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burls

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Joined: Sun Mar 07, 2010 10:30 pm Posts: 989 Location: Ipswich
Vehicle: 95 sj70 and 78 lj81
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 Posted: Sat Oct 20, 2012 8:00 pm |
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Whats the deal with roof sliders
Are they legal in QLD I was thinking of putting some on the LJ. Has anyone else got them in regoed 4b
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31zook
Joined: Tue Mar 24, 2009 10:30 pm Posts: 9242 Location: maito
Vehicle: <3 Edna <3
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 Posted: Sat Oct 20, 2012 8:31 pm |
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Do you mean roof rack? Or exo?
Im guessing your LJ is a tin top?
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BlueSuzy

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Joined: Sun May 04, 2008 11:30 pm Posts: 9716 Location: NSW
Vehicle: SJ51 LWB, SJ70 SWB
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 Posted: Sat Oct 20, 2012 8:39 pm |
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You could make them bolt on. Think he is just talking about a slider up the a-pillar and across the roofline like alot of comp trucks
_________________ BlueSuzy wrote: I'm over the G16b's.
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gravity_powered
Joined: Tue Aug 26, 2008 11:30 pm Posts: 348 Location: Adelaide Hills
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 Posted: Sun Oct 21, 2012 6:36 am |
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Some driven wheels attached to the gutters would be a sensible addition given how often cars seem to fall over around here...
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3cyl
Joined: Tue Jan 29, 2008 10:30 pm Posts: 2054 Location: Ipswich
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 Posted: Sun Oct 21, 2012 7:12 am |
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Highway has them, seem good at stopping the cab getting so bent out of shape.  I reckon without them a roof is a disadvantage.
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Gwagensteve
Joined: Thu Feb 26, 2009 10:30 pm Posts: 13007 Location: Melbourne
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3cyl wrote: Highway has them, seem good at stopping the cab getting so bent out of shape.  I reckon without them a roof is a disadvantage. So much truth here. I can't see how they would be a problem, but I don't know much about QLD. Mine:   They have saved my cab a number of times.  They should be far more legal than any sort of internal cage. Vic regs permit them AFAIK so long as an object with a radius over 80mm will still "roll" over the bodywork - so in total. they can project more than 80mm away from the body. Steve.
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sideways

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Joined: Fri Oct 29, 2010 1:53 pm Posts: 5936 Location: Northcliffe, W.A.
Vehicle: LJs, Sierra, Jimny, Swift.
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 Posted: Sun Oct 21, 2012 9:17 am |
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What pipe/bends did you use Steve?
I'm going to do the same thing with my LJ81 except I'l tie them in with the front body mounts too.
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Gwagensteve
Joined: Thu Feb 26, 2009 10:30 pm Posts: 13007 Location: Melbourne
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 Posted: Sun Oct 21, 2012 9:35 am |
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I used 1" Sch 40 Steam Pipe - 33.4mm OD X 3.37mm WT
Pipe and bends are readily available. Pipe was from a normal steel supply, bends were from a plumbing supply shop.
The gussets to the body are 1.6mm thick.
Steve.
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sideways

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Joined: Fri Oct 29, 2010 1:53 pm Posts: 5936 Location: Northcliffe, W.A.
Vehicle: LJs, Sierra, Jimny, Swift.
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 Posted: Sun Oct 21, 2012 9:40 am |
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Gwagensteve wrote: I used 1" Sch 40 Steam Pipe - 33.4mm OD X 3.37mm WT
Pipe and bends are readily available. Pipe was from a normal steel supply, bends were from a plumbing supply shop.
The gussets to the body are 1.6mm thick.
Steve. Cool, that's what I was planning on using due to the readily available bends.  I am I bit worried the pipe bender wont have enough grunt to bend the pipe though.
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31zook
Joined: Tue Mar 24, 2009 10:30 pm Posts: 9242 Location: maito
Vehicle: <3 Edna <3
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 Posted: Sun Oct 21, 2012 10:46 am |
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The ball they roll over it is 160mm diameter steve 
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sideways

az supporter
Joined: Fri Oct 29, 2010 1:53 pm Posts: 5936 Location: Northcliffe, W.A.
Vehicle: LJs, Sierra, Jimny, Swift.
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31zook wrote: The ball they roll over it is 160mm diameter steve  He said 80mm radius? 
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31zook
Joined: Tue Mar 24, 2009 10:30 pm Posts: 9242 Location: maito
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 Posted: Sun Oct 21, 2012 11:19 am |
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Damn skim reading 
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burls

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Joined: Sun Mar 07, 2010 10:30 pm Posts: 989 Location: Ipswich
Vehicle: 95 sj70 and 78 lj81
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 Posted: Sun Oct 21, 2012 11:49 am |
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yeah after the comp on the weekend, I figure I can save a lot of damage and be more competitive if I can slide past the trees. I want something A bit like g wagons but not down the front (even though that would be better). I recon if I come straight out from the sill and use 30-40mm water pipe it should work a treat. Im not sure if I'll go around the front or just do the sides
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Gwagensteve
Joined: Thu Feb 26, 2009 10:30 pm Posts: 13007 Location: Melbourne
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Are you going to connect to an internal cage? If not, I'd strongly recommend going down the A pillars. If you get a branch in under the slider and against the windscreen frame you're going to have carnage.
Steve.
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burls

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Joined: Sun Mar 07, 2010 10:30 pm Posts: 989 Location: Ipswich
Vehicle: 95 sj70 and 78 lj81
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 Posted: Sun Oct 21, 2012 5:49 pm |
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Im hearing you . Im trying to work out what to do about that
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3cyl
Joined: Tue Jan 29, 2008 10:30 pm Posts: 2054 Location: Ipswich
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 Posted: Sun Oct 21, 2012 7:26 pm |
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Go down the A pillar if you like having a windscreen.
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appsie
Joined: Sun Apr 20, 2008 11:30 pm Posts: 2225
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 Posted: Sun Oct 21, 2012 8:09 pm |
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definately a good thing. seems to be a good addition on all the winch trucks and i have seen them save a fair bit of damage numerous times
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honks
Joined: Tue Apr 20, 2010 11:30 pm Posts: 214 Location: ipswich
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Pretty sure that in Queensland even an Exo is legal as Long as it doesn't protrude 150mm out from the body and doesn't have cross bracing in front of the windscreen well I think in the qld modification hand book it refers to external roof rack so can't c there would be much difference to roof slider just call them roof racks and you should be within the guidelines
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tanshi

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Joined: Tue Jan 09, 2007 10:30 pm Posts: 7717 Location: Brisbane
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 Posted: Mon Oct 22, 2012 12:44 pm |
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IM doing the roof sliders thing, i'll be tieing into the internal cage, down the a pillar and fixing through the body again just at the bottom of the a pillar.
if you tie it onto the body well enough you can easily use small tube.
aaron uses 30 NB i believe
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Joshyboy26
Joined: Thu Sep 01, 2011 11:48 pm Posts: 814 Location: kinglake, VIC
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 Posted: Wed Oct 31, 2012 3:48 pm |
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when you welded in the bends steve, did you use internal sleeves? or just butt weld it all together?
i am thinking of doing the same but i feel like i should put internals inside to give it a bit more strength and a bit more to weld to? interested in your thoughts
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Gwagensteve
Joined: Thu Feb 26, 2009 10:30 pm Posts: 13007 Location: Melbourne
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 Posted: Wed Oct 31, 2012 7:57 pm |
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No, I didn't use internal sleeves. Bear in mind though in my application the cage is fully welded to the cab, not possible with a soft top.
However, there still should be no need for sleeves - Sch 40 pipe is very heavy wall compared to most roll cage tubing. Sleeves are only normally used for repair.
Steve
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Joshyboy26
Joined: Thu Sep 01, 2011 11:48 pm Posts: 814 Location: kinglake, VIC
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 Posted: Thu Nov 01, 2012 7:22 am |
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yeah ok then. i see what you mean the cab and the cage help hold each other together. i would be welding it to my a pillar along the top of my doors and on the b pillar down to the floor and also over the back as well. that way i can keep the soft top (maybe with some modding) and only really the a pillar section will be immediatly visible. im not one for taking off the windscreen or anything so it doesnt really worry me.
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