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1oftheboys
Joined: Mon May 28, 2012 10:17 am Posts: 147 Location: SA
Vehicle: 89 SWB vit
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 Posted: Mon Dec 10, 2012 12:42 pm |
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Hey Everyone, Over the weekend i decided to turn the AC on to keep the dogs cool while we took them to the beach. The majority of the time with the AC switched on it just felt like all I'd done was turn the fan on. No cool air at all. So my question is does my air con needs some fixing or are the old vitara AC's just not that good on hot days? Thanks 
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oohsam
Joined: Mon Apr 30, 2012 7:12 pm Posts: 489 Location: south east melbourne
Vehicle: 96 vit hardtop
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 Posted: Mon Dec 10, 2012 1:13 pm |
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Should be good, maybe u just need to regas it.
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GeckoXL7

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Joined: Tue Sep 25, 2012 8:12 pm Posts: 1173 Location: VIC
Vehicle: 2002 Suzuki XL7
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 Posted: Mon Dec 10, 2012 1:25 pm |
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Yeah prob just needs a regass how long since you noticed it not blowing cold air? I got my aircon serviced at Jackson's Auto Repairs 252 Brighton Road, SOMERTON PARK Phone: 8376 0899 Email Address: admin@jacksonsauto.com.auWebsite: http://www.jacksonsauto.com.auSA Mechanical They saved me a bucket load of money 5 years ago, as some quoted between 2700- 4200 to fix a hose that rubbed against the core creating two holes, one hose was $370 from suzuki alone and needed two around $900 for the two. Plus dryer bottle and condenser (which are one unit) + O rings $1400 and Regass $350 (being a XL-7 i have two aircons so it requires alot of gass!) all up they charged $1740 and fixed the hoses by making up there own and even worked out why it happened and prevented it from happening again. I called every aircon service company in Adelaide and they where definatly way out in front of everyone else with knowledge and customer service. Even asked me to come back a few times to check the gass levels and top ups at no charge for a short period after to make sure there work was done right... cant beat that.. The 89 vit has a much simpler aircon than mine, regass would prob be around the $150mark if completely out.
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1oftheboys
Joined: Mon May 28, 2012 10:17 am Posts: 147 Location: SA
Vehicle: 89 SWB vit
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 Posted: Mon Dec 10, 2012 1:57 pm |
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I was thinking regas but wanted to check if maybe they're just not a very good air con.
The weather was cold when I bought it so I don't think i bothered to check. This is the first time i've really tried using it. Normally I just put the window down but the husky was giving me death stares so thought it would be in my best interest to try!
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GeckoXL7

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Joined: Tue Sep 25, 2012 8:12 pm Posts: 1173 Location: VIC
Vehicle: 2002 Suzuki XL7
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Lol, always comes down to the husky i know what you mean i need to fix my rear aircon as my husky always tries to get to the front of the car, i like to keep all the fluff flying around the back of the car and not in my face  Aircon service places can tell you pretty quick what to expect from your aircon, and give free quotes.
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christover1

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Joined: Tue Jul 15, 2008 11:30 pm Posts: 8203 Location: Melbourne
Vehicle: Pajero 91 NH 3.0 SWB
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 Posted: Mon Dec 10, 2012 9:06 pm |
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The overheat cut off sender wire may have fell off. Or sender buggered. It stops the AC running, but turns on its compresser fan Are you sure compresser is spinning.
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christover1

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Joined: Tue Jul 15, 2008 11:30 pm Posts: 8203 Location: Melbourne
Vehicle: Pajero 91 NH 3.0 SWB
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 Posted: Mon Dec 10, 2012 9:08 pm |
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I regassed with HyCool gas. Older gas systems need upgrading to run the new R34 gas, but don't to run Hycool
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DarkHorse

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Joined: Wed Apr 14, 2010 11:30 pm Posts: 5413
Vehicle: 08 SV650
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Hopefully just regas.
Compressor and/or condensor might have given up...30-odd year old components now.
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milandy
Joined: Sat Apr 07, 2012 1:08 pm Posts: 20 Location: Sydney
Vehicle: 1995 2.0 V6 Vitara Estate
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I took my 95 Vitara to get regassed and was told it had gas but that it also had "an Electrical Fault" What steps should I take to narrow the problem down?
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1oftheboys
Joined: Mon May 28, 2012 10:17 am Posts: 147 Location: SA
Vehicle: 89 SWB vit
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christover1 wrote: The overheat cut off sender wire may have fell off. Or sender buggered. It stops the AC running, but turns on its compresser fan Are you sure compresser is spinning. Compressors definitely coming on. The revs drop and you can hear it coming on just no cold air
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GeckoXL7

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Joined: Tue Sep 25, 2012 8:12 pm Posts: 1173 Location: VIC
Vehicle: 2002 Suzuki XL7
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milandy wrote: I took my 95 Vitara to get regassed and was told it had gas but that it also had "an Electrical Fault" What steps should I take to narrow the problem down? First check to see if the aircon light comes on, when turn on can you feel/hear the aircon turn on, if it does can you here the thermo fan come on. As mentioned before there is also a Temperature control that controls the Evaporator Core temp in the car if it gets to cold it turns of the compressor but keeps the core at a preset temperature, its there to stop the core from freezing over. These fail which prevents the Compressor turning on or the gas getting through the Evap core.
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milandy
Joined: Sat Apr 07, 2012 1:08 pm Posts: 20 Location: Sydney
Vehicle: 1995 2.0 V6 Vitara Estate
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GeckoXL7 wrote: First check to see if the aircon light comes on, when turn on can you feel/hear the aircon turn on, if it does can you here the thermo fan come on. Aircon Light definitely comes on. Revs pick up but it doesn't sound like anything is working
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1oftheboys
Joined: Mon May 28, 2012 10:17 am Posts: 147 Location: SA
Vehicle: 89 SWB vit
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 Posted: Fri Dec 14, 2012 10:35 am |
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christover1 wrote: The overheat cut off sender wire may have fell off. Or sender buggered. It stops the AC running, but turns on its compresser fan Are you sure compresser is spinning. I had a quick look last night before it got dark. There were 2 wires, one that ran off into the loom and headed off to the drivers side and this little guy that was loose. Is this the wire mentioned above and if so where's he meant to live?  Attachment: 13122012523a.jpg
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christover1

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Joined: Tue Jul 15, 2008 11:30 pm Posts: 8203 Location: Melbourne
Vehicle: Pajero 91 NH 3.0 SWB
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GeckoXL7

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Joined: Tue Sep 25, 2012 8:12 pm Posts: 1173 Location: VIC
Vehicle: 2002 Suzuki XL7
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Would it be the Compressor Clutch wire?
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1oftheboys
Joined: Mon May 28, 2012 10:17 am Posts: 147 Location: SA
Vehicle: 89 SWB vit
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 Posted: Sat Feb 02, 2013 8:59 am |
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going to have a look at this again today. I did see your pics and had a quick look when you put them up Christover. Just realised i didn't say thanks at the time, appreciate the effort 
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