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macguyverjimny
Joined: Mon Jan 03, 2011 9:06 pm Posts: 112 Location: SA
Vehicle: Jimny 2009 vvt JIL
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 Posted: Mon Mar 18, 2013 3:32 pm |
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Hi
can someone help me on that do i need to change for a 3 inch lift with no body lift, i am running 215 75 r15's with a bar and winch in front , suspention in 100% standard,
Caster correction bushes ? extended brake lines? panhard rod adjustment? new radius arms?
i am planning on getting the 3" kit from jimny bits, my jimny is a 2009 vvt model,
also if i can do some of this later than other please specify,
I want to budget more or less what it is going to cost vs 2 " suspention,
thank you
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zoukshin
Joined: Fri Mar 08, 2013 11:20 am Posts: 320
Vehicle: 2004GV + bar + custom mods
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Not sure what the jimny deal is, but if it's like a gv (doubt it), max 2" suspension only with minimum fuss For more than 2", first there is a legal issue in some places (ie QLD). Also will likely require diff drops, potentially extended brake lines. Don't know about CVs etc.
Am sure there is a lot of Jimny owners who can give spot on information.
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coily96

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Joined: Wed May 05, 2010 11:50 am Posts: 823 Location: Beenleigh
Vehicle: Coil Sierra
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 Posted: Mon Mar 18, 2013 8:12 pm |
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Id just be doing the brake lines on the front and if you have a rear brake proportioning valve above your diff id look at that too. The heigher you lift the less rear brakes you will have. Caster and panhard im not sure.
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45tr0

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Joined: Mon Dec 28, 2009 10:30 pm Posts: 237 Location: Wagga Wagga, NSW
Vehicle: 09 Jimny, 3in lift & BFG's
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 Posted: Mon Mar 18, 2013 11:52 pm |
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Yes to all. Caster correction is a must on any lift for a jimny, 2 inches or 3 doesn't matter. You can either go bushings or the jimnybits corrected arms. The arms have the added advantage of being much stronger and a little longer to give a touch more clearance for the guards. Your axles will be about 10-15mm out of track without panhard replacement or relocation. The stock brake lines will be fine n road with a 3inch lift, but the slightest amount of articulation will risk tearing them. I kept mine for a week before swapping them. I wouldn't wheel without doing the lines. You will also need a spacer for the front driveshaft. This goes on the transfer end to give a bit more clearance of the tubular crossmember and to stop the joint from slipping apart with full droop. All up, my 3 in lift from jimnybits with panhards, arms, spacer, brake lines and shock relocation brackets cost me about $1650 landed here in Australia.
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monley

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Joined: Wed Nov 24, 2010 7:58 am Posts: 11092 Location: Mandurah.W.A.
Vehicle: 84 LWB NT
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 Posted: Mon Mar 18, 2013 11:57 pm |
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If it has abs the rear breaks won't be affected by lift. For 3" lift castor bushes (or arms) need to be done, brake lines and adjustable panhard rods. Zouk shin: jimny is live axle so no diff drops or cvs angles to worry about  Edit: beaten to it 
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macguyverjimny
Joined: Mon Jan 03, 2011 9:06 pm Posts: 112 Location: SA
Vehicle: Jimny 2009 vvt JIL
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Now i just need motivation  so post me a few crazy pics of a jimny witha 3 inch lift  pretty please  And is there anyone who installed theshocks and coils by themselves? Thank you for an awesome forum 
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jimny_timmy

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Joined: Fri May 13, 2011 1:56 am Posts: 2326
Vehicle: Suzuki Jimny 2010
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 I'd get the ORA 4" kit... Has everything you need so you don't have to figure it out. I personally reckon its the best suspension I've ever felt in a jimny.
Last edited by jimny_timmy on Tue Mar 19, 2013 6:46 am, edited 1 time in total.
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zukenutter

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Joined: Sun Feb 08, 2009 10:30 pm Posts: 9045 Location: Brisneyland
Vehicle: 2006 Jimny JLX
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^^^ And the ORA arms are stronger than the JB arms
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Blakey
Joined: Sun Mar 04, 2012 6:11 pm Posts: 464 Location: Brisbane, Petire
Vehicle: Jimny 3"lift Flares 31's
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macguyverjimny wrote: Now i just need motivation  so post me a few crazy pics of a jimny witha 3 inch lift  pretty please  And is there anyone who installed theshocks and coils by themselves? Thank you for an awesome forum   their you go ORA 3" lift. done at home. its easy to do yourself its not that hard.
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45tr0

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Joined: Mon Dec 28, 2009 10:30 pm Posts: 237 Location: Wagga Wagga, NSW
Vehicle: 09 Jimny, 3in lift & BFG's
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 Posted: Tue Mar 19, 2013 10:59 am |
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 This was mine - 2009 Jimny on 3 inch Jimnybits lift and 215/75 BFG's - pretty much exactly what you're asking for. 
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JayKay

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Joined: Mon Jul 27, 2009 11:30 pm Posts: 1144 Location: Down Under Down Under
Vehicle: 2008 Jimny Standard As :-)
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Heres mine. 3" Jimny bits ES1000 Shocks Radius Arms Extended Brake Lines Prop Spacer  Next to a Stocker 
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macguyverjimny
Joined: Mon Jan 03, 2011 9:06 pm Posts: 112 Location: SA
Vehicle: Jimny 2009 vvt JIL
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Thank you so much for the pics really love it:) would love some more Cant wait to get a 3 inch from JB.
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sideways

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Joined: Fri Oct 29, 2010 1:53 pm Posts: 5936 Location: Northcliffe, W.A.
Vehicle: LJs, Sierra, Jimny, Swift.
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Take it to Josh and leave with epic suspension! 
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atari4x4

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Joined: Mon Dec 11, 2006 10:30 pm Posts: 34842 Location: East Radelayed
Vehicle: SV420+SV620 Vitara's
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^^^^ South Africa to Australia seems like a bit of a drive just for a spring lift.... 
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Mike57

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Joined: Fri Jul 22, 2011 11:09 am Posts: 1009 Location: Melbourne
Vehicle: Suzuki Jimny 2009
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You need everything you have listed but you don't need the caster bushes AND the arms just the arms. They will give you about 5 degrees of correction but you need to ask the supplier what degree of correction they provide and how much forward they will move your axle. Once you fit the corrected radius arms you may need a prop spacer as well. You will have to work out how far forward the arms push the axle. Then you may have a problem on the 2009 model with the panhard rod interfering with the pitman arm on the power steering box . I would on mine with the 40mm lift at least and was checking this out on the weekend myself. I have not worked out if a drop pitman arm will fix that but you need to watch that one.
The 2009 with ABS does not have the brake equaliser to worry about. As you will also be moving the axle forward you might need to cut the front bumper if you have it as standard at the moment, not totally sure about that as I have an ARB bar. It might be OK but that is not a big deal to fix.
That is all that comes to mind.
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monley

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Joined: Wed Nov 24, 2010 7:58 am Posts: 11092 Location: Mandurah.W.A.
Vehicle: 84 LWB NT
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Mike57 wrote: You need everything you have listed but you don't need the caster bushes AND the arms just the arms. They will give you about 5 degrees of correction but you need to ask the supplier what degree of correction they provide and how much forward they will move your axle. Once you fit the corrected radius arms you may need a prop spacer as well. You will have to work out how far forward the arms push the axle. Then you may have a problem on the 2009 model with the panhard rod interfering with the pitman arm on the power steering box . I would on mine with the 40mm lift at least and was checking this out on the weekend myself. I have not worked out if a drop pitman arm will fix that but you need to watch that one.
The 2009 with ABS does not have the brake equaliser to worry about. As you will also be moving the axle forward you might need to cut the front bumper if you have it as standard at the moment, not totally sure about that as I have an ARB bar. It might be OK but that is not a big deal to fix.
That is all that comes to mind. A dropped pitman arm will cause bump steer as the drag link and panhard rod need to be at the same angle( someone correc me if I'm wrong). I never had issue with my panhard rod in the front hitting any Of the steering competent s.
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Mike57

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Joined: Fri Jul 22, 2011 11:09 am Posts: 1009 Location: Melbourne
Vehicle: Suzuki Jimny 2009
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The reason I mentioned that is that with the adjustable panhard rod on the front of my 2009 Jimny I have less than 5mm clearance between the rod and the pitman arm/steering rod connection. They are at exactly the same vertical position at rest. Moving the axle forward by any amount at all on mine would cause a clash. I expect that the answer is a different shape panhard rod rather than a different position for the Pitman arm but I would have to take a much closer look to work that out.
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fordem
Joined: Mon Apr 19, 2010 11:30 pm Posts: 2656 Location: Georgetown, Guyana
Vehicle: APK416, A6G415, A6N415
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monley wrote: A dropped pitman arm will cause bump steer as the drag link and panhard rod need to be at the same angle( someone correc me if I'm wrong).
In most cases, a vehicle with worm & sector steering will leave the factory with the drag link parallel to the axle, a suspension lift will put the drag link at an angle, and that causes bump steer, a dropped pitman returns the drag link to the original angle and corrects the bump steer. If the suspension design uses a panhard rod, the panhard rod will also be parallel to the axle when the vehicle leaves the factory, please note, the panhard rod and the drag link are both parallel to the axle and therefore at the same angle, and you are correct in stating that if they are not at the same angle, bump steer will occur, but the correct thing to do after a lift is not to leave them just at the same angle, but to make them both parallel to the axle, by fitting a dropped pitman and a panhard relocation bracket. If this is not done, the axle moves sideways as it moves up & down - in fact with a panhard rod the axle will always have some sideways motion as it cycles up & down, but with the panhard rod correctly located the undesirable sideways movement is minimized.
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macguyverjimny
Joined: Mon Jan 03, 2011 9:06 pm Posts: 112 Location: SA
Vehicle: Jimny 2009 vvt JIL
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 Posted: Fri Mar 22, 2013 7:06 pm |
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do i need to change the rear radius arms or the bushes aswell?
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Cruzer244
Joined: Wed Jan 08, 2014 4:24 pm Posts: 7
Vehicle: 2010 suzuki Jimny
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So do you have the 3" lift?? Here is mine. Attachment: ImageUploadedByTapatalk1391453111.829389.jpg Attachment: ImageUploadedByTapatalk1391453148.929097.jpg Attachment: ImageUploadedByTapatalk1391453223.445124.jpg Attachment: ImageUploadedByTapatalk1391453279.811634.jpg Attachment: ImageUploadedByTapatalk1391453344.978809.jpg Attachment: ImageUploadedByTapatalk1391453384.062503.jpg Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk 2
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