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Poz93

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Joined: Mon Nov 12, 2012 10:52 pm Posts: 57 Location: Where Ever I'm Told
Vehicle: 2006 Jimny
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 Posted: Mon Jun 17, 2013 7:34 pm |
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Hey everyone, I guess you could call me a newbie when it comes to cars so I'll be asking a lot of questions in the future but for now I'm just asking about spark plugs.
I have a 2006 Jimny and I think I should change the spark plugs because I haven't done it since I got the car (9000km ago) and I don't know when it was last done.
I read somewhere that these were the ones I needed: http://www.supercheapauto.com.au/online-store/products/NGK-Spark-Plug-BKR6E-11.aspx?pid=6394&menuFrom=50201#Cross
A Supercheap mate called them an 'Iridium' plug. Whats that mean in basic terms? What are everyone's preferences?
Plugs that can be bought through Supercheap are preferable!
Thanks!
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Mike57

az supporter
Joined: Fri Jul 22, 2011 11:09 am Posts: 1009 Location: Melbourne
Vehicle: Suzuki Jimny 2009
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 Posted: Mon Jun 17, 2013 8:31 pm |
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I have never changed my Jimny plugs (only done 20,000km) but my preference is to only use NGK plugs. These are the only sort I have ever used since about 1975. Sorry that is all I can offer.
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Poz93

az supporter
Joined: Mon Nov 12, 2012 10:52 pm Posts: 57 Location: Where Ever I'm Told
Vehicle: 2006 Jimny
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 Posted: Mon Jun 17, 2013 10:06 pm |
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No thats heaps of information! Thanks!
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Scales

az supporter
Joined: Mon May 30, 2011 9:28 am Posts: 2233 Location: Townsville
Vehicle: 03 Jim M13A no-vvt, Vinyl Spec
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 Posted: Tue Jun 18, 2013 6:44 am |
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+1 to mike. Dont get sucked into all the fancy shit when it comes to plugs. If you REQUIRE iridium or splitfires etc (some cars reccomend), your manual will specify that in writing. Otherwise they are a waste of time IMO. just get the recommended NGK plug.
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Scrawny

I live here!
Joined: Tue Jan 29, 2008 10:30 pm Posts: 10528 Location: Brissie
Vehicle: Popemobile
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 Posted: Tue Jun 18, 2013 8:51 am |
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BKR6E-11 plugs aren't Iridium, they are just a standard plug. Iridium and Platinum plugs have a centre electrode made from a different material to standard plugs. They last much longer (100,000+ compared to 20,000 for standard) but they cost more ($20+ compared to $5 for standard).
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Jezza86

Platinum Supporter
Joined: Tue Dec 06, 2011 9:30 am Posts: 2155 Location: Nhulunbuy 0880
Vehicle: 2010 jimny
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 Posted: Tue Jun 18, 2013 10:26 am |
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they say the precious metals make more spark sometimes, but if not enough spark is a issue, you have bigger problems
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martinez

newbie
Joined: Sun May 26, 2013 10:09 pm Posts: 1
Vehicle: Suzuki Jimny JLX
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 Posted: Tue Jun 18, 2013 12:27 pm |
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I just changed the spark plugs on my 2006 Jimny for the 80k km service. Went with Bosch platinum plus and they're working just fine.
The last two services were done with Suzuki but they had not changed the standard NGK plugs (which according to the service manual they should have done at 60k). Anyways, the plugs still worked fine except that they were a bit sooty.
Hope that helps.
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Poz93

az supporter
Joined: Mon Nov 12, 2012 10:52 pm Posts: 57 Location: Where Ever I'm Told
Vehicle: 2006 Jimny
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 Posted: Tue Jun 18, 2013 10:17 pm |
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Yea price isn't a problem but I might just keep it simple!
Thanks guys for all your feedback!
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kristov

az supporter
Joined: Wed Oct 12, 2011 8:47 pm Posts: 347 Location: Bunbury, WA
Vehicle: 2011 jimny
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 Posted: Tue Jun 18, 2013 10:38 pm |
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copper has more conductivity so i would think that would have more spark all the other materials they use are just a market gimmick in my eyes
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Virt
Joined: Mon Feb 27, 2012 5:19 pm Posts: 73 Location: Perth!
Vehicle: '94 Sj413, 1.6 baleno convert
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 Posted: Wed Jun 19, 2013 1:16 pm |
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Just use standard - I.E what your manual says.
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PORL
Joined: Fri Sep 17, 2010 8:42 am Posts: 262 Location: Beeliar WA
Vehicle: 2004 Jimny 1.6
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 Posted: Wed Jun 19, 2013 7:17 pm |
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I'll probs get chewed for this comment but, I never replace plugs on my cars until the engine is missing on cylinders, I keep 4 spare in the glove box and always have a tool kit in my car.
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atari4x4

az supporter
Joined: Mon Dec 11, 2006 10:30 pm Posts: 34842 Location: East Radelayed
Vehicle: SV420+SV620 Vitara's
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 Posted: Wed Jun 19, 2013 7:40 pm |
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IMO that's pretty poor form & aren't you a mechanic or similar from memory?
i'll bung in a new set every 20thou & even then you can notice an improvement.
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PORL
Joined: Fri Sep 17, 2010 8:42 am Posts: 262 Location: Beeliar WA
Vehicle: 2004 Jimny 1.6
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I know it's poor, my Mazda gets a new set every 5-8k but its putting down serious power a Missfire could do serious damage. To be honest I don't notice a power difference that's why I never bother, if anyone asks me I say every 15 - 20 thou But I just don't notice a difference. I do remove them every now and then and clean them up but that doesn't do very much, Yes I am a qualified mech, but I haven't worked in the industry since 2004, that's just what I do, I don't recommend anyone do it, I'm just saying what I do.
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PORL
Joined: Fri Sep 17, 2010 8:42 am Posts: 262 Location: Beeliar WA
Vehicle: 2004 Jimny 1.6
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 Posted: Wed Jun 19, 2013 7:59 pm |
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Here's a snippet from NGK website, just saying A: A common misconception is that changing spark plugs will result in a large power increase. In most cases, removing even seriously worn out spark plugs will only result in very modest power gains, typically about 1-2% of total engine output. This could be even less for computer-controlled vehicles, primarily because most newer vehicles have more powerful ignition systems and the vehicle's computer can make adjustments so that vehicle operation seems smoother and more seamless.
Many people think that simply supplying more spark to the firing tip can and will combust more fuel. What they don't understand is that most newer cars' engines are so efficient that they are already burning all of the available fuel. Simply adding more spark voltage can't burn more fuel because there is no more fuel to burn.
When a stock or near-stock engine is given a fresh set of spark plugs, peak efficiency is restored. The power gains that come from this restored state of tune are usually minimal. Any company that tells you that their spark plug will provide significant gains in power in a stock or near-stock engine is making blanket statements that may not be supportable.
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atari4x4

az supporter
Joined: Mon Dec 11, 2006 10:30 pm Posts: 34842 Location: East Radelayed
Vehicle: SV420+SV620 Vitara's
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 Posted: Wed Jun 19, 2013 8:06 pm |
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i didn't mention anything about increased power.  my main increase was the fuel economy returning back to normal figures.
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PORL
Joined: Fri Sep 17, 2010 8:42 am Posts: 262 Location: Beeliar WA
Vehicle: 2004 Jimny 1.6
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 Posted: Wed Jun 19, 2013 8:21 pm |
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Yeah I still see little difference even in that. But if you do then all power to you. I get around 10ltr to 100km no matter what I do in the Jimny.
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Jezza86

Platinum Supporter
Joined: Tue Dec 06, 2011 9:30 am Posts: 2155 Location: Nhulunbuy 0880
Vehicle: 2010 jimny
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 Posted: Thu Jun 20, 2013 10:44 am |
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as i see it spark plugs are digital. is it making a spark? if yes dont touch them, if no check gap, clean or replace if necicary
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JrZook
Joined: Tue Aug 08, 2006 11:30 pm Posts: 5517 Location: Holland Park
Vehicle: Awesome!!
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 Posted: Thu Jun 20, 2013 11:36 am |
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Jezza86 wrote: as i see it spark plugs are digital. is it making a spark? if yes dont touch them, if no check gap, clean or replace if necicary So if spark is arcing from the center electrode to the ceramic insulating tip instead of the side electrode it wont need replacing cause it still sparks? 
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Jezza86

Platinum Supporter
Joined: Tue Dec 06, 2011 9:30 am Posts: 2155 Location: Nhulunbuy 0880
Vehicle: 2010 jimny
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 Posted: Thu Jun 20, 2013 1:28 pm |
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then your gap would be wrong
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