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bulladean_
Joined: Fri May 04, 2012 1:55 pm Posts: 128
Vehicle: tin top sj70
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 Posted: Mon May 06, 2013 6:27 pm |
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Hey all I've notice backlash through the input of my 6.5 transfer case. Should I be worried ?
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jdk81
Joined: Sat Jul 18, 2009 11:30 pm Posts: 2372 Location: Ballarat, VIC
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 Posted: Mon May 06, 2013 6:39 pm |
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How much backlash?
There will always be some backlash, but depends how much. How many kms on the gears?
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bulladean_
Joined: Fri May 04, 2012 1:55 pm Posts: 128
Vehicle: tin top sj70
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 Posted: Mon May 06, 2013 6:45 pm |
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5mm or something. Ill have a look later. I dont know how many. I've put 5000ks on them back I bought the transfer second hand for a good price
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jdk81
Joined: Sat Jul 18, 2009 11:30 pm Posts: 2372 Location: Ballarat, VIC
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 Posted: Mon May 06, 2013 6:47 pm |
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Lock up the output. At 90 degrees place a ruler on one of the flange yolk/drive flange bolts, and measure how far it will go. Try it in high and low.
Ill go measure a stocky and get back to you (ill maybe do the other when i wont mind getting dirty).
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mrw82

az supporter
Joined: Tue Jul 03, 2007 11:30 pm Posts: 1350 Location: stuck in a hole. not off road, just deception bay.
Vehicle: snotbox, 84 LWB sierra 1 litre
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 Posted: Mon May 06, 2013 6:48 pm |
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5mm sounds about right. Certainly nothing to be concerned about.
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jdk81
Joined: Sat Jul 18, 2009 11:30 pm Posts: 2372 Location: Ballarat, VIC
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 Posted: Mon May 06, 2013 6:55 pm |
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On the outside of the flange, rough measurements in poor light. Ill chuck a dial indicator on two stockies when I get the chance.
I got 2mm backlash in high, and 3-4 mm backlash in low
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mrw82

az supporter
Joined: Tue Jul 03, 2007 11:30 pm Posts: 1350 Location: stuck in a hole. not off road, just deception bay.
Vehicle: snotbox, 84 LWB sierra 1 litre
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 Posted: Mon May 06, 2013 7:09 pm |
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Most of it will be in the dog teeth on the shift ring, backlash between gears is most likely perfect.
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bulladean_
Joined: Fri May 04, 2012 1:55 pm Posts: 128
Vehicle: tin top sj70
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 Posted: Mon May 06, 2013 7:13 pm |
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Yeah it roughly four to five in high and low
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jdk81
Joined: Sat Jul 18, 2009 11:30 pm Posts: 2372 Location: Ballarat, VIC
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 Posted: Mon May 06, 2013 7:26 pm |
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Backlash due to dog teeth in shift ring should be same stock vs aftermarket. So any difference would be in the gears etc. A stock case should have a smidge more than desired for stock gears, as it has wear and tear on counter and thrust washers etc
Is it whiney? Does it slap a bit when you accelerate or engine brake?
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bulladean_
Joined: Fri May 04, 2012 1:55 pm Posts: 128
Vehicle: tin top sj70
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 Posted: Mon May 06, 2013 7:28 pm |
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Yeah it is whiney and slaps when I accelerate and engine brake.
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jdk81
Joined: Sat Jul 18, 2009 11:30 pm Posts: 2372 Location: Ballarat, VIC
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 Posted: Mon May 06, 2013 7:29 pm |
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Mine started doing that before it ate itself on the highway I would be inclined to open it up. Will cost you nothing to check.
Check the thrust washers, counter shaft and inside the counter (take pics please) Can get a new counter shaft and needle bearings from trail tough for $45 If needed. Also possibly shim if needed (if it wasnt done on assembly).
Last edited by jdk81 on Mon May 06, 2013 7:33 pm, edited 1 time in total.
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bulladean_
Joined: Fri May 04, 2012 1:55 pm Posts: 128
Vehicle: tin top sj70
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 Posted: Mon May 06, 2013 7:33 pm |
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What sort of damange\ wearing am i looking for
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jdk81
Joined: Sat Jul 18, 2009 11:30 pm Posts: 2372 Location: Ballarat, VIC
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 Posted: Mon May 06, 2013 7:38 pm |
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 The thrust washers will be worn, but depends to what degree. That's the counter shaft, and failed input gear on mine. No pics of needle bearings, if theres any signs of pitting etc, replace them. Inside the counter gear, it can wear too. Its possible it was assembled without the correct shims etc too... Id love to know more info on this... http://auszookers.com/forum/viewtopic.php?f=5&t=40562
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bulladean_
Joined: Fri May 04, 2012 1:55 pm Posts: 128
Vehicle: tin top sj70
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 Posted: Mon May 06, 2013 7:42 pm |
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I'm a little worried about the shimming. Don't have a clue what im doing
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jdk81
Joined: Sat Jul 18, 2009 11:30 pm Posts: 2372 Location: Ballarat, VIC
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 Posted: Mon May 06, 2013 7:51 pm |
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Read the gear install guide on low range. It tells you how assemble it and shim it etc.
You are just doing the reverse, and checking the wear and tear components. then follow the guide to reassemble and check shims.
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bulladean_
Joined: Fri May 04, 2012 1:55 pm Posts: 128
Vehicle: tin top sj70
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 Posted: Mon May 06, 2013 8:04 pm |
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jdk81
Joined: Sat Jul 18, 2009 11:30 pm Posts: 2372 Location: Ballarat, VIC
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 Posted: Tue May 07, 2013 4:04 am |
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If you tear it down, and Im wrong... you will swear at me.. put it back together and swear at me some more. Maybe abuse me a bit more, problem over. we all learn a bit...
If you don't tear it down, and your case goes bang ...
Id much prefer I'm wrong and you're pissed at me, than you wrecking your gears.
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bulladean_
Joined: Fri May 04, 2012 1:55 pm Posts: 128
Vehicle: tin top sj70
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 Posted: Tue May 07, 2013 5:55 am |
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Why would I get pissed, I dont care. Might even learn something on the way.
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jdk81
Joined: Sat Jul 18, 2009 11:30 pm Posts: 2372 Location: Ballarat, VIC
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 Posted: Tue May 07, 2013 6:41 am |
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Somewhat near worse case scenario.. If I pulled my xfer apart on someone elses advice, and it didnt need to be done. Id probably swear and be annoyed.
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