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zooks4life

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Joined: Thu Jun 10, 2010 8:36 pm Posts: 477 Location: Parkes, NSW
Vehicle: 11 GV3 diesel
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Hi I have a 2012 1.9 diesel ddis grand vitara and do a lot of outback touring and have seen a lot of other big name Fourbies stop due to dirty fuel. I've done research but really don't know what I'm looking for. Denco, terrain tamer, separ, eBay lol etc thoughts?
Is it a must for outback travel with diesels or just unlucky?
Cheers,
Brock
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BlueSuzy

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Joined: Sun May 04, 2008 11:30 pm Posts: 9716 Location: NSW
Vehicle: SJ51 LWB, SJ70 SWB
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I have a mate with a Late Hilux. His is built in. He has had to change his filter because of too much water. He does do local and country trips.
I'd upgrade it.
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shandy92

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Joined: Tue Nov 25, 2008 10:30 pm Posts: 5066 Location: perth, Australia
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mate it wouldnt be hard to have a remove filter head, buy a filter head and filter from fleetguard filtration (Cummins product) or from any auto store. Just hose it in series between the tank and the primary filter.
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sideways

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Joined: Fri Oct 29, 2010 1:53 pm Posts: 5936 Location: Northcliffe, W.A.
Vehicle: LJs, Sierra, Jimny, Swift.
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BlueSuzy wrote: I have a mate with a Late Hilux. His is built in. He has had to change his filter because of too much water. He does do local and country trips.
I'd upgrade it. Granddads 'cruiser had one too, it konks out every few months for the same reason.
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shep
Joined: Thu Mar 29, 2007 11:30 pm Posts: 14498 Location: Here there everywhere
Vehicle: A manly awesome man jimny
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Does the diesel vit have a in tank pump? Might be a bit hard to stick a good filter in if that is the case
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303zuke

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Joined: Wed Aug 19, 2009 11:30 pm Posts: 2447
Vehicle: LJ50V, SJ70
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Yes, a lot of common rail diesels are hard to fit auxilliary/aftermarket fuel filters due to the pressures they run, but these are exactly the engines (or the injectors are, more precisely) that require the best fuel quality possible.
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pezz

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Joined: Fri May 15, 2009 11:30 pm Posts: 2108 Location: western vic
Vehicle: sj51
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Maybe a water serperator funnel that you put in the fuel filler when fueling up at remote fuel stops... that way your not even letting the water get into your tank... i vaguely remember ron moon banging on about these
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want33s

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Joined: Fri Nov 16, 2007 10:30 pm Posts: 8134 Location: Sunshine Coast Qld
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Another option for CRd cars, although far from perfect, is to have a filter between the sub and main tanks and only fill the sub tank at suspect places. Pump fuel from sub to main via filter.
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shep
Joined: Thu Mar 29, 2007 11:30 pm Posts: 14498 Location: Here there everywhere
Vehicle: A manly awesome man jimny
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If only there was a sub tank on a GV.
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bohuler

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Joined: Wed Nov 10, 2010 9:18 am Posts: 1376 Location: Avonsleigh, Victoria
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This was brought to my attention the other day. There is bugger all use fitting a secondary filter unless is filters finer then the original. He was talking around the 2-10 micron filtration on OE filters for some common rails where some after market ones only filter 10-30 microns?? Is this right or does the after market one catch the 'big' shit and lets the OE filter catch the finer stuff and if thats the case, you still get no benifits cause you still need to change both filters often?
Dave
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Shandy
Joined: Tue Apr 26, 2011 3:48 am Posts: 45 Location: canberra
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The coase filter is mainly to get the water out so you can see it. Another product is a water watch. It was on new inventors. It doesn't stop the water cause the flow rate is to high to effectively trap it all. instead it has a buzzer and you stop and purge the line. Bit of a dick around but at least you remove the water from the system. If it stays in the tank it'll turn to alge.
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ChrisRinai
Joined: Tue Dec 13, 2011 12:20 am Posts: 166 Location: Perth
Vehicle: 1985 Sierra Hardtop
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not sure on the pressure ratings on these but i used to sell them all the time for trucks and older 4wd's, you'd have to check if they are suitable for modern engines but they work really well and the replacement filters are cheap as.
5836B325 Delphi Agglomerator Agglomerators combine the features of the standard Delphi filter with water seperation and retention. They will retain more than 95% of water contained in fuel, and hold up to 150cc in the bowl. Water is collected in the base and can then be drained without dissmantling the unit.
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jdk81
Joined: Sat Jul 18, 2009 11:30 pm Posts: 2372 Location: Ballarat, VIC
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