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shep
Joined: Thu Mar 29, 2007 11:30 pm Posts: 14498 Location: Here there everywhere
Vehicle: A manly awesome man jimny
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What are the cam timing marks? Nothing seems to line up properly and I would rather have everything pointing in the right direction so I can Mark the dizzy pulleys 
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Wazz
Joined: Sun Apr 17, 2011 7:27 am Posts: 210 Location: Keilor
Vehicle: 92 tintop sierra
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if in doubt, make your own marks with a paint marker.
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Scrawny

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Joined: Tue Jan 29, 2008 10:30 pm Posts: 10528 Location: Brissie
Vehicle: Popemobile
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Wazz wrote: if in doubt, make your own marks with a paint marker. I always do this, even when the marks are obvious. Just make sure the marks you put on the pulleys are a bit more permanent (scratches or similar)
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mnemonix

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Joined: Sun Aug 16, 2009 11:30 pm Posts: 1409 Location: Newcastle NSW
Vehicle: '96 LWB trayback
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Hey Shep. Those aren't stock cam gears. What is the chance they have been butchered as part of that distributor creation on the passenger side? Typically you'd have the intake/exhaust slot marked with an I and E respectively. This goes into the pin on the cam. The timing mark recessed on the gear lines up with the ridges on the tapped cover at 12oclock. The crank keyway also lines up with it's mark at 12oclock. If those gears are modified though, all of the above is null and void. You'd need to find TDC and create your own mark from there. FYI: The only factory GTI cam gears I have seen look like this: 
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shep
Joined: Thu Mar 29, 2007 11:30 pm Posts: 14498 Location: Here there everywhere
Vehicle: A manly awesome man jimny
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 Posted: Sat Dec 29, 2012 3:14 pm |
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Can't get the poxy head past the studs. I think this Sierra is about to become a parts car 
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ball

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Joined: Wed Oct 22, 2008 10:30 pm Posts: 4673 Location: Katherine
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want33s

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Joined: Fri Nov 16, 2007 10:30 pm Posts: 8134 Location: Sunshine Coast Qld
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They are Vernier adjustable cam gears... Someone has spent some $$ in that motor.
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shep
Joined: Thu Mar 29, 2007 11:30 pm Posts: 14498 Location: Here there everywhere
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 Posted: Sun Dec 30, 2012 11:54 am |
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Shore have, the head looks awesome. Cant wait to get it back together and plug the nitrious in.
Do GTI motors normally have head bolts? The studs don't look stock.
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shep
Joined: Thu Mar 29, 2007 11:30 pm Posts: 14498 Location: Here there everywhere
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Where the hell am I going to find a thermostat housing?  
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zukmeista
Joined: Sun Mar 22, 2009 10:30 pm Posts: 1273 Location: Whangarei,N.Z.
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Maybe you could use the end of another one and get it welded to that one? Probably easiest way I would think?
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mnemonix

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Joined: Sun Aug 16, 2009 11:30 pm Posts: 1409 Location: Newcastle NSW
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The bolt positions on those cams would suit being adjustable, it would be a very small range if they are though. On mine the adjuster slots are ~20mm long. Are the cams standard?
GTI's use head bolts with a 8mm hex from memory. Studs are available from ARP that use 12 point, 12mm nuts, not sure about other manufacturers.
WTF is the thermostat housing a cut and shunt job?
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shep
Joined: Thu Mar 29, 2007 11:30 pm Posts: 14498 Location: Here there everywhere
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 Posted: Sun Dec 30, 2012 1:44 pm |
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Must be a stud and nut kit. Cam looks to be a lumpy little thing. Dunno what the thermostat is , all I know is it isn't going to last for long so I will be on the lookout for a new one. Sierra one has different bolt spacing. 
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matty_wall
Joined: Sun Feb 15, 2009 10:30 pm Posts: 989 Location: Blue Mountains
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Some g13ba Swifts from the 90s have the thermostat housing you need. Those cams look the same as mine.
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ball

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Joined: Wed Oct 22, 2008 10:30 pm Posts: 4673 Location: Katherine
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shep wrote: Where the hell am I going to find a thermostat housing?  That looks like it has been welded in places before
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shep
Joined: Thu Mar 29, 2007 11:30 pm Posts: 14498 Location: Here there everywhere
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 Posted: Sun Dec 30, 2012 3:19 pm |
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matty_wall wrote: Some g13ba Swifts from the 90s have the thermostat housing you need. Those cams look the same as mine. i doubt that there is a pre 2000 swift within 200km of me  certainly none in any wrecking yards anyway
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jonno_racing

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Joined: Wed Apr 15, 2009 11:30 pm Posts: 8164 Location: Tassie
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shep
Joined: Thu Mar 29, 2007 11:30 pm Posts: 14498 Location: Here there everywhere
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jonno_racing wrote: how soon do you need it? it is back together and going  i slapped a bottle of no3 permatex over it and it isnt leaking so will see if i can source a new one. are these rice motors normally hard to blead the cooling system?
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Wazz
Joined: Sun Apr 17, 2011 7:27 am Posts: 210 Location: Keilor
Vehicle: 92 tintop sierra
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damn you are a swift worker 
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shep
Joined: Thu Mar 29, 2007 11:30 pm Posts: 14498 Location: Here there everywhere
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 Posted: Sun Dec 30, 2012 5:30 pm |
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Boom tish
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jonno_racing

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Joined: Wed Apr 15, 2009 11:30 pm Posts: 8164 Location: Tassie
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masterA

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Joined: Tue Jan 18, 2011 3:24 am Posts: 976 Location: Perth
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A perfect thermostat housing is from a Barina
Also, make sure you get the GTi thermostat as the generic ones make the engine run hotter and they're not that great The GTi one is alot longer
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shep
Joined: Thu Mar 29, 2007 11:30 pm Posts: 14498 Location: Here there everywhere
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 Posted: Tue Jan 01, 2013 10:30 pm |
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Yeah used a GTI thermostat and gaskit. What barina do I need to look for?
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UBZ
Joined: Sun Nov 16, 2008 10:30 pm Posts: 297 Location: NZ
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 Suzuki Swift SA310 (G10)thermostat housing -. M16 fine thread bolt cut down to fit and block the factory thermo switch hole this is what I used . but my termo switch for the radiator fan was mounted near the radiator. have a troll through suzistores online catalog . most suzukis of that era used a similar thermostat size . it's just a mater on finding one that points in the right direction for your water plumbing . also just so you are aware while searching for info in build treads etc, The cap bolt arrangement on the Mk2/3 is 90 deg different to the Mk1 ,
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