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Verm1n
Joined: Tue Oct 28, 2008 10:30 pm Posts: 1395 Location: Ipswich
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 Posted: Wed Sep 05, 2012 7:11 pm |
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has anyone had PROBLEMS fitting it?? after trying to fit the 'NEWEST AND IMPROVED' ARB airlocker for a rear 3.9 centre of a sierra we had a huge problem when the locker/crown wheel spun and there was .25mm gap nearly hitting the internal of the housing bearing caps... 'I think that made sense....'   pics explaining.. after seeing a few people, Supa slim took it ARB to ask about it... To fix the problem they 'machine' the inside of the housing to fit the airlocker??? $175 later to fit it to the centre it's done... WTF... why change something that worked perfectly fine.. and then cause more problems trying to get it too fit???
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Highway-Star
Joined: Thu Apr 30, 2009 11:30 pm Posts: 4109 Location: Ipswich
Vehicle: LJ80V-II (a proper Stockman)
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Posted: Wed Sep 05, 2012 7:27 pm |
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Verm1n wrote: To fix the problem they 'machine' the inside of the housing to fit the airlocker???
$175 later to fit it to the centre it's done... Is this what he ended up getting done?
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kristov
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Joined: Wed Oct 12, 2011 8:47 pm Posts: 347 Location: Bunbury, WA
Vehicle: 2011 jimny
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Posted: Wed Sep 05, 2012 7:48 pm |
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i notice they released a new rear locker rd208 instead of the rd88 what are the significant differences?
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reeceh
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Joined: Thu Apr 29, 2010 8:45 am Posts: 1230 Location: Brisbane
Vehicle: 91 sierra, g16b,lift,30's
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Posted: Wed Sep 05, 2012 8:02 pm |
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Im no diff man. I like boxes ( lol). But is it because maybe they bulked it up for more strength ( wild stab in the dark)
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Joe
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Joined: Sat Jul 04, 2009 11:30 pm Posts: 49041 Location: Rockingham W.A
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Posted: Wed Sep 05, 2012 8:50 pm |
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I put a RD208 in the front of my old vit (the same as a sierra rear) and didn't have to machine anything 
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Verm1n
Joined: Tue Oct 28, 2008 10:30 pm Posts: 1395 Location: Ipswich
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Posted: Wed Sep 05, 2012 9:06 pm |
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Highway-Star wrote: Verm1n wrote: To fix the problem they 'machine' the inside of the housing to fit the airlocker???
$175 later to fit it to the centre it's done... Is this what he ended up getting done? yea thats what he got done.. would have been nice to get a pic of it done and seen the gap..  kristov wrote: i notice they released a new rear locker rd208 instead of the rd88 what are the significant differences? Im not overly sure as I don't work at ARB but.. the locker carrier is muchly larger in size.. I have one of the earlier rd88.. soo there was alot different to mine .. reeceh wrote: Im no diff man. I like boxes ( lol). But is it because maybe they bulked it up for more strength ( wild stab in the dark) pretty sure thats why they have done it.. Just another way to make money... sell people parts which most people can't fit at home.. and will cost them more $$$ to get it fit... another perfect example.. the new iphone 5.. why change the fucking charger to a 9 pin instead of leaving it as the classic ipod style.. now everyone will have to buy new charger docks, blue tooth devices etc.. or an adaptor cord
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stockman
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Joined: Thu Nov 05, 2009 10:30 pm Posts: 5319 Location: Canberra
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Posted: Wed Sep 05, 2012 9:18 pm |
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Verm1n wrote: another perfect example.. the new iphone 5.. why change the fucking charger to a 9 pin instead of leaving it as the classic ipod style..
now everyone will have to buy new charger docks, blue tooth devices etc.. or an adaptor cord Are you sure about this?
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abclarke
Joined: Mon Feb 14, 2011 8:19 am Posts: 1966 Location: Couridjah
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Posted: Wed Sep 05, 2012 9:19 pm |
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stockman wrote: Verm1n wrote: another perfect example.. the new iphone 5.. why change the fucking charger to a 9 pin instead of leaving it as the classic ipod style..
now everyone will have to buy new charger docks, blue tooth devices etc.. or an adaptor cord Are you sure about this? Rumor.
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stockman
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Joined: Thu Nov 05, 2009 10:30 pm Posts: 5319 Location: Canberra
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Posted: Wed Sep 05, 2012 9:22 pm |
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abclarke wrote: stockman wrote: Verm1n wrote: another perfect example.. the new iphone 5.. why change the fucking charger to a 9 pin instead of leaving it as the classic ipod style..
now everyone will have to buy new charger docks, blue tooth devices etc.. or an adaptor cord Are you sure about this? Rumor. Ah ok. I guess if it happens there will be some sort of adapter.
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kristov
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Joined: Wed Oct 12, 2011 8:47 pm Posts: 347 Location: Bunbury, WA
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Posted: Wed Sep 05, 2012 9:23 pm |
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knowing apple, they probably will . ive got a macbook pro and ive broken 4 chargers since ive owns and they arnt cheap at 90$........ never apple again 
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fordem
Joined: Mon Apr 19, 2010 11:30 pm Posts: 2656 Location: Georgetown, Guyana
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Posted: Thu Sep 06, 2012 3:01 am |
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kristov wrote: i notice they released a new rear locker rd208 instead of the rd88 what are the significant differences? I think the biggest change was that they "flipped" the mechanism around so they could get rid of the plastic piston that kept breaking - it also supposedly includes stronger, "timed" gears.
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3cyl
Joined: Tue Jan 29, 2008 10:30 pm Posts: 2054 Location: Ipswich
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Posted: Thu Sep 06, 2012 5:14 am |
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Joe wrote: I put a RD208 in the front of my old vit (the same as a sierra rear) and didn't have to machine anything The crownwheel flange side is much beefier and the locker itself looks stronger, only bad thing is where the airline goes past the crownwheel. I reckon with 5.12 gears it would go straight in but no good with 3.9s. Hope they pulled the pinion out when they machined the pinion housing and washed it good.
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supa_slim
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Joined: Mon Jan 31, 2011 9:15 am Posts: 444 Location: Redbank Plains
Vehicle: 85.Ruf. rear air locker
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Posted: Thu Sep 06, 2012 7:09 am |
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They washed it good 3cyl and it came up nice
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zooky08
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Joined: Fri Nov 27, 2009 10:30 pm Posts: 3426 Location: imbil/gympie. qld
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Posted: Thu Sep 06, 2012 7:22 am |
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Since they flipped it, the seal housing air line has to run across the crown wheel.
I have the new rd206 in my jimny and im alway having problems with it. Ive had the old rd88 for 2.5 yrs and never had a problem yet.
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Verm1n
Joined: Tue Oct 28, 2008 10:30 pm Posts: 1395 Location: Ipswich
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Posted: Thu Sep 06, 2012 4:42 pm |
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stockman wrote: abclarke wrote: stockman wrote: Verm1n wrote: another perfect example.. the new iphone 5.. why change the fucking charger to a 9 pin instead of leaving it as the classic ipod style..
now everyone will have to buy new charger docks, blue tooth devices etc.. or an adaptor cord Are you sure about this? Rumor. Ah ok. I guess if it happens there will be some sort of adapter. yea Rumor... find out on the 12th zooky08 wrote: Since they flipped it, the seal housing air line has to run across the crown wheel.
I have the new rd206 in my jimny and im alway having problems with it. Ive had the old rd88 for 2.5 yrs and never had a problem yet. I like the old style  but there is room for change supa_slim wrote: They washed it good 3cyl and it came up nice hasn't broken yet with Lances driving..
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3cyl
Joined: Tue Jan 29, 2008 10:30 pm Posts: 2054 Location: Ipswich
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Posted: Thu Sep 06, 2012 4:47 pm |
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So driven it already then...  Ripley when?
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kristov
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Joined: Wed Oct 12, 2011 8:47 pm Posts: 347 Location: Bunbury, WA
Vehicle: 2011 jimny
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Posted: Thu Sep 06, 2012 4:47 pm |
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im thinking about locking the rear of my jim soon would it be a good idea to find a rd88 ?(proven to be good) or try a new rd208 not known what they are like?
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Highway-Star
Joined: Thu Apr 30, 2009 11:30 pm Posts: 4109 Location: Ipswich
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Posted: Thu Sep 06, 2012 5:12 pm |
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Joe wrote: I put a RD208 in the front of my old vit (the same as a sierra rear) and didn't have to machine anything Yeah I'm convinced this one would be plenty fine in a Vit also. Verm1n had a 5.12 Vit C&P in a Sierra centre housing when we were looking at the RD208 locker in question, and the design of the 5.12 meant that the whole carrier/locker sits further over (meaning more clearance by quite a notable amount, my memory thinks in the vicinity of 10mm).
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Joe
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Joined: Sat Jul 04, 2009 11:30 pm Posts: 49041 Location: Rockingham W.A
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Posted: Thu Sep 06, 2012 5:25 pm |
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Highway-Star wrote: Joe wrote: I put a RD208 in the front of my old vit (the same as a sierra rear) and didn't have to machine anything Yeah I'm convinced this one would be plenty fine in a Vit also. Verm1n had a 5.12 Vit C&P in a Sierra centre housing when we were looking at the RD208 locker in question, and the design of the 5.12 meant that the whole carrier/locker sits further over (meaning more clearance by quite a notable amount, my memory thinks in the vicinity of 10mm). Hmm i remember talking to Joeblow about the RD208's when they first came out and he had the prototype in the yellow thing and that's running 5.12's so maybe it was built around that
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Highway-Star
Joined: Thu Apr 30, 2009 11:30 pm Posts: 4109 Location: Ipswich
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Posted: Thu Sep 06, 2012 5:53 pm |
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Joe wrote: Highway-Star wrote: Joe wrote: I put a RD208 in the front of my old vit (the same as a sierra rear) and didn't have to machine anything Yeah I'm convinced this one would be plenty fine in a Vit also. Verm1n had a 5.12 Vit C&P in a Sierra centre housing when we were looking at the RD208 locker in question, and the design of the 5.12 meant that the whole carrier/locker sits further over (meaning more clearance by quite a notable amount, my memory thinks in the vicinity of 10mm). Hmm i remember talking to Joeblow about the RD208's when they first came out and he had the prototype in the yellow thing and that's running 5.12's so maybe it was built around that Sounds plausible. At the least it would make sense to me if the 208 was designed as a Vitara front diff lock, and Sierra is a mere after thought...
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3cyl
Joined: Tue Jan 29, 2008 10:30 pm Posts: 2054 Location: Ipswich
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Posted: Thu Sep 06, 2012 6:00 pm |
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Highway-Star wrote: Joe wrote: Highway-Star wrote: Joe wrote: I put a RD208 in the front of my old vit (the same as a sierra rear) and didn't have to machine anything Yeah I'm convinced this one would be plenty fine in a Vit also. Verm1n had a 5.12 Vit C&P in a Sierra centre housing when we were looking at the RD208 locker in question, and the design of the 5.12 meant that the whole carrier/locker sits further over (meaning more clearance by quite a notable amount, my memory thinks in the vicinity of 10mm). Hmm i remember talking to Joeblow about the RD208's when they first came out and he had the prototype in the yellow thing and that's running 5.12's so maybe it was built around that Sounds plausible. At the least it would make sense to me if the 208 was designed as a Vitara front diff lock, and Sierra is a mere after thought... Only excuse to sell something that doesn't really fit, though why not still market the RD88 for Sierra, or take 3mm off the flange area? Now that ARB "ground" the area of the crownwheel side bearing cap on Lance's one I wonder what they did about clearance of the bolt heads.
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Highway-Star
Joined: Thu Apr 30, 2009 11:30 pm Posts: 4109 Location: Ipswich
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Posted: Thu Sep 06, 2012 6:10 pm |
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3cyl wrote: Only excuse to sell something that doesn't really fit, though why not still market the RD88 for Sierra, or take 3mm off the flange area?
Now that ARB "ground" the area of the crownwheel side bearing cap on Lance's one I wonder what they did about clearance of the bolt heads. Pretty confident RD88 is out of production..... I know a few people have been complaining about availability of some parts for them anyway...... Doesn't fit... yeah well, solution was more drastic than fitting a Jimny locker to an LJ   Was sort of hoping either Lance or Brad had a picture of it post grind???
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joeblow
Joined: Sat May 10, 2008 11:30 pm Posts: 3273 Location: melbourne
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Posted: Thu Sep 06, 2012 6:13 pm |
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Joe wrote: Hmm i remember talking to Joeblow about the RD208's when they first came out and he had the prototype in the yellow thing and that's running 5.12's so maybe it was built around that Was built around all ratios.
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Joe
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Posted: Thu Sep 06, 2012 6:38 pm |
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joeblow wrote: Joe wrote: Hmm i remember talking to Joeblow about the RD208's when they first came out and he had the prototype in the yellow thing and that's running 5.12's so maybe it was built around that Was built around all ratios. Yeah i didn't think they would build it around just one ratio, have you heard of them having clearance issues before or is this news to you?
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3cyl
Joined: Tue Jan 29, 2008 10:30 pm Posts: 2054 Location: Ipswich
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Posted: Fri Sep 07, 2012 5:11 am |
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It may only be a problem for 3.9 gears?
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Highway-Star
Joined: Thu Apr 30, 2009 11:30 pm Posts: 4109 Location: Ipswich
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Posted: Fri Sep 07, 2012 6:41 am |
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3cyl wrote: It may only be a problem for 3.9 gears? Everything else the same, I'd say a 3.7 would have actually hit in that centre...
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3cyl
Joined: Tue Jan 29, 2008 10:30 pm Posts: 2054 Location: Ipswich
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Posted: Fri Sep 07, 2012 3:29 pm |
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Highway-Star wrote: 3cyl wrote: It may only be a problem for 3.9 gears? Everything else the same, I'd say a 3.7 would have actually hit in that centre... Without measuring, yea, you'd think the pinion would be bigger in a 3.7. Only reason those 3.9s weren't hitting was the backlash was too tight.
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ZookiMonsta
Joined: Sun Aug 23, 2009 11:30 pm Posts: 1625 Location: Jimboomba
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Posted: Fri Sep 07, 2012 5:20 pm |
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The new style air lockers don't like crash engaging so bear that in mind too, I know a few people that have had to replace bits but the old style has been used the same
way for years without problems.
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Joe
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Posted: Fri Sep 07, 2012 7:10 pm |
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What's crash engaging? turning them on whilst the car is driving/moving?
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SierraDan
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Posted: Fri Sep 07, 2012 7:16 pm |
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Yeah. Which ARB has always said not to do anyway. Common sense to me..
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