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luke3411

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Joined: Mon Aug 29, 2011 3:25 pm Posts: 183 Location: Katherine
Vehicle: Hard Top Fusty Ducker Vitara
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tanshi

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Joined: Tue Jan 09, 2007 10:30 pm Posts: 7717 Location: Brisbane
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some people like them, most people hate them
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bumstein

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Joined: Sat Oct 06, 2012 5:49 pm Posts: 1975
Vehicle: Sierras!! SWB and LWB
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 Posted: Mon Mar 18, 2013 9:51 am |
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So what's good about them and why do ppl dislike them!??
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Gwagensteve
Joined: Thu Feb 26, 2009 10:30 pm Posts: 13007 Location: Melbourne
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They're super tunable, which is good, but it's also bad - you can keep fiddling with them forever convincing yourself your making your car betterer. There is no question you can make more power than with the stock carby though.
They make cool noises.
They'll flood/starve at some angle or another. I think you can set them up to run awesome when climbing, but not descending, that kind of thing. I recall someone claimed this wasn't an issue and then conceded that it just wasn't an issue on the angles they drive on.
I have no experience with them personally. EFI is moar better. All carbies are the work of the devil in my opinion.
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bumstein

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Joined: Sat Oct 06, 2012 5:49 pm Posts: 1975
Vehicle: Sierras!! SWB and LWB
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Good info Steve!! Thanks Yeah carbies are a bit silly, but they are basic and that appeals to me for a few reasons.. I'm running stock carb but this thread made me consider the webber and it's merits/demerits.. Food for thought.. Cheers 
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luke3411

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Joined: Mon Aug 29, 2011 3:25 pm Posts: 183 Location: Katherine
Vehicle: Hard Top Fusty Ducker Vitara
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 Posted: Mon Mar 18, 2013 10:41 am |
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Hmmm. Well if it's better than the stock one that keeps fcking up on me then I might go for it. I noticed that some have electric chokes. Apart from it being a legallity to have a choke (so I've been told) would this help combat the flooding on extreme angles? And how extreme are we talking?
_________________ Nah doesn't look that deep.......fck
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tanshi

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Joined: Tue Jan 09, 2007 10:30 pm Posts: 7717 Location: Brisbane
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Im my opinion save the money you will spend on the weber, and get your stock one rebuilt properly. Yes you may get more power from a weber. but 99 percent of people pull them back out due to the issues with angles and hills.
its been covered 1000 times on here
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luke3411

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Joined: Mon Aug 29, 2011 3:25 pm Posts: 183 Location: Katherine
Vehicle: Hard Top Fusty Ducker Vitara
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 Posted: Mon Mar 18, 2013 10:55 am |
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I was considering taking the stock one that I have and rebuild it at home and replace it with a weber. Then I have a spare if I ever needed it (probably sit and collect dust).
_________________ Nah doesn't look that deep.......fck
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303zuke

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Joined: Wed Aug 19, 2009 11:30 pm Posts: 2447
Vehicle: LJ50V, SJ70
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tanshi wrote: its been covered 1000 times on here I could only find 999 threads! What's your search secret? 
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atari4x4

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Joined: Mon Dec 11, 2006 10:30 pm Posts: 34842 Location: East Radelayed
Vehicle: SV420+SV620 Vitara's
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303zuke wrote: tanshi wrote: its been covered 1000 times on here I could only find 999 threads! What's your search secret?  the 1000th thread was spelt webber 
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Lukeszook
Joined: Fri Aug 24, 2012 4:01 pm Posts: 118 Location: Buderim, Queensland
Vehicle: '93 1.3 Suzuki sierra soft top
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Mate i just got one. you have to get the modified one (the same mob make them) or else it will flood on slopes. they even make a custom carby cap for the new carb. Instant power increase and purs like a kitten. One of the best $600 i have spent. JUST MAKE SURE you get the modfied one!
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KEENSY85
Joined: Wed May 09, 2012 12:46 am Posts: 1742 Location: north brisbane
Vehicle: 1985 lwb sierra UTE
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 Posted: Mon Mar 18, 2013 8:45 pm |
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Iv got a Weber on mine and it seems fine but iv also got one back from recarb that has been moded, it has know got the vent in the middle of the bowl and a baffel over it as well.it wont be on mine for awhile because my current one is running ok 
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KEENSY85
Joined: Wed May 09, 2012 12:46 am Posts: 1742 Location: north brisbane
Vehicle: 1985 lwb sierra UTE
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 Posted: Mon Mar 18, 2013 8:51 pm |
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 Cost $50 and I had to post it there but they posted it back free
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86slowsierra

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Joined: Fri Jul 25, 2008 11:30 pm Posts: 724 Location: Melbourne
Vehicle: nt sierra
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^ An actual Thumbnail pic of a weber. Bit late to the party but http://www.outerlimits4x4.com/viewtopic.php?f=7&t=28919 This link provides info on jetting, e.c.t so Gwagensteve wrote: you can keep fiddling with yourself forever Just understand that no weber/carby is bolt on, and you will probably never achieve the performance that the well paid Suzuki engineers achieved with the stock carby. having said that i have a Sarge 32/36.
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KEENSY85
Joined: Wed May 09, 2012 12:46 am Posts: 1742 Location: north brisbane
Vehicle: 1985 lwb sierra UTE
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Ppft 
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JrZook
Joined: Tue Aug 08, 2006 11:30 pm Posts: 5517 Location: Holland Park
Vehicle: Awesome!!
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86slowsierra wrote: Gee that thread is a classic! Such a long time ago! That weber I had back then was such a reliable thing.
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atari4x4

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Joined: Mon Dec 11, 2006 10:30 pm Posts: 34842 Location: East Radelayed
Vehicle: SV420+SV620 Vitara's
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KEENSY85 wrote: Ppft  should enter that pic in the photo comp 
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86slowsierra

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Joined: Fri Jul 25, 2008 11:30 pm Posts: 724 Location: Melbourne
Vehicle: nt sierra
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JrZook wrote: 86slowsierra wrote: Gee that thread is a classic! Such a long time ago! That weber I had back then was such a reliable thing. yeah its an oldie but a goodie. its the reason i have a 38DGAS collecting dust in the shed.
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luke3411

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Joined: Mon Aug 29, 2011 3:25 pm Posts: 183 Location: Katherine
Vehicle: Hard Top Fusty Ducker Vitara
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 Posted: Tue Mar 19, 2013 9:19 pm |
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Ok I called back recarb today and asked about the modification. He says there's an offroad mod and a comp mod (if I remember correctly). It has already come with the offroad mod to help prevent against sloshing. The guy on the other end of the phone was really helpfull and didn't fill me with bullshit. Sounds like a pretty good team there. Hopefully I dont have to modify to much to fit this Carb. It did say bolt on and the guy on the phone stressed that it is just a bolt on.
_________________ Nah doesn't look that deep.......fck
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KEENSY85
Joined: Wed May 09, 2012 12:46 am Posts: 1742 Location: north brisbane
Vehicle: 1985 lwb sierra UTE
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atari4x4 wrote: KEENSY85 wrote: Ppft  should enter that pic in the photo comp  Its a winner, luke3411 its allways going to stall after a certain point unless its efi or carbs like su Weber's or bike carbs , In saying that Dave (recarb) who u spoke to seems to think he can achieve up to 47 deg if the vent is moded , They also rebuild the factory carb for about $270 for those Weber haters 
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luke3411

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Joined: Mon Aug 29, 2011 3:25 pm Posts: 183 Location: Katherine
Vehicle: Hard Top Fusty Ducker Vitara
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 Posted: Wed Mar 20, 2013 10:52 am |
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Hmmm. May as well get him to rebuild the carb stock Carb that I have as well
_________________ Nah doesn't look that deep.......fck
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tanshi

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Joined: Tue Jan 09, 2007 10:30 pm Posts: 7717 Location: Brisbane
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for $270 your about a third of the way to the unstopable awesome ness of EFI
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luke3411

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Joined: Mon Aug 29, 2011 3:25 pm Posts: 183 Location: Katherine
Vehicle: Hard Top Fusty Ducker Vitara
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Yeah havent got the resources or time to do an efi conversion on the car. Become quiet attached to the vit to sell it and buy another one just for a few extra pony's.
_________________ Nah doesn't look that deep.......fck
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86slowsierra

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Joined: Fri Jul 25, 2008 11:30 pm Posts: 724 Location: Melbourne
Vehicle: nt sierra
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this is the last ill pipe in. Its not just $300sh for the Weber, unless you have extractors, your going to want them as well. I cant see the point in creating a bigger intake without the bigger output, and your carby needs to be tuned to this. So id be wondering if the weber is tuned to the standard exhaust or made for extractors; also while your at it, they need to be looked at again if you have a snorkel (which webers dont like). If you get a snorkel you will need a proper hat that will allow air to flow properly down the weber, more $$$. So its probably another $500ish on top. Now we're around the $800 mark + the hat for the snorkel and you still flood. they aint so cheap.
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KEENSY85
Joined: Wed May 09, 2012 12:46 am Posts: 1742 Location: north brisbane
Vehicle: 1985 lwb sierra UTE
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Didn't u say u run a 32/36
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luke3411

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Joined: Mon Aug 29, 2011 3:25 pm Posts: 183 Location: Katherine
Vehicle: Hard Top Fusty Ducker Vitara
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 Posted: Wed Mar 20, 2013 8:05 pm |
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Havent got a snorkel and already got extractors and exhaust.
_________________ Nah doesn't look that deep.......fck
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Bretski
Joined: Fri Mar 15, 2013 8:32 pm Posts: 207 Location: Brisbane - Mango Hill
Vehicle: Vitara 1990 SWB Soft Top
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KEENSY85 wrote: atari4x4 wrote: KEENSY85 wrote: Ppft  should enter that pic in the photo comp  Its a winner, luke3411 its allways going to stall after a certain point unless its efi or carbs like su Weber's or bike carbs , In saying that Dave (recarb) who u spoke to seems to think he can achieve up to 47 deg if the vent is moded , They also rebuild the factory carb for about $270 for those Weber haters  So did u get the Carb? If so how's it all going?
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luke3411

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Joined: Mon Aug 29, 2011 3:25 pm Posts: 183 Location: Katherine
Vehicle: Hard Top Fusty Ducker Vitara
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Bretski wrote: KEENSY85 wrote: atari4x4 wrote: KEENSY85 wrote: Ppft  should enter that pic in the photo comp  Its a winner, luke3411 its allways going to stall after a certain point unless its efi or carbs like su Weber's or bike carbs , In saying that Dave (recarb) who u spoke to seems to think he can achieve up to 47 deg if the vent is moded , They also rebuild the factory carb for about $270 for those Weber haters  So did u get the Carb? If so how's it all going? Going sensational. I pointed it up some hills that my car simply couldn't get up because of traction and gradient and it didn't starve the engine or show any of the nightmares that I've been foretold. Best thing I have bought so far for the Vit.
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Bretski
Joined: Fri Mar 15, 2013 8:32 pm Posts: 207 Location: Brisbane - Mango Hill
Vehicle: Vitara 1990 SWB Soft Top
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Sounds great. Our Vitara will probs mostly do beach work and a bit of play so the upgraded power would be great for soft sand.
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