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j-mac

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Joined: Mon Feb 04, 2013 5:14 pm Posts: 74 Location: Gosnells
Vehicle: 2013 Jimny
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 Posted: Tue Jun 04, 2013 11:05 am |
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Does anybody run these Maxxis Bravos on their Jimny? I've got a friend who can source them at cost price and I'm wondering if I should run them. http://www.maxxistyres.com.au/tyredetai ... d=13&cat=4Looking to keep to the standard tyre sizing or should I go up to 215s?
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j-mac

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Joined: Mon Feb 04, 2013 5:14 pm Posts: 74 Location: Gosnells
Vehicle: 2013 Jimny
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How do the Maxxis Bravos MT-753's go? I'm looking to chuck them on the Jimny. Standard sizing or will I benefit from going to 215's?
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jdk81
Joined: Sat Jul 18, 2009 11:30 pm Posts: 2372 Location: Ballarat, VIC
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I recall one user on here has them, and said they're fine. They look like a cracking good all-terrain tyre (even though they designate it a MT). IMO AT tyres are too similar to HT tyres. I think they'd be a great tyre for a DD that does some mild - medium wheeling.
I did consider them, but opted for bighorn 764 instead.
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j-mac

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Joined: Mon Feb 04, 2013 5:14 pm Posts: 74 Location: Gosnells
Vehicle: 2013 Jimny
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 Posted: Tue Jun 04, 2013 11:40 am |
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cheers jdk. the MT designation relates to it being a medium terrain? or am i missing something? I'm learning as I go along.
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jdk81
Joined: Sat Jul 18, 2009 11:30 pm Posts: 2372 Location: Ballarat, VIC
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its a mud terrain But very mild Only issue on road I see, might be the lack of siping. Lack of siping may be detrimental to handling in the wet From tyre thread... MacDaddy wrote: Chop wrote: Yep buckshots have knack all siping the old bfg's which these look like had none, they'd be fine at $155 for a 31" tyre. They'd be no good for sebastion loeb and ross dunkerton, i mean alien and macdaddy  Haha... Bighorn  Buckshot 
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jdk81
Joined: Sat Jul 18, 2009 11:30 pm Posts: 2372 Location: Ballarat, VIC
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MacDaddy

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Joined: Thu Mar 26, 2009 10:30 pm Posts: 10453 Location: Perth, Australia
Vehicle: Jeep
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Thinking about changing my tyres... had a look at the Falken Wildpeak, looks good, so went to Bob Jane to get a quote... the guy there reckons they are a very good tyre... i wanted them in a 235/70/16, but they dont do a LT version in that size, the closest size in LT, is a 225/75/16, i asked him if there was any real difference in a LT, he said yes, they are stronger, carry more weight, and have better puncture resistance... so i got a quote for both - 4 x 235/70/16 = $776 = $194 each... 4 x LT225/75/16 = $756 = $189 each... Good prices... http://www.falken.com.au/tyre-product/4 ... ldpeak-at/http://www.bobjane.com.au/Tyres/Falken/WildPeak
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Fatzook

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Joined: Sat Oct 27, 2007 11:30 pm Posts: 14977 Location: The Hills
Vehicle: Vitara, NGV
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You don't necessarily NEED an LT tyre. All you are legally required to do is fit tyres with equal or better load/ speed rating.
For example, the OEM tyres on my 13GV are 100H. 100=800kg and H=210km/h.
The Falken Wildpeak in a 265/60 R18 (my prefered choice) is a 109T. 109=1030kg but T=190kph.
So these tyres are not legal for my vehicle.
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MacDaddy

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Joined: Thu Mar 26, 2009 10:30 pm Posts: 10453 Location: Perth, Australia
Vehicle: Jeep
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Fatzook wrote: You don't necessarily NEED an LT tyre. All you are legally required to do is fit tyres with equal or better load/ speed rating.
For example, the OEM tyres on my 13GV are 100H. 100=800kg and H=210km/h.
The Falken Wildpeak in a 265/60 R18 (my prefered choice) is a 109T. 109=1030kg but T=190kph.
So these tyres are not legal for my vehicle. Ah ok... i think i prefer LT construction tyres, because they add that extra bit of insurance against punctures/staking off road... 
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alien
Joined: Wed Mar 24, 2010 10:30 pm Posts: 16343 Location: Perth
Vehicle: '92 Sierra, 1.6efi, SPOA, 31s.
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Mark, don't forget the LT construction, while adding puncture resistance, adds a LOT of stiffness. Not as much of an issue on the heavier GV, but it does mean when you air down the sidewall will hold the car up and you need to go lower on pressure to get the same footprint (which means more chance of pulling the bead off the rim). So its kind of a catch 22 - its more puncture resistant, but you're more likely to lose all the air out of the tyre from the bead.
My 31's are rated at 1030kg (the KM2s) - that means one tyre can support my whole sierra!!! When i air down below 10psi on them i let air out the bead on occasion, but I need to go down to around 7.5psi to get them to really grip and bag out on rocks.
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christover1

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Joined: Tue Jul 15, 2008 11:30 pm Posts: 8203 Location: Melbourne
Vehicle: Pajero 91 NH 3.0 SWB
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Some decent off road tyres have other forms of sidewall stake resistance, ie the Couragias have a thicker rib of rubber on the sidewall. Some have claimed forms of deseating resistance. So LT is maybe not essential for stake resistance.
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Gwagensteve
Joined: Thu Feb 26, 2009 10:30 pm Posts: 13007 Location: Melbourne
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Why would a 'p' (as in passenger tyre, as opposed to an LT tyre) require low pressure retention or stake resistance? It's outside of their design brief.
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christover1

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Joined: Tue Jul 15, 2008 11:30 pm Posts: 8203 Location: Melbourne
Vehicle: Pajero 91 NH 3.0 SWB
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Gwagensteve wrote: Why would a 'p' (as in passenger tyre, as opposed to an LT tyre) require low pressure retention or stake resistance? It's outside of their design brief. Exactly, that is right. LT don't mean those things either.
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Gwagensteve
Joined: Thu Feb 26, 2009 10:30 pm Posts: 13007 Location: Melbourne
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atari4x4

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Joined: Mon Dec 11, 2006 10:30 pm Posts: 34842 Location: East Radelayed
Vehicle: SV420+SV620 Vitara's
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christover1 wrote: the Couragias have a thicker rib of rubber on the sidewall. Some have claimed forms of deseating resistance. pretty sure it's just a "rim protector" for people running fancy rims
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Gwagensteve
Joined: Thu Feb 26, 2009 10:30 pm Posts: 13007 Location: Melbourne
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The only stake resistance I'm aware of are more sidewall plies, or better ply material like Kevlar. Michelin used to produce an off road tyre guide that was very comprehensive, and listed recommended pressures for rough terrain that were unheard of at the time (early 90's) apparently their off road tyres (XML/XZL) are rated for use down to 11psi at normal load.
I'm not aware of any other manufacturer of a road radial that makes those claims. In fact, there has been much discussion that the rim protector BFG uses on the krawler actually increases the likelihood of a bead burp. There was tech on this in fourwheeler magazine I think a couple of years ago.
Fact is, no commercially available tyres are really made for our application.
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sideways

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Joined: Fri Oct 29, 2010 1:53 pm Posts: 5935 Location: Northcliffe, W.A.
Vehicle: LJs, Sierra, Jimny, Swift.
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Gwagensteve wrote: Why would a 'p' (as in passenger tyre, as opposed to an LT tyre) require low pressure retention or stake resistance? It's outside of their design brief. Why would a light truck tyre require that either? It's an A/T tyre, no matter the strength of construction it is designed(ish) for offroad use. LT tyres are always going to be better obviously but it's not like they're saying the P can't go offroad, it just suits a different load rating.
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brando93

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Joined: Sun Sep 04, 2011 6:29 am Posts: 309 Location: Perth Hills
Vehicle: 89 SWB vitara, g16b conversion
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please excuse a rather amateur question, I have searched.. Just bought a set of 30x9.5 treps for my vitara, will be runnin a calmini 3"suspension lift, possible body lift but will avoid it if possible. Found a set of 15x8 f100 alloys, anyone run 15x8s on their vitara? is 8" bordering on too wide for a 30x9.5?
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Gwagensteve
Joined: Thu Feb 26, 2009 10:30 pm Posts: 13007 Location: Melbourne
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Yes. I would run a 9.5 on a 6" rim, 7 at a pinch.
Steve
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brando93

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Joined: Sun Sep 04, 2011 6:29 am Posts: 309 Location: Perth Hills
Vehicle: 89 SWB vitara, g16b conversion
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cheers for the quick reply 
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shep
Joined: Thu Mar 29, 2007 11:30 pm Posts: 14498 Location: Here there everywhere
Vehicle: A manly awesome man jimny
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What's the % size difference between stock jimny tyres and 30x9.5?
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tanshi

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Joined: Tue Jan 09, 2007 10:30 pm Posts: 7717 Location: Brisbane
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tassie jeeper
Joined: Fri Jun 14, 2013 9:39 pm Posts: 246
Vehicle: 1995 2.0V6 Vitara LWB
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bohuler wrote: $165 tyre $25 freight (4 tyres, vic metro) $10 remove and refit labour from your car $30 fitting to your rim with new valve $12 balancing 4wd steel wheel $15 disposal (try going to the tip, they charge more then $20 a tyre) This makes your $165 tyre ending up costing you $257 p.s rant over  i had 5 tyres fitted and balanced for $50 
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krat
Joined: Wed Nov 09, 2011 3:55 am Posts: 214 Location: Country Victoria
Vehicle: 1995 Vitara, SWB
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I have a set of 15"x 5.5" Alloys fitted with stock 205's on my vit and always end up losing air pressure when left sitting in the shed. Recently, I took one down to the local tyre shop and asked them to fix what I thought was a puncture or valve problem. When I picked it up I was told the reason for air loss was caused by "oxidisation" of the alloy rim which causes pitting and subsequent loss of air over time. Has anyone else experienced this problem. The tyre guy recommended that I use steel wool on the rim lip to reduce the pitting. Any other suggestions.? Sealant solution etc. P.S. He did mention that airing down all the time particularly on beaches increases the problem. Given that my zook spends 90% of its life aired down on beaches may now be a real pain. Kev. 
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tassie jeeper
Joined: Fri Jun 14, 2013 9:39 pm Posts: 246
Vehicle: 1995 2.0V6 Vitara LWB
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krat wrote: my vit always end up losing air pressure when left sitting in the shed. the reason for air loss was caused by "oxidisation" of the alloy rim which causes pitting and subsequent loss of air over time. tyre guy recommended that I use steel wool on the rim lip to reduce the pitting. my zook spends 90% of its life aired down on beaches may now be a real pain. Kev.  1st if ur zook spend most of its life around salt water and sand make sure u wash it after every trip and straight after not a week later. also the steel wool sounds like your best bet and maybe use autosol with it and rub untill the pitting is gone
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christover1

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Joined: Tue Jul 15, 2008 11:30 pm Posts: 8203 Location: Melbourne
Vehicle: Pajero 91 NH 3.0 SWB
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 Posted: Thu Jul 11, 2013 3:33 pm |
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I can't imagine sand and salt is good for steel rims either..
The shop that fitted my last set of Couragias used a rim sealer stuff (forgot to ask if they did this time). They also clean up the beads with a wire brush etc before fitting, more so on 4wd tyres.
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Rob`
Joined: Wed May 08, 2013 7:09 am Posts: 54 Location: Sydney, Australia
Vehicle: 2012 Jimny
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j-mac wrote: Does anybody run these Maxxis Bravos on their Jimny? I've got a friend who can source them at cost price and I'm wondering if I should run them. http://www.maxxistyres.com.au/tyredetai ... d=13&cat=4Looking to keep to the standard tyre sizing or should I go up to 215s? I have a set of 215 Bravos on my 2013 Jimny. I really rate the tyre, but I have noticed some issues with wobbles at between 60 and 70 km/hr. Just out of curiosity, what's the cost price on them?
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Scrawny

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Joined: Tue Jan 29, 2008 10:30 pm Posts: 10528 Location: Brissie
Vehicle: Popemobile
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Ordered some Cooper AT3's today Gotta love tax time!! 
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j-mac

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Joined: Mon Feb 04, 2013 5:14 pm Posts: 74 Location: Gosnells
Vehicle: 2013 Jimny
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Rob` wrote: j-mac wrote: Does anybody run these Maxxis Bravos on their Jimny? I've got a friend who can source them at cost price and I'm wondering if I should run them. http://www.maxxistyres.com.au/tyredetai ... d=13&cat=4Looking to keep to the standard tyre sizing or should I go up to 215s? I have a set of 215 Bravos on my 2013 Jimny. I really rate the tyre, but I have noticed some issues with wobbles at between 60 and 70 km/hr. Just out of curiosity, what's the cost price on them? Haven't approached him about them yet but I'm looking at setting up some black sunnies wrapped in the maxxis 751's after tax time. Quoted price is $195 but I'll let you know what I get charged when I grab them. Are you running any lift or other suspension mods? Just thinking about the wobble...
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Rob`
Joined: Wed May 08, 2013 7:09 am Posts: 54 Location: Sydney, Australia
Vehicle: 2012 Jimny
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j-mac wrote: Rob` wrote: j-mac wrote: Does anybody run these Maxxis Bravos on their Jimny? I've got a friend who can source them at cost price and I'm wondering if I should run them. http://www.maxxistyres.com.au/tyredetai ... d=13&cat=4Looking to keep to the standard tyre sizing or should I go up to 215s? I have a set of 215 Bravos on my 2013 Jimny. I really rate the tyre, but I have noticed some issues with wobbles at between 60 and 70 km/hr. Just out of curiosity, what's the cost price on them? Haven't approached him about them yet but I'm looking at setting up some black sunnies wrapped in the maxxis 751's after tax time. Quoted price is $195 but I'll let you know what I get charged when I grab them. Are you running any lift or other suspension mods? Just thinking about the wobble... $195 is about $15 more than what I paid for mine, for a set of 5 I think I paid ~ $180 each for them. (but this is NSW). I'm running a 50mm Trail Master lift kit from Jimnybits (it's the comfort one if you're wondering).
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