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Jake terry
Joined: Mon Dec 31, 2012 2:27 pm Posts: 325
Vehicle: Suzuki sierra
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 Posted: Fri Mar 15, 2013 10:09 pm |
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I can shift in to 1st when not moving but will moving I can't shift in to first easey any Ideas what's wrong Sorry typeo
Last edited by Jake terry on Fri Mar 15, 2013 10:37 pm, edited 2 times in total.
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jdk81
Joined: Sat Jul 18, 2009 11:30 pm Posts: 2372 Location: Ballarat, VIC
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 Posted: Fri Mar 15, 2013 10:23 pm |
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Can you start it in 1st, with clutch engaged? Then drive away afterwards? If so, I would guess the synchro is gone, have you tried rev matching and doing a clutchless shift 2nd-1st?
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missmyljdaze
Joined: Tue Jul 05, 2011 7:16 am Posts: 2323 Location: perth
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 Posted: Fri Mar 15, 2013 10:30 pm |
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deleted my response since Jake edited the typo's in his question
stephen
Last edited by missmyljdaze on Sat Mar 16, 2013 1:16 pm, edited 2 times in total.
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Jake terry
Joined: Mon Dec 31, 2012 2:27 pm Posts: 325
Vehicle: Suzuki sierra
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 Posted: Fri Mar 15, 2013 10:34 pm |
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No, I can't go to first from 2nd will moving
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Scrawny

I live here!
Joined: Tue Jan 29, 2008 10:30 pm Posts: 10528 Location: Brissie
Vehicle: Popemobile
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 Posted: Sat Mar 16, 2013 6:09 am |
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Most vehicles won't select 1st gear easily when moving
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jdk81
Joined: Sat Jul 18, 2009 11:30 pm Posts: 2372 Location: Ballarat, VIC
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When you say moving, how fast are you moving?
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Jake terry
Joined: Mon Dec 31, 2012 2:27 pm Posts: 325
Vehicle: Suzuki sierra
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 Posted: Sat Mar 16, 2013 7:33 am |
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Slow like at a crawl its a pain will fwding
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jdk81
Joined: Sat Jul 18, 2009 11:30 pm Posts: 2372 Location: Ballarat, VIC
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 Posted: Sat Mar 16, 2013 7:41 am |
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try rev matching, remember there is a big gap between 1st and 2nd. So you need to near double the revs it was when in 2nd (approx 1.9 times), and then apply pressure on the gear stick and it should slot in pretty easily.
Say you are at 2000 rpm in 2nd whilst rolling, you need to press the clutch in, and open the throttle, to get the engine rpm to 3800 (1.9x2000). This should be done quickly, without losing too much speed.
EDIT: xplainy bits mor gud, wif mor stuff
Last edited by jdk81 on Sat Mar 16, 2013 8:29 am, edited 1 time in total.
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Scrawny

I live here!
Joined: Tue Jan 29, 2008 10:30 pm Posts: 10528 Location: Brissie
Vehicle: Popemobile
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 Posted: Sat Mar 16, 2013 7:42 am |
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Change the oil for something decent like Penrite then if it still doesn't go in just slam it
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Ace
Joined: Fri Dec 28, 2012 11:26 am Posts: 127
Vehicle: 86 SJ413 dings / rust / 30's
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 Posted: Sat Mar 16, 2013 7:49 am |
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So to confirm,
You can select first when stationary.. idle revs You have trouble going from first to second while moving - even though slowly
Is it... changing to or from 1st... or changing into 2nd? not many cars like shifting down into 1st while in motion, if its going into 2nd that's your problem then maybe its 2nd syncro. 2nd and 3rd syncros are the ones that usually crap out in all boxes as they are the ones that are used the most. eg, how many times do you shift through these two before you get into 5th
Try "double clutching" to check while moving - put outta gear clutch in - rev the engine ( give it lots) and try forcing the lever into other gear as revs drop.
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Scrawny

I live here!
Joined: Tue Jan 29, 2008 10:30 pm Posts: 10528 Location: Brissie
Vehicle: Popemobile
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 Posted: Sat Mar 16, 2013 7:53 am |
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The way I read it he's trying to down change from second to first while moving
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Ace
Joined: Fri Dec 28, 2012 11:26 am Posts: 127
Vehicle: 86 SJ413 dings / rust / 30's
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 Posted: Sat Mar 16, 2013 8:03 am |
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^ nothing like that.. gas clutch in and slap
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atari4x4

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Joined: Mon Dec 11, 2006 10:30 pm Posts: 34842 Location: East Radelayed
Vehicle: SV420+SV620 Vitara's
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auto FTMFW 
_________________ You're just hating because you don't understand
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Ace
Joined: Fri Dec 28, 2012 11:26 am Posts: 127
Vehicle: 86 SJ413 dings / rust / 30's
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I've been trying to swap a 5 speed vit one 130ks for a 3speed auto and havn't had many takers. Wld be keen on the 4 speed but sounds like dramas.
If I have no luck the g16 5speed is going behind the g16... (my SJ g13 one in there crunches)
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