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oyster
Joined: Mon Apr 22, 2013 6:47 pm Posts: 6
Vehicle: vitara 2.0 v6
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 Posted: Mon Apr 22, 2013 7:05 pm |
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ill keep it simple. just bought 95 vitara 2.0 v6. bought it to turn into a CHEAP beast. not for road use and trailered everywhere. going to strip it and have some different ideas that id like help with. 6" lift 33's cut the guards up etc. how will it cope. i had a sierra that was fine on 31's yrs ago. i figured with the 2.0 should be fine??? also how easily are parts like this? is there advantages to using proper lift kits etc rather than second hand put together mods?? if u get what im saying. i just want a cheap toy at this stage. also what other qucik cheap things can i do to make it more...wild looking. cheers. ps. havent been in 4x4 sceene for 7 yrs or so. where to go around here? is there any tracks at ormeau anymore or is that all houses now? thanx
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atari4x4

az supporter
Joined: Mon Dec 11, 2006 10:30 pm Posts: 34842 Location: East Radelayed
Vehicle: SV420+SV620 Vitara's
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 Posted: Mon Apr 22, 2013 7:17 pm |
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welcome to AZ  do you know garry jones the stick farmer?
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Gwagensteve
Joined: Thu Feb 26, 2009 10:30 pm Posts: 13007 Location: Melbourne
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 Posted: Mon Apr 22, 2013 7:19 pm |
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It's tuesday tomorrow. Come back then.
Steve.
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oyster
Joined: Mon Apr 22, 2013 6:47 pm Posts: 6
Vehicle: vitara 2.0 v6
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 Posted: Mon Apr 22, 2013 7:22 pm |
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atari4x4

az supporter
Joined: Mon Dec 11, 2006 10:30 pm Posts: 34842 Location: East Radelayed
Vehicle: SV420+SV620 Vitara's
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oyster wrote: is that suzuki talk? is this hillbilly? 33's are going to bring the sad panda's, CV's are going to be the main issue followed by fixing the gearing, neither are going to be cheap to fix. IMO you need to buy a hilux.
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oyster
Joined: Mon Apr 22, 2013 6:47 pm Posts: 6
Vehicle: vitara 2.0 v6
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 Posted: Mon Apr 22, 2013 7:39 pm |
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ok, maybe i got over keen. what do u suggest? whats going to make it far more capable than it is
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Red89
Joined: Tue Jan 12, 2010 10:30 pm Posts: 2801 Location: Perth
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atari4x4 wrote: oyster wrote: is that suzuki talk? is this hillbilly? 33's are going to bring the sad panda's, CV's are going to be the main issue followed by fixing the gearing, neither are going to be cheap to fix. IMO you need to buy a hilux. I think he might be mates with aznstyler and its funny how they both drive Vits 
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Gwagensteve
Joined: Thu Feb 26, 2009 10:30 pm Posts: 13007 Location: Melbourne
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Have you done any research at all, or have you just told us what you think will look cool? I agree, 33's and 6" of lift would look cool on an SV, but it's going to break quicker than hillbilly's twigs. There's miles of tech on here on vitara builds and overcoming the weak links. It's not going to be cheap or easy.
In short, if you want a tall car on 33's for flogging in the bush a vitara is a terrible place to start. I too think you should buy a hilux or patrol.
Steve.
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atari4x4

az supporter
Joined: Mon Dec 11, 2006 10:30 pm Posts: 34842 Location: East Radelayed
Vehicle: SV420+SV620 Vitara's
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oyster wrote: ok, maybe i got over keen. what do u suggest? whats going to make it far more capable than it is weld the front diff & get a 8" bodylift, should be plenty of room for the tyres
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oyster
Joined: Mon Apr 22, 2013 6:47 pm Posts: 6
Vehicle: vitara 2.0 v6
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 Posted: Mon Apr 22, 2013 7:54 pm |
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yeh got a little too excited there and didnt think before typing. my bad. let me start again. what are basic upgrades i can do. where can i find/what should i get for more like a 2" suspension and 1" body lift??? would that be more realistic? ive only just bought it, so im just trying to keep myself occupied til i can start working on it.
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Gwagensteve
Joined: Thu Feb 26, 2009 10:30 pm Posts: 13007 Location: Melbourne
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 Posted: Mon Apr 22, 2013 7:56 pm |
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Read Atari's build thread over and over. It's pretty much state of the art for an SV build.
I've seen SV's build bigger, but they were flaky.
Steve.
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atari4x4

az supporter
Joined: Mon Dec 11, 2006 10:30 pm Posts: 34842 Location: East Radelayed
Vehicle: SV420+SV620 Vitara's
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Gwagensteve wrote: Read Atari's build thread over and over. It's pretty much state of the art for an SV build.
I've seen SV's build bigger, but they were flaky.
Steve.  thanks steve!!!!! those 110 pages of dribble should keep him busy or you can see what a cheap clone looks like here http://www.prozook4x4.com/forum/viewtopic.php?f=9&t=51
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klutched

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Joined: Wed May 16, 2012 3:46 pm Posts: 1691 Location: Brisbane
Vehicle: 99 Grand Vitara
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 Posted: Mon Apr 22, 2013 8:30 pm |
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Just go Calmini 3" + 3" kit??
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shandy92

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Joined: Tue Nov 25, 2008 10:30 pm Posts: 5066 Location: perth, Australia
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 Posted: Mon Apr 22, 2013 8:33 pm |
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klutched wrote: Just go Calmini 3" + 3" kit?? agreed!
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atari4x4

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Joined: Mon Dec 11, 2006 10:30 pm Posts: 34842 Location: East Radelayed
Vehicle: SV420+SV620 Vitara's
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 Posted: Mon Apr 22, 2013 8:35 pm |
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and the calmini 3" bodylift is such a good thing 
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klutched

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Joined: Wed May 16, 2012 3:46 pm Posts: 1691 Location: Brisbane
Vehicle: 99 Grand Vitara
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atari4x4 wrote: and the calmini 3" bodylift is such a good thing  It's "offroad" only as he said above. Plus it'll be better than a 6" suspension lift 
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Gwagensteve
Joined: Thu Feb 26, 2009 10:30 pm Posts: 13007 Location: Melbourne
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Really?
That 3" body lift is a pile of poo, along with the struts, the rear shocks, the rear heim joint, if you carry load the rear springs, and if you don't carry load the front springs.
Not a solution in my book.
Steve.
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atari4x4

az supporter
Joined: Mon Dec 11, 2006 10:30 pm Posts: 34842 Location: East Radelayed
Vehicle: SV420+SV620 Vitara's
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 Posted: Mon Apr 22, 2013 8:37 pm |
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he also mentioned CHEAP.... would hardly call the calmini kit cheap. 
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Gwagensteve
Joined: Thu Feb 26, 2009 10:30 pm Posts: 13007 Location: Melbourne
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It's cheap once you've taken all the rubbish parts to scrap for cold hard cash.
Steve
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klutched

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Joined: Wed May 16, 2012 3:46 pm Posts: 1691 Location: Brisbane
Vehicle: 99 Grand Vitara
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 Posted: Mon Apr 22, 2013 8:51 pm |
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The Calmini kit is pretty cheap compared to buying kits for toyotas and nissans etc.
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oyster
Joined: Mon Apr 22, 2013 6:47 pm Posts: 6
Vehicle: vitara 2.0 v6
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 Posted: Mon Apr 22, 2013 9:22 pm |
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ive noticed on some overseas threads guys that have used diffferent springs out of other vehicles. grand vitara etc? anyone got anything to say about that. yeah i was looking at the calmini. seen one for 1200. in the long run its probably the cheaper way to go. but yeah too expensive for the moment.
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larry
Joined: Wed Sep 08, 2010 3:15 am Posts: 657 Location: penrith, NSW
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 Posted: Mon Apr 22, 2013 9:26 pm |
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2" spring lift cut the guards to fit 33s weld both diffs
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atari4x4

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Joined: Mon Dec 11, 2006 10:30 pm Posts: 34842 Location: East Radelayed
Vehicle: SV420+SV620 Vitara's
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 Posted: Mon Apr 22, 2013 9:29 pm |
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larry wrote: 2" spring lift cut the guards to fit 33s weld both diffs ride clutch fixed blown front diff replace clutch & repeat 
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larry
Joined: Wed Sep 08, 2010 3:15 am Posts: 657 Location: penrith, NSW
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SiKiD_01
Joined: Sat Jul 29, 2006 11:30 pm Posts: 261 Location: Darwin, N.T
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can't get any cheaper than my last LWB build. Vitara - $500 (not rego'd) coil spacers - $200 (6x 30mm) front springs - $0 (stock) rear springs - $0 (Honda accord fronts) body lift - $200 15x8 rims - $200 32" tyres - $1000 (4 new ones too) Mini Spool - $150 (was a birthday pressies anyway) welding front diff - $0 ($30 of oil for front and rear diffs) long rear shocks - $200 rear upper ball joint spacer - made it front strut spacers - made them too = $2450 + normal servicing stuff (another $200) then some tunes - $200 special at supercheap then a new clutch - $100 so all up about $2850 and good to go. everything else on it was from stuff I already had, front bar and spotties, awning, and even front struts were from my last one.  
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oyster
Joined: Mon Apr 22, 2013 6:47 pm Posts: 6
Vehicle: vitara 2.0 v6
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 Posted: Tue Apr 23, 2013 8:02 am |
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That's what I'm talking about ^^^^
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Brett

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Joined: Tue May 27, 2008 11:30 pm Posts: 1791 Location: Central coast NSW
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Auto or manual? 4 door?
2" spring spacers all round ( low range or Bruce on here) 2" body lift( just cruising on here ) Trim rest of guards to clear 33" tyres and some bump stop spacers in it made from c channel, vn- vr wagon rear shocks in the back. That will get you going.
After that look at a locker in the back, front diff drop spacers well help you not keep busting cv's or do the lux cv swap.
I'm about to do another Vitara again as we'll when I find one. I'd go 31" over 33 if its going to be daily driven. There is a old vitara build on here of my last vit on 31"
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SiKiD_01
Joined: Sat Jul 29, 2006 11:30 pm Posts: 261 Location: Darwin, N.T
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rear coils I used were standard fronts from a 93 Honda accord. these do not seat as good as the Nissan 180sx standard rears, but they do lift about an inch or two more.
EDIT: the Honda accord front coils in the rear lift the 4 door vitara more than the front with standard springs and a 60mm coil spacer!!! beware.
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