Sun Sep 02, 2012 5:37 pm 
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i did it and rolled it its so unstable so im going back under now. but it looks good

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Post Posted: Mon Sep 03, 2012 6:51 am 
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I just wanna lift it but not rediculusly
2" is good but id like just that bit more so i can have a bit mire belly clearance so i thought 2" extended shackles would give that extra height

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Post Posted: Mon Sep 03, 2012 8:18 am 
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31zook wrote:
End of the day if you want and awesome car, buy a jimny. That's something we can all agree on.


it will only be cool if he has your mad fab skills, other wise its a buthurt wobble car!

mate keep it spua it works better! more options and at the end of the day the cops are going to leave you alone! plus COG is lower and you wheel lift
over everything instead of rolling over everything.

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Post Posted: Mon Sep 03, 2012 8:42 am 
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why not some efs 65mm lift springs and ruf at the same time
thats what i did it flex's really well

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Post Posted: Mon Sep 03, 2012 9:00 am 
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spua. i had 2 inch springs and 35mm body lift running 33x10.5s not a drama. was nice low and stable.

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Post Posted: Tue Sep 04, 2012 9:32 pm 
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Belly clearance is so much better SPOA with flat springs. Used to get stuck on rocks under the belly, now it just drives over everything. Did NT with WT diffs with RUF and Missing Links front, drove it on the road, Went "Jesus Christ this is shit". It was easily the worst thing ever.
Drove it over some rocks and trees and down ditches and through ruts and all sorts of crap, Went "Holy shit this is the guts".

SPOA needs extra work, lots of it, to make it even decent if you plan to drive it on the road.

If you go SPOA I cannot stress the difference a panhard makes. Went from undriveable on the road to something I can let other people drive.
Even Subaru drivers.

Anyone want to let me drive a decent SPUA rig? I drive like a dick and have no skills except finding the deepest hole.
You can have a go of Pikachu too if you want. You will hate yourself for liking a rotary though.

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Post Posted: Wed Sep 05, 2012 2:33 pm 
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Plan is to stay away from spoa nd just use lift springs
And whats wrong with suby drivers

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Post Posted: Wed Sep 05, 2012 2:58 pm 
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I should spua my sub

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Post Posted: Wed Sep 05, 2012 4:42 pm 
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BlueSuzy wrote:
I should spua my sub



I heard making the Z-link is a bitch though

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Post Posted: Wed Sep 05, 2012 5:52 pm 
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Subaru Drivers are the new Volvo drivers.

Next time you see a car parked so crooked you can't park next to it. Look at it.

It will be a Subaru.

My wife has one.

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Post Posted: Wed Sep 05, 2012 7:14 pm 
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Thats just a Canberanian thing.

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Post Posted: Wed Sep 05, 2012 8:57 pm 
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ajsr's rig is spua and 36s, gregc's rig is big 35s spua, gwagens is 35s and low (previously spua) . i havent seen ajsrs in the flesh but i have seen gregc's and gwagens and theyre pretty cool.

its well documented you dont need lift to fit tyres so whats the point.
i have rolled mine on 32s spua, i feel like its too tall haha

why the fuck would you want a tall spooky ghey looking car. :rambo:

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