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jonno_racing

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Posted: Thu May 02, 2013 11:07 am

does any one know of the possibility to buy a new jimny crownwheel and pinion?
mine is getting a bit on the noisey side of life!
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Posted: Thu May 02, 2013 12:07 pm

Genuine would be my guess. $$$$$$

Perhaps you should just pick up a used one.

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Posted: Thu May 02, 2013 12:14 pm

Maruti rear. Front? bad luck.

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Posted: Thu May 02, 2013 12:23 pm

Are you sure its not just the bearings getting noisy? Have you pulled it out and taken a look at the teeth surfaces?

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Posted: Thu May 02, 2013 1:14 pm

Brenno wrote:

Are you sure its not just the bearings getting noisy? Have you pulled it out and taken a look at the teeth surfaces?

Just pulled it and TBH the teath look good! i have ordered a master rebuild kit, so hopefully i have it back on the road buy the weekend or early next week!

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Posted: Thu May 02, 2013 2:45 pm

kenn wrote:

Maruti rear. Front? bad luck.

ones 4.09 and ones 4.11 IIRC, i think i remembered reading an argument on here about it... i don't remember which way around

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Posted: Thu May 02, 2013 4:08 pm

Both are 4.09.

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Posted: Thu May 02, 2013 4:12 pm

mnemonix wrote:

Both are 4.09.

haven't got one infront of me, but I worked my Maruti out to 4.11.

Regardless, I doubt .02 would make any difference.

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Posted: Thu May 02, 2013 4:17 pm

1l is 4.11.

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Posted: Thu May 02, 2013 4:19 pm

Jimny is 4.09 too? or Jimny is 4.11?

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Posted: Thu May 02, 2013 4:33 pm

My maruti front and rear were both 45/11. Ie. 4.09.
Have since used jimny rears on 2 occasions, they were both the same ratio.

I must be the luckiest Bastard alive then?

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Posted: Thu May 02, 2013 4:52 pm

SierraDan wrote:

Jimny is 4.09 too? or Jimny is 4.11?

4.09:1... i'd beleive the words that come out of this man's mouth. :wink:

joeblow wrote:

Benz2369 wrote:

i know the diff ratio on a auto Jimny is different to a manual one

yet to see an auto one that has a different ratio than a manual. i've contacted suzuki about different ratios for that model and they do not exist. they are all 4.09:1.

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Posted: Fri May 03, 2013 3:32 pm

in all honesty i wouldnt know since i've never bothered counting either, I just remember reading an argument of someone claiming one was different to the other

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Posted: Fri May 03, 2013 5:00 pm

4.09 or 4.3 avaliable.

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Posted: Sat May 04, 2013 8:24 pm

^ your post makes no sense!

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Posted: Sun May 05, 2013 7:59 am

Fatzook wrote:

mnemonix wrote:

Both are 4.09.

haven't got one infront of me, but I worked my Maruti out to 4.11.

Regardless, I doubt .02 would make any difference.

Bingo. It didn't bother mine at all. The difference is equivalent to airing the front tyres down less then the rear.

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Posted: Sun May 05, 2013 8:58 am

kenn wrote:

Fatzook wrote:

mnemonix wrote:

Both are 4.09.

Regardless, I doubt .02 would make any difference.

Bingo. It didn't bother mine at all. The difference is equivalent to airing the front tyres down less then the rear.

approx 0.49% different between 4.11 to 4.09

so 31" tyre *25.4mm*0.49% = 3.85mm diff in diam.

Heaps of 4x4s have way more wear difference front to back than this.

F-all difference.

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Posted: Mon May 06, 2013 11:36 am

are matuti diffs 1300 or 1ltr size?

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Posted: Mon May 06, 2013 3:31 pm

Ive got maruti diffs fitted to a wt diff housing. But there is nt and wt maruti's

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Posted: Mon May 06, 2013 3:46 pm

jonno_racing wrote:

are matuti diffs 1300 or 1ltr size?

both.

WT's are 1300 size, NT's are 1L size.

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jonno_racing

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Posted: Mon May 06, 2013 6:39 pm

Thanks guys! the hunt continues!
my diff is ok for the moment. still nosey! but not so much!
want to try to get a GOOD c/p and build with a air locker.

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Posted: Sun Sep 22, 2013 6:49 pm

digging up an old thread: so what was the consensus on maruti vs jimny ratio's? would a jimny crownwheel and pinion be suitable for a swap into a WT maruti rear to replace frucked C&P without having to change the front?

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Posted: Sun Sep 22, 2013 7:37 pm

Yes, its how I run mine. Jimny rear is identical to maruti and can be put in front or rear.

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Posted: Sun Sep 22, 2013 7:46 pm

mnemonix wrote:

Yes, its how I run mine. Jimny rear is identical to maruti and can be put in front or rear.

the whole centre or just the C&P? and is it only the early G13bb jimny's or is it all? cheers for the help

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Posted: Sun Sep 22, 2013 8:23 pm

Whole centre.
I haven't personally pulled a centre from anything newer than around '05 so can't comment on new models. All the old ones I have seen were OK to use.

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