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Perram
Joined: Fri Feb 24, 2012 6:55 pm Posts: 502 Location: sydney
Vehicle: 96 tin top sierra 31's omes
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Sorry for another RUF question but just going to ask anyway My plan is to chop the rear hanger and move it back 25mm reweld add stock good condition rear leaf back(load leaf removed) straight up with 100m shackles Now if that's right I should A. Now have now steering bind problems. B. axel still be situated in around about the same distance from tran but obviously lower. C. Have no need to re-drill leaf pack. D. Have a sweet off roader but retaining most of its on road qualities. If there is anything else I should know or is wrong please advise!!! Cheers Jake 
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shiv
Joined: Fri Sep 02, 2011 6:38 am Posts: 693 Location: Singo
Vehicle: SJ70 1993
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using a rear spring pack and longer shackle would achieve the same result wouldnt it?
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Perram
Joined: Fri Feb 24, 2012 6:55 pm Posts: 502 Location: sydney
Vehicle: 96 tin top sierra 31's omes
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 Posted: Mon Dec 10, 2012 1:38 pm |
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The rear spring is longer so better drop and flex
But I'm far from an expert
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Perram
Joined: Fri Feb 24, 2012 6:55 pm Posts: 502 Location: sydney
Vehicle: 96 tin top sierra 31's omes
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 Posted: Mon Dec 10, 2012 1:41 pm |
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Sorry didn't mean to sound snobbish
I meant I thought that putting the longer stock rears in the front replacing the shorter fronts would increase drop. Which is what I'm looking for, and also shocks and brake lines..
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Gwagensteve
Joined: Thu Feb 26, 2009 10:30 pm Posts: 12997 Location: Melbourne
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There's no need to redrill the leaf pack under any circumstances, full RUF, 1/2 Ruf whatever -re drilling the spring pad on the axle and U bolt plate is the correct method to move the axle fore-aft relative to the spring ends.
You're obviously not afraid to cut and weld VERY critical parts of the car - I'm curious why you've chosen this path rather than full RUF with the spring pads redrilled to pull the axle back. I'd suggest it's likley that at some stage in the future, you might want the axle to come forward to assist in firewall clearance, so it seems a shame to cut off the spring hangers.
Just my 2C.
There is no difference in road performance between full and 1/2 ruf. It's really an issue of the slight wheelbase stretch moving the COG of the car rearwards which assists in off road capability.
Steve.
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Perram
Joined: Fri Feb 24, 2012 6:55 pm Posts: 502 Location: sydney
Vehicle: 96 tin top sierra 31's omes
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That's what i was looking for thanks  I was unsure of the on road performance of the full RUF. Now uv broken that down for me. Going to stew on it. I won't be running bigger tyres. 225's at most so that settles the wheels clearance issue. but it seemed a half RUF was allot easier to achive than full, As there is no extending of the chassis and only minimal weld work.. Also I like how it drives with the shorter wheel base I have followed mophs tin top and his half RUF set up, although I know it's bolted on. As for welding I am confident with my abilities on stick and mig. .edit. Cheers Jake
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KEENSY85
Joined: Wed May 09, 2012 12:46 am Posts: 1742 Location: north brisbane
Vehicle: 1985 lwb sierra UTE
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They way u are talking about doing it will be 100 percent under cover wich is awesome. If u decided u wanted the firewall clearance later u could re drill the spring pads and what not later and it would still be Neer impossible to detect, but horses for courses there's more then 1 way to skin a cat 
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Perram
Joined: Fri Feb 24, 2012 6:55 pm Posts: 502 Location: sydney
Vehicle: 96 tin top sierra 31's omes
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Sweet!!!
Been watching ur build sweet work!!
Jake
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2stroker
Joined: Sun Sep 07, 2008 11:30 pm Posts: 2689 Location: North Brisbane
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Perram once you do this you will see that it is easier to leave the rear mount where it is and move the front forward, drill the perches and plates to reposition the housing like Gwagensteve said. If you are worried about on road then forget about those extended shackles.
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fully sick coily
Joined: Tue Feb 14, 2012 7:47 pm Posts: 474 Location: brisbane
Vehicle: chick magnet coily
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straight up with 100m shackles 
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atari4x4

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Joined: Mon Dec 11, 2006 10:30 pm Posts: 34843 Location: East Radelayed
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100m shackles 
_________________ You're just hating because you don't understand
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fully sick coily
Joined: Tue Feb 14, 2012 7:47 pm Posts: 474 Location: brisbane
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Perram wrote: Sorry for another RUF question but just going to ask anyway My plan is to chop the rear hanger and move it back 25mm reweld add stock good condition rear leaf back(load leaf removed) straight up with 100m shackles Now if that's right I should A. Now have now steering bind problems. B. axel still be situated in around about the same distance from tran but obviously lower. C. Have no need to re-drill leaf pack. D. Have a sweet off roader but retaining most of its on road qualities. If there is anything else I should know or is wrong please advise!!! Cheers Jake 
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atari4x4

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Joined: Mon Dec 11, 2006 10:30 pm Posts: 34843 Location: East Radelayed
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_________________ You're just hating because you don't understand
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