[sikysa]

Here is some pics of the ol girl. Bought her new back in April.
Pretty much done everything I can do without affecting the warranty. I want a snorkel but will have to wait until the warranty is up in 4 years or so.

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Corner protection from the UK, genuine racks, side boards, headlight bonnet protectors. Wind guards ebay, ECB nudge bar, Hella Rallye compacts, UHF etc etc. Painted the rims black. Will get them powdercoated when I get new tyres.


Made the cargo barrier myself. Floor to roof with inbuilt rear parcel shelf. Two additional speakers are in there as well that act as the rears. Makes a huge difference.
Tool tray is still in same spot. Have a hinged piece that allows everything to stay where it is. Have storage underneath the back shelf as well. First aid kit/ straps/etc etc in there.
So that's my Jimny.

I have just ordered one of these-

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It pretty much is the length of the rails and width of them too. So quite a good fit if their measurements are anything to go by.
I'm ultimately wanting to put some roof mounted spotties up there.... slim/low profile rectangle ones.... Does anyone have any recommendations? I want them to be useful/powerful as opposed to 20W or whatever.

Hope you like it!

[offroadjack]

got a bit of bling on it. like what you've done in the back of it. don't waste your time with spots on the roof, firstly it illegal and second they don't work very well on the roof unless you get full spread ones. it's better to go for a LED bar for on the tracks, as you already got the driving lights on your bar.
looks good! but those sidesteps will get damaged

[offroadjack]

don't really see why you have to wait to put on a snorkel?....really don't think thats gonna affect your warranty...

[sikysa]

Yeah I had suspicions about whether they were legal on the roof or not... thanks for confirming my fear! The Hellas are pretty good anyway so might stick with them.
The rear took a lot of work and a couple of days. But it's custom and works well so can't complain. Didn't have to drill through the floor either, as I made brackets that screwed into the rear seat mounts under the carpeted MDF. So all very strong!
As for the boards, yeah I figure they will get messed up. Didn't realize when I bought them that they take a good four inches from the clearance. I haven't done my big 4x4 trip yet but when I do I think they'll come off. Didn't pay too much for them as they were from a dealership closing down so not too much of a hit to the pocket.

As for the snorkel I emailed Suzuki Australia and from what I can remember 'they cannot support any modifications to the vehicle that may or may not affect engine performance. Doing so may or may not affect warranty coverage on affected parts' ...... or something along those lines. Dealer told me the same thing too.

[offroadjack]

we got brand new vehicles coming in at TJM , even 100.000 dollar cruisers that got snorkels and the lot fitted so i think they are telling you porkies lol!

[sikysa]

That might be the case!
I still have the email archived at work and when I'm there in a few hours I'll post it up here and see what you guys think!

[offroadjack]

the snorkel is just an extension of the usuall factory fitted airhose, nothing more...it's actually better mod for the engine as the air getting in is much cleaner. the factory ones are usually fitted in the wheelarch and your filter will clog up in no time when on dirt roads. i have serviced vineyard suzuki utes and at the first 1000 km. service the filters were already a throw away! so had to fit snorkels on all of them. it's not a mod that will affect the performance of the vehicle like performance chips, turbo's etc..even performance chips can be unplugged when having it serviced or when it goes in for a warranty repair. dealerships and caryards are all sharks and do anything to get out of a warranty claim.. a snorkel is not going to affect your warranty.

[offroadjack]

and yes, HELLA's are great!! a lightbar is all you need to complte the package. i,ve had my hella rallye 4000's for yonks and now fitted with 55W HID's they put everything else on the market to shame
put the snork on it, get it up that 2 inches more wether it's suspension or tyres, to keep it legal. good luck and keep that shiny side up

[sikysa]

Here4 is an extract from the email-

"We acknowledge that as the owner you are free to modify your vehicle, however we cannot support or recommend any changes from its original specifications or the use of non Suzuki products. Installing third party products to your vehicle may effect your warranty. For more information regarding this, please contact your local Suzuki Dealer.

If you have any other queries please feel free to contact us.

Kind Regards, "

So yeah. You reckon they're just trying to scare me? Have you got any recommendations for snorkels? And can I install it myself? Thanks for all your help!

[offroadjack]

don't worrie about it, they are trying to scare you... as soon as a vehicle has left their yard they won't even remember if it had a snorkel or not.. and out of interest, did they "sell" you a warranty period? seeing as you got 4 years....another waste of cash! sorry to tell you this but when the time comes (not very likely on a suzuki) they will find loopholes to get out of it. it's a bloody schamozzle!! never ever get talked into a warranty deal!!!! you will be fine mate! not much goes wrong on suzuki's !! assuming you had a inspection done by a independant like the RAA... not that they know a lot but at least you would be aware of any problems they might find. enjoy that jimny!! get out there!

[sikysa]

I bought it brand new from a Suzuki dealership back in April, though didn't barter on price so probably paid for it anyway... mind you it was just before the facelift so figure they were keen to clear the old stock. They threw it in along with a few other things. So it has a 5 year warranty all up.

Thanks for the info. I'll be getting a snorkel next!

[offroadjack]

on ya!! do some more looking for info but any legal modificationds are allowed, including a snorkel.

[Matthew]

Roof lights ARE legal.

Legal modifications can void your warranty if they are not approved in writing from Suzuki.

[sikysa]

Hmm. I bought it new with a factory 5 year warranty because my last car, bought used, had to have a ridiculous amount of work done and it pissed me off. I said I wanted a new car with warranty and got it. It would be a shame to void it.... In a couple of months I'm taking it to get serviced I'll see what they say about it.

[atari4x4]

there is a member on here with a brand new jimny in perth & had the dealer fit air lockers, lift & a heap of fruit before delivery. being dealer fitted i'd say they were covered by warranty.

trying to find his build thread but the search is ignoring the words "NEW JIMNY" which makes it almost impossible to find FFS.

[sikysa]

That sounds promising! I prefer doing things myself especially when the installation is relatively straightforward.... but I suppose if they can install it for me then it might solve a few issues. I will speak with them soon regarding my 1yr service (more to find out what they will charge) and see whether if I get the service done they could install it and have it as an 'approved' accessory/fitted at dealer type thing...

[Matthew]

Atari, is this the thread you were looking for?

Edit, just realized this is in Brisbane

[Gwagensteve]

I don't want to be the bringer of bad news, but in all honesty, suzuki are EXTREMELY reluctant to offer warranty on a vehicle that shows any evidence of off road use (see below), let alone a modified car. History has shown its an uphill battle getting warranty at all. I think suzuki might almost be as bad as Toyota, whose products have never been anything other than perfect.

However, my understanding of the law in relation to modifications is this:

The dealer/manufacturer to prove that the modification contributed to the failure in question. They can't refuse warranty point-blank for the vehicle as a whole.

Let's use an example of a substantial steel bull bar. If you fit a bull bar and the alternator fails, or the dash cracks, or the rear pinion seal starts to leak, it's impossible to prove the problem had anything to do with the fitment of the bull bar.

However, if your car overheats and the head cracks, the dealer might well point the finger at the bull bar restricting airflow to the radiator and your warranty is gone. Is that rubbish? Probably, but it's undeniable you've changed the airflow through the radiator by putting a bullbar on the car, so you're on shaky ground.

Follow that reasoning when you consider a modification and consider in the case of a large claim you may need to return the vehicle to stock condition before making the claim.

Of course a dealer will take your money and fit "non suzuki approved" accessories. It's all a bit "ask no questions and I'll tell you no lies" though. In most dealerships across all makes, there's a total disconnection between sales and service. Sales will sell you anything, but service are the people you have to get a warranty claim though.

On the issue of "off road use" it's really a case of "fair wear and tear" Of course a 4WD suzuki is intended to be driven off of tar sealed roads, but if there's evidence the vehicle has been in deep water or mud, or has been grounded (i/e paint missing from the bottom of axlehousings or the chassis) then there's clear evidence the vehicle has been outside of its intended use. It's the same reason clutches and brake pads aren't covered under warranty - if you drive poorly they can be trashed very quickly.

So, if I put springs and shocks on my car that were non standard, my engine/gearbox/transfer warranty should be fine, however, you're going to struggle with death wobble claims, driveshafts, probably even lots of little things that might be affected by a harsher ride

A snorkel is a hard one. It should have no affect on anything, but it does show a intention to travel in deep water. Whilst it, in itself, might not cause any change in warranty coverage, it might make the dealer look very carefully at the rest of the car in the event of a claim.

Just my 2C.

Steve.

[sikysa]

That's probably the best way I've heard that described. Ever. It does make sense. Thing is I'm not installing it to go fording a river. It's more 'just in case.' But I can understand Suzuki's assumptions of 'if it's there it's been used.'

[Scales]

just a question.... why is the window smashing hammer on the WRONG side of the cargo barrier??? not gonna do much good there is it?

Not a bad rig mate, should chuck it in the rigs section aye!

[fordem]

Scales wrote:

just a question.... why is the window smashing hammer on the WRONG side of the cargo barrier??? not gonna do much good there is it?

What's wrong with where it is? I'd want it within reach of the driver's seat - unless you're somehow planning to get trapped in the back?

[shep]

The hammer is so if you get traped in the back you can get out. Another hint, stick the extinguisher in the back as well. If you hit something hard or the car rolls a few times it will come out of its mount and bash ya in the head.

[royce]

shep wrote:

The hammer is so if you get traped in the back you can get out. Another hint, stick the extinguisher in the back as well. If you hit something hard or the car rolls a few times it will come out of its mount and bash ya in the head.

But then if you are stuck in the car and its on fire you cant reach it, I prefer to have them in front of the seat, so your legs contain it a little if it gets free

[shep]

If you are in the front then open a door or wind down a window. If due to a crash the doors and windows don't work then you won't be in a condition to be able to get yourself out anyway. The hammer things were introduced because people were getting stuck in the back while working in there.

[royce]

oops, I was talking about the extinguisher, the hammers are stupid and the rear door should be modified with a handle I reckon

[ball]

[quote="royce" the hammers are stupid [/quote]

They are great. You wouldn't think such a tiny little hammer can cause so much carnage.
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[atari4x4]

ball wrote:

They are great. You wouldn't think such a tiny little hammer can cause so much carnage.
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THIS

[sikysa]

Hammer is going to stay where it is. Extinguisher I'm going to get a heavier mount for it and mount it to the verticle bar.
But they're both staying where they are.

I won't ever get stuck in the back with the door closed. It would be physically impossible.

[Gwagensteve]

My 2c - the hammer and extinguisher are in the right part of the car.

My understanding is that those hammers are to allow trapped occupants of a vehicle with electric windows to smash a window and cut their seatbelts to get out. I do understand the need in the rear compartment of a vehicle where there is no interior door release. They were introduced into the European market over twenty years ago and It wasn't due to the widespread use of cargo barriers in Europe, I can assure you.

Fire extinguishers must be accessible from the drivers seat. If you think an extinguisher is needed at the rear of the vehicle because of camp cooking etc, then you need a second extinguisher down the back rather than moving the primary extinguisher to somwhere you cant grab it as you get out of the vehicle.

Steve.

[shep]

I don't like the extinguisher being in the passenger area of a car because it is a large piece of metal with sharp bits and the mounts would be unlikely to contain it in a violent roll over or impact. In a racing situation there is a helmet which will stop a loose extinguisher bashing ya brains out, nobody wears a helmet in a road car when driven on the road.

The chance of a car destroying impact is a lot greater then a car fire.