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Jackson
Joined: Mon Apr 04, 2011 5:56 am Posts: 559 Location: Newcastle
Vehicle: Yellow Ute
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 Posted: Fri Nov 02, 2012 4:26 pm |
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So apparently back in the 80's wearing mullets and filling your lungs with tar just wasn't enough, everyone wanted that little bit more tar in their life and filling a sierra with it was the ultimate goal. 30 years later you can see the rust coming through on the other side and the tar has to come off. Being a lazy uni student physical labour isn't your strong suit but having attending many BBQs and parties your scraping skills are honed and you wouldn't say no to a beer. Your going to need a bottle of kero, a scraper, some rags and something to keep the fumes away would be advised if your indoors.  Lay the rags on the tared area and soak them in kero.  Go have a beer or do some other work. After a couple of hours start scraping, all the soft stuff will come off, repeat until its all gone.  Try your hardest not to set your car on fire.
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Gwagensteve
Joined: Thu Feb 26, 2009 10:30 pm Posts: 12998 Location: Melbourne
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Iv'e stripped HEAPS of that stuff and I always do it cold/dry. Adding anything - solvent/heat to soften it just makes the mess bigger IMHO.
Apparently the pro way to do it (as in - race car builders) is with a shovel full of dry ice. Leave it for a few minutes and then give it a tap with a hammer and it shatters and you can just sweep it up.
Steve.
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Jackson
Joined: Mon Apr 04, 2011 5:56 am Posts: 559 Location: Newcastle
Vehicle: Yellow Ute
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 Posted: Fri Nov 02, 2012 4:46 pm |
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Gwagensteve wrote: Apparently the pro way to do it (as in - race car builders) is with a shovel full of dry ice. Leave it for a few minutes and then give it a tap with a hammer and it shatters and you can just sweep it up.
 I'm going to try that in the other foot well.
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atari4x4

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Joined: Mon Dec 11, 2006 10:30 pm Posts: 34843 Location: East Radelayed
Vehicle: SV420+SV620 Vitara's
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the dry ice technique works a treat with the thick factory sound deadening, don't reckon it will work that well with the brushed on tar. do sierra's have factory sound deadening?  get the dry ice pellets & either put them in a bag flattened out & move it around once you hear it start to crack & pop or if you have a heap just spread it out in the footwell.
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reeceh

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Joined: Thu Apr 29, 2010 8:45 am Posts: 1230 Location: Brisbane
Vehicle: 91 sierra, g16b,lift,30's
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 Posted: Fri Nov 02, 2012 5:25 pm |
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Removing tar: Step1) pull carpet/vinyl up and inspect tar Step2) Fetch a beer from the fridge Step3) glue carpet/vinyl back down for no one to ever see again and continue to drink beer
Job well done!
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mrw82

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Joined: Tue Jul 03, 2007 11:30 pm Posts: 1350 Location: stuck in a hole. not off road, just deception bay.
Vehicle: snotbox, 84 LWB sierra 1 litre
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 Posted: Fri Nov 02, 2012 5:49 pm |
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That's all well and good if your in the 1 percentile. But what about the 99% of sierra drivers that don't have vinyl or carpet. Just big tarry rust holes.
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KEENSY85
Joined: Wed May 09, 2012 12:46 am Posts: 1742 Location: north brisbane
Vehicle: 1985 lwb sierra UTE
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 Posted: Fri Nov 02, 2012 7:10 pm |
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I don't mind that tar till u got a remove it as long as some monkey hasn't done it for a rust repair
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buzbox
Joined: Thu Jul 16, 2009 11:30 pm Posts: 3600 Location: Wollongong NSW
Vehicle: LWB Sierra & XL7
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 Posted: Fri Nov 02, 2012 7:32 pm |
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atari4x4 wrote: do sierra's have factory sound deadening?  Yes Why? NFI I removed the vilyn from mine today and the only tar bits are only in the foot well, so perhaps it's more of a heat shield or to reinforce it, the firewall and trans tunnel is foam backed vilyn that is clipped on. I guess that would be the sound deadening bit of it. Driving along this arvo, there's absolutly no noticable difference.
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atari4x4

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Joined: Mon Dec 11, 2006 10:30 pm Posts: 34843 Location: East Radelayed
Vehicle: SV420+SV620 Vitara's
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 Posted: Fri Nov 02, 2012 7:37 pm |
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it would be there to stop the resonance, bit like using dynamat with car stereo's 
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sideways

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Joined: Fri Oct 29, 2010 1:53 pm Posts: 5934 Location: Northcliffe, W.A.
Vehicle: LJs, Sierra, Jimny, Swift.
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 Posted: Fri Nov 02, 2012 8:23 pm |
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atari4x4 wrote: the dry ice technique works a treat with the thick factory sound deadening, don't reckon it will work that well with the brushed on tar. do sierra's have factory sound deadening?  x2 for the first bit. 1.3ls do, type 1 and 2 1ls don't. NFI about type 3 1ls and Marutis though.
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shep
Joined: Thu Mar 29, 2007 11:30 pm Posts: 14499 Location: Here there everywhere
Vehicle: A manly awesome man jimny
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 Posted: Fri Nov 02, 2012 8:41 pm |
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My 1985 sj51 has factory sound tar stuff in the foot well and under the front seats.
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Gwagensteve
Joined: Thu Feb 26, 2009 10:30 pm Posts: 12998 Location: Melbourne
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They all do, even early 1.0 litres.
Steve.
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sideways

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Joined: Fri Oct 29, 2010 1:53 pm Posts: 5934 Location: Northcliffe, W.A.
Vehicle: LJs, Sierra, Jimny, Swift.
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 Posted: Fri Nov 02, 2012 10:28 pm |
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Gwagensteve wrote: They all do, even early 1.0 litres.
Steve. I have never seen a type 1 or 2 1l with the tar sound deadening on the floor.
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fully sick coily
Joined: Tue Feb 14, 2012 7:47 pm Posts: 474 Location: brisbane
Vehicle: chick magnet coily
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31zook
Joined: Tue Mar 24, 2009 10:30 pm Posts: 9242 Location: maito
Vehicle: <3 Edna <3
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 Posted: Sat Nov 03, 2012 8:52 am |
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Jimmy's do! It's the soft stuff in em.
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hooki

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Joined: Mon Jul 21, 2008 11:30 pm Posts: 1785 Location: perth, WA
Vehicle: 85' LWB Sierra, 01' S15
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I found lots of rust under the factory sound deadening mat that is glued to the floor. Could be worth you removing it aswell if you're concerned about rust. Just use a cold chisel and hammer and it will chip off. The above dry ice method mentioned works great for the stuff, lot's of people building race cars do it that way.
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shep
Joined: Thu Mar 29, 2007 11:30 pm Posts: 14499 Location: Here there everywhere
Vehicle: A manly awesome man jimny
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 Posted: Sun Nov 04, 2012 9:51 am |
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hooki

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Joined: Mon Jul 21, 2008 11:30 pm Posts: 1785 Location: perth, WA
Vehicle: 85' LWB Sierra, 01' S15
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 Posted: Mon Nov 05, 2012 12:37 am |
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shep wrote: thats just cheating  ..... I wish I had one of them when I removed mine 
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KEENSY85
Joined: Wed May 09, 2012 12:46 am Posts: 1742 Location: north brisbane
Vehicle: 1985 lwb sierra UTE
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 Posted: Mon Nov 05, 2012 1:18 am |
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shep wrote: All good till u hit some rust, cheater
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