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twitchy
Joined: Fri Jul 25, 2008 11:30 pm Posts: 1086 Location: Lightning Ridge
Vehicle: 1999 Jimny
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 Posted: Mon Jun 10, 2013 12:45 pm |
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Don't be like that Scrawny..... I still love ya mate but pulled them manually see above ^^^^^
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Scrawny

I live here!
Joined: Tue Jan 29, 2008 10:30 pm Posts: 10528 Location: Brissie
Vehicle: Popemobile
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 Posted: Mon Jun 10, 2013 1:17 pm |
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You really need to clear them and see what comes back.
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twitchy
Joined: Fri Jul 25, 2008 11:30 pm Posts: 1086 Location: Lightning Ridge
Vehicle: 1999 Jimny
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 Posted: Mon Jun 10, 2013 1:37 pm |
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They were originally cleared by Gypsy & have developed since... Can I clear them manually?????
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atari4x4

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Joined: Mon Dec 11, 2006 10:30 pm Posts: 34842 Location: East Radelayed
Vehicle: SV420+SV620 Vitara's
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 Posted: Mon Jun 10, 2013 3:18 pm |
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disconnect the battery for a few minutes
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twitchy
Joined: Fri Jul 25, 2008 11:30 pm Posts: 1086 Location: Lightning Ridge
Vehicle: 1999 Jimny
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 Posted: Mon Jun 10, 2013 3:28 pm |
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cool, then 2hrs should be enough....lol.
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twitchy
Joined: Fri Jul 25, 2008 11:30 pm Posts: 1086 Location: Lightning Ridge
Vehicle: 1999 Jimny
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 Posted: Mon Jun 10, 2013 5:48 pm |
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codes didn't clear & since I've had a computer rebuild & lost my manual can someone post a pic of where the air intake temp sensor thingie will be found & I guess it should be replaced 
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atari4x4

az supporter
Joined: Mon Dec 11, 2006 10:30 pm Posts: 34842 Location: East Radelayed
Vehicle: SV420+SV620 Vitara's
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 Posted: Mon Jun 10, 2013 6:01 pm |
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thats the first time i've heard of them not clearing by disconnecting the battery.
IAT is in the top 1/2 of the air box near the strut top.
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twitchy
Joined: Fri Jul 25, 2008 11:30 pm Posts: 1086 Location: Lightning Ridge
Vehicle: 1999 Jimny
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 Posted: Mon Jun 10, 2013 6:57 pm |
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cool beans, will get onto the little bastard this week.
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ozhummer
Joined: Fri Feb 12, 2010 10:30 pm Posts: 284 Location: Brisbane
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 Posted: Mon Jun 10, 2013 7:02 pm |
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if you have an alarm with a backup battery it may be providing a tiny reverse current - enough to keep the volitile memory in the ecu in tact.
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atari4x4

az supporter
Joined: Mon Dec 11, 2006 10:30 pm Posts: 34842 Location: East Radelayed
Vehicle: SV420+SV620 Vitara's
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 Posted: Mon Jun 10, 2013 7:07 pm |
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try holding your foot on the brake to burn that residual power out of the system.
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Rhinoman
Joined: Mon May 16, 2011 7:03 pm Posts: 686 Location: Brinkworth, England
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 Posted: Mon Jun 10, 2013 9:14 pm |
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The codes would have cleared, the IAT is checked on power up so the ECU is telling you that you still have a fault, High means that it is disconnected or has failed open circuit. I will have a look for the other codes, 46 may be a knock sensor fault.
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Rhinoman
Joined: Mon May 16, 2011 7:03 pm Posts: 686 Location: Brinkworth, England
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 Posted: Mon Jun 10, 2013 9:17 pm |
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In answer to the earlier comments about OBD2 v EOBD:
EOBD and OBD2 are in this case the same, OBD2 and EOBD are specifications that include a lot of stuff as well as diagnostics. In the case of the 2006 Suzukis until CANbus they use the same protocol ISO14230-4. The -4 is the subset of KWP2000 originally specified by OBD2 which is also called up by EOBD. I've looked at a few Suzuki ECUs and they return a different header to the one sent by the tool, I don't see anything in the spec. that mandates the return header but clearly some tools expect to see the equivalent of what they sent. The main dealer tools all use an OBD1 protocol, also based on KWP2000, as they allow access to additional data and controls.
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twitchy
Joined: Fri Jul 25, 2008 11:30 pm Posts: 1086 Location: Lightning Ridge
Vehicle: 1999 Jimny
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 Posted: Sun Jul 14, 2013 9:44 am |
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Left my battery disconnected last night to fully charge the battery & by this morning I was left with only one code on the computer
code 17 can anyone tell me what this fucker is???????????????????????
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Rhinoman
Joined: Mon May 16, 2011 7:03 pm Posts: 686 Location: Brinkworth, England
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 Posted: Sun Jul 14, 2013 10:10 pm |
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Code 17 = knock sensor circuit
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twitchy
Joined: Fri Jul 25, 2008 11:30 pm Posts: 1086 Location: Lightning Ridge
Vehicle: 1999 Jimny
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 Posted: Mon Jul 15, 2013 10:01 am |
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Thanks Rhino, time to find the knock sensor. Where does it hide on the V6?????????
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twitchy
Joined: Fri Jul 25, 2008 11:30 pm Posts: 1086 Location: Lightning Ridge
Vehicle: 1999 Jimny
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OK so as far as I can see there is no knock sensor on the 2000, H25. What would be wrong in the circuit??? It's like its dropping spark or flooded, soon as you lift & nail it it runs fine again for a bit. Ideas please as I lost my manual when my fuggen computer died a month ago. Cheers
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Rhinoman
Joined: Mon May 16, 2011 7:03 pm Posts: 686 Location: Brinkworth, England
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Well I didn't reply to your last post as I wasn't aware of an H25 with a knock sensor but models can vary between markets. Someone had a scanner, can it do live data? if not do you know anyone with an oscilloscope who can look at the spark waveform? Otherwise a cheap DMM will allow you to check the TPS and temperature sensors, the FSM is here: http://www.rhinoman.org
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twitchy
Joined: Fri Jul 25, 2008 11:30 pm Posts: 1086 Location: Lightning Ridge
Vehicle: 1999 Jimny
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 Posted: Fri Jul 26, 2013 6:08 pm |
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Cheers once again Rhinoman... i will just have to go & annoy Scrawn to scan it..
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atari4x4

az supporter
Joined: Mon Dec 11, 2006 10:30 pm Posts: 34842 Location: East Radelayed
Vehicle: SV420+SV620 Vitara's
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 Posted: Fri Jul 26, 2013 6:21 pm |
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so what's it doing exactly? probably just a dodgy coil pack or probe. 
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twitchy
Joined: Fri Jul 25, 2008 11:30 pm Posts: 1086 Location: Lightning Ridge
Vehicle: 1999 Jimny
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 Posted: Fri Jul 26, 2013 6:45 pm |
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3 posts up, 4 including yours...lol
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atari4x4

az supporter
Joined: Mon Dec 11, 2006 10:30 pm Posts: 34842 Location: East Radelayed
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 Posted: Fri Jul 26, 2013 6:56 pm |
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yeah i read that, hence the dodgy coil pack/probe post above is it doing it at light load or when it's labouring? from a stationary take off? have you pulled the coil packs to inspect the probes for spark jump & tracking marks? checked to see if you've got an oil leak from the spark tube plug o'rings? have you pulled the spark plugs? i'd be starting with the basics & work from there. 
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twitchy
Joined: Fri Jul 25, 2008 11:30 pm Posts: 1086 Location: Lightning Ridge
Vehicle: 1999 Jimny
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 Posted: Fri Jul 26, 2013 6:59 pm |
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Have replaced the plugs last week, it does it usually at light to moderate throttle, I have six spare coils so I might change the lot in the morning & see what goes.
Drinking fuel like its a landrover
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atari4x4

az supporter
Joined: Mon Dec 11, 2006 10:30 pm Posts: 34842 Location: East Radelayed
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 Posted: Fri Jul 26, 2013 7:02 pm |
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really does sound like a dodgy probe/coil pack to me & it's getting the spark to jump
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twitchy
Joined: Fri Jul 25, 2008 11:30 pm Posts: 1086 Location: Lightning Ridge
Vehicle: 1999 Jimny
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 Posted: Fri Jul 26, 2013 7:24 pm |
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cool, will see in the morning Cheers Atari
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twitchy
Joined: Fri Jul 25, 2008 11:30 pm Posts: 1086 Location: Lightning Ridge
Vehicle: 1999 Jimny
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 Posted: Sat Jul 27, 2013 4:12 pm |
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fucking totally dead o2 sensor... put an old one inthat had cold start issues
7 it's running great bagain.... new o2 sensor will be here from 4wd parts on monday... still has that stupid fucking code 17 showing though.
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