[KEENSY85]

are there any kits out there to upgrade the Suzuki sierra g13ba ignition example dizzy and coil?

[want33s]

NO...
If it ain't broke, don't fix it.

G13's run an electronic distributor that is very durable.

[KEENSY85]

That's what I thought, and belive me it works well but it's old technology know, I'm not even sure if I would bother for the sake or chance of making it better its worth a look, I know parrana off road sells a kit but has any one been on there site any time Latly, there site is really hard to make sense of,

[jdk81]

KEENSY85 wrote:

That's what I thought, and belive me it works well but it's old technology know, I'm not even sure if I would bother for the sake or chance of making it better its worth a look, I know parrana off road sells a kit but had any one been on there site any time. Latly, there site is really hard to make sense of,

the irony

moreon

[JrZook]

KEENSY85 wrote:

That's what I thought, and belive me it works well but it's old technology know, I'm not even sure if I would bother for the sake or chance of making it better its worth a look, I know parrana off road sells a kit but had any one been on there site any time. Latly, there site is really hard to make sense of,

Please explain?

[atari4x4]

paging SuziBlu, you need MSD Keensy

[KEENSY85]

jdk81 wrote:

KEENSY85 wrote:

That's what I thought, and belive me it works well but it's old technology know, I'm not even sure if I would bother for the sake or chance of making it better its worth a look, I know parrana off road sells a kit but had any one been on there site any time. Latly, there site is really hard to make sense of,

the irony

moreon

Let alone this being a non flame area, I don't get ur aggressive response,

Any way, for many vehicles there a lot of different designed ignition systems, some that perform a lot better then others, some run vacum advance on the dizzy some dont ect , and a lot of companies make performance kits for many different set ups, better increased spark and what not.

Atari4x4 what did u mean about paging suziblue

[atari4x4]

Mr Blu raves about his ignition upgrade... search for posts made by SuziBlu & put MSD ignition as your search terms, then hit search & start reading the threads that it comes up with.

[KEENSY85]

atari4x4 wrote:

Mr Blu raves about his ignition upgrade... search for posts made by SuziBlu & put MSD ignition as your search terms, then hit search & start reading the threads that it comes up with.

Thanks u

[atari4x4]

any time mr keen one, but just cause he raves about it, doesn't mean it's any good.

their stickers do look cool on drag & muscle cars though.

[pezz]

KEENSY85 wrote:

are there any kits out there to upgrade the Suzuki sierra g13ba ignition example dizzy and coil?

the first thing i ask myself when considering a mod is... "why?"

so i ask you the same

why?
what is wrong with the current setup?

[KEENSY85]

G13ba I'm just doing some research to see what is out there, doing a ground up building why not improve somethings while ur at it,

[pezz]

KEENSY85 wrote:

G13ba I'm just doing some research to see what is out there, doing a ground up building why not improve somethings while ur at it,

so what are the faults of the current ignition system?

[KEENSY85]

Nothing really I would just like a little more power, I'm allready thinking of better cam and maybe cylinder head upgrade, iv allready got a different carb, one day I might even mess around with gsxr carbs, I' not sure. I figured I'm modifying virtually 60 percent of the car what else could benefit, . Havnt even decided if I'm going head changing the ignition at all, that's why I'm asked on options to see if there were many available.

[pezz]

all that work to the motor to gain stuff all power and have a highly strung motor
when you could just do a engine coversion and have more power and torque out of a stock motor

im not sure of your current setup, but alot can be said for correct gearing

offroad i very rarely use all the power my engines have to offer

[stockman]

There are two upgrades worth while doing. One is a g13bb and the other a g16b.
IMO if you are not willing to do either then just leave the motor as it is.

[KEENSY85]

stockman wrote:

There are two upgrades worth while doing. One is a g13bb and the other a g16b.
IMO if you are not willing to do either then just leave the motor as it is.

That's sounds like very good advice and definitely a thought in the back of mind, and I probably can not be bothered messing with the g13ba it is a very nice little motor, I will defently have gearing soon I'm holding on buying atm, Iv just got to stick up my fire wall first, it is still a bit airy round the feet

[jdk81]

You asked a question, which was a fair question.
Its the fact that you pretty much canned your question in your first reply, in an incoherent post ending with

KEENSY85 wrote:

there site is really hard to make sense of,

That's why I replied the way I did, I dislike having to reread posts to translate them. Especially when you answer your own question.

I wasn't on you, just stirring for a keensy reply.

There still has been no new useful information provided by others, than wasn't covered by Jas, and of which you probably didn't already know.

KEENSY85 wrote:

Any way, for many vehicles some run vacum advance on the dizzy

NT and WT have vacuum advanced timing, and the motors run pretty sweet (when not pushed too hard, for too long).

atari4x4 wrote:

but just cause he raves about it, doesn't mean it's any good.

Atari's input offers great advice, and is pretty much along the lines of the exhaust/extractor thread going on.
IMO, the seat of the pants dyno some people have, gets some people a little hard for mods and and fully believe it, to help them justify what they spent.

The best advice was from Jas

want33s wrote:

If it ain't broke, don't fix it.

Which for a stock sierra engine is 90% accurate (if it looks perished etc, it may be worth considering what to do).

Do not pour money into the stock sierra engine, the hp/$ increase will be atrocious.
Do what you must to keep it running, but don't spend any money trying to get more hp.

stockman wrote:

There are two upgrades worth while doing. One is a g13bb and the other a g16b.
IMO if you are not willing to do either then just leave the motor as it is.

If you are on your P's, you are stuck with the stock engine.
Put your money elsewhere for a few years.
You can start collecting parts for a conversion now, it will also help you prioritise how much you pour into the stock engine.
If you have some of the parts for your engine conversion, you will be tighter than a frog's arse, when it comes to spending anything on the stock engine.

[want33s]

Well said jdk.......

The best thing about G13's is they are cheap...... Flog the absolute crap out of it and when it's fucked throw it away and wack another one in for a few hundred $$.
DRIVE IT LIKE IT'S STOLEN and you will enjoy it a lot more than watching gauges and worrying about your big investment for the sake of a 10-15% power increase.

[KEENSY85]

Fair point, but the motor is not exactly stock, I'm definitely not on my Ps, and also do I need to pm u my post? just to see if u think there sensible or plausible, u know in being a forum if u don't like something maybe just leave it alone, yer u may think I'm less intelligent or some what out of touch with reality regarding my posts but that is ur opinion and u are welcome to it.

The reason I some times put stuff like this thread out there, is I have a creative personality, and my thinking is that if it is to do with zooks why not post and see if others also have thought simular,

But Latly u guys want to nit pick and turn into keyboard tough guys, at the end of the day someone allways knows more or has a new idea. (not meaning my self in particular)

I'm not perfect but u guys need to chill the hell out, this whole post Ihave stepped on egg shells while u guys have gone in for the kill is this really nessasary, Havnt u noticed Lately a lot of the guys around here with lots of kknowledge have got really quite Latly,

[KEENSY85]

Also sorry if my post are sometimes a bit jumbled or what not but I use a smart (not so smart txt predict ) and it's very hard to proof read with this site and with my phone

[jdk81]

KEENSY85 wrote:

Also sorry if my post are sometimes a bit jumbled or what not but I use a smart (not so smart txt predict ) and it's very hard to proof read with this site and with my phone

That not so smart txt predict must be beta version 0.1, because your posts are really hard to read.
Its like the effort of reading a book on calculus, without anything of real value in it.
It's always going to annoy people, and many people wont be as helpful.

People are trying to help you avoid wasting money by passing on things we have learned.
Sometimes people listen to others, and sometimes people choose to ignore others and learn the hard way.
You're free to learn the way you want, but you wont get much sympathy if you choose to ignore advice.

People have tried lots of things, and there's a reason why things aren't popular anymore. If all the little old-school mods you do to an engine worked like advertised, manufacturers would be using it.
If webers, aftermarket extractors, blaster coils, hiclones, and headlight fluid etc worked like advertised, it would become standard on new cars.
For some mods like lift, tyres and lockers, 4 link coil etc, its tuning more for a specific use.
The more you fine tune it, the more you learn.
The only worthwhile performance mod to a g13a or g13ba, is to rebuild it with g13b parts, and make it a twin cam gti.

I have persevered with the stock carby more than the majority of people. I did it to save money, whilst I gathered gear for a low cost build.
I'm trying to save you a lot of time and money, if you are after power by tweaking the g13a/ba etc you are pretty far off the mark.

[atari4x4]

i've got nothing usefull to add apart from this...

KEENSY85 wrote:

U know Fuck the lot of u fucking smart as dick head and stick ur site up ur arse

sorry mate it had to be done

on another note, when a few of the knowledgeable people on here shit can the same idea you know you're on the wrong track, as jdk81 said we're only trying to save you the heartache & disenchantment...

[KEENSY85]

Look the purpose of me posting this post was just to brain storm, and yes I do agree that the g13ba is a lost cause,

And u must understand that once u post a insult as a response ur credit to any experience knowledge or what not is then useless as no one likes being insulted.
And I did not think I disagreed with want33s comment or advice, my Secound post also seems to read fine to me,
But hey its no biggy I just don't get what the drama was with post does no one else think out loud? , and mentioning it being old technology was a bit bold, it works fine I just thought if u upgraded to a coil pack or something and or when or if u ever decided to do another engine transplant it could be 1 less thing think about

[KEENSY85]

jdk81 wrote:

KEENSY85 wrote:

That's what I thought, and belive me it works well but it's old technology know, I'm not even sure if I would bother for the sake or chance of making it better its worth a look, I know parrana off road sells a kit but had any one been on there site any time. Latly, there site is really hard to make sense of,

the irony

moreon

Oh yer ur right Attari4x4 that's what I thought when saw this post,
And I like how u post a message of me telling u were to go I imagine u get told it a lot, as u sometimes come across as a allright guy then other times u go out of your way you be the biggest smartass on the planet just for ur own self satisfaction

[KEENSY85]

Like this woman illustrates

[jdk81]

You previous tantrum history, means you are very likely to have people bait you, in situations such as this to see what you do. I was personally surprised you didn't throw a tantrum, which was why I posted follow up helpful info.
Keensy, if you aren't going to listen to someone who's insulted you, you will probably end up having no one to listen to.

As per people insulting you, well it happens all the time. They may be a dick to you at times, but it doesn't change the fact that they know things you don't.

You are probably going to have people fishing for you to chuck a Keensy for a while, so be prepared. If you don't take the bait, eventually we will leave you alone and find some other person with a </rage quit> habit.

As per other threads, you may notice we purposely spell moron incorrect, from my understanding it is a joke insult.
Moreon
Although, now I understand it to be an insult to those who don't know how to spell moron.
It's kind of scary that the ability to correctly spell is becoming a means to segregate the community.

[atari4x4]

KEENSY85 wrote:

jdk81 wrote:

KEENSY85 wrote:

That's what I thought, and belive me it works well but it's old technology know, I'm not even sure if I would bother for the sake or chance of making it better its worth a look, I know parrana off road sells a kit but had any one been on there site any time. Latly, there site is really hard to make sense of,

the irony

moreon

Oh yer ur right Attari4x4 that's what I thought when saw this post,
And I like how u post a message of me telling u were to go I imagine u get told it a lot, as u sometimes come across as a allright guy then other times u go out of your way you be the biggest smartass on the planet just for ur own self satisfaction

just depends on which one of my 6716353187 personalities is typing... it's fun being bipolar, don't take it to heart princess i mean no harm.

[KEENSY85]

If only I could spell it totally missed that lol jdk81 in the process though I did find there are many viable coil replacements, some with more spark, anti vibration, MSD have a coil pack, pirana 4x4 have a coil pack, and so do summit, if that floated ur boat most options just seemed viable for if u had coil failure. I couldn't find anything for the actual dizzy in any way just the standard ignition modual

[BlueSuzy]

More spark? You only need 1 spark per cylinder to ignite the fuel under compression

Fit a jimny motor. They have a waste spark. Every second stroke it will spark because 2 plugs are connected together