[tassie jeeper]

hey guys basically as the title suggests id like to know how much abuse these things can take in stock trim im a little concerned with the strength of the "CV's" and the alloy diff casing up front?
i dont beat on my rigs to hard and have good mechanical sympathy but sometimes that is not enough.

below are some links a track i have done in the jeep and i just wanted to know (provided i look after it) will my "bog stock" vitara on 29.5" BF-MT's make it in one piece im confident i can get it up there just wanna know if the drive line will hold up last time i did this track i had solid axle front and rear with 35" rock tyres and diff locks so...?

videos best at 720P
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HHmAqOcw2Ag
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zCqWqRQkhnM
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gm5B4t6a5XY
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VSvQZzPtuFo


also if your interested here is a direct link to my youtube channel u will find videos of the balfour track there also and more:
http://www.youtube.com/user/tassiejeeper01/videos

[atari4x4]

just had a quick squizz at your vids & what awesome terrain.

IMO you'll end up smashing the shit out of it on 29's & no lift, driveline shouldn't be a problem with a bit of mechanical sympathy & smart driving. but looking at some sections i reckon you'll get hung up alot smashing gearbox crossmember, sills & fuel tank.

why not take the jeep, it's 11ty times more capable?

[tassie jeeper]

atari4x4 wrote:

just had a quick squizz at your vids & what awesome terrain.

IMO you'll end up smashing the shit out of it on 29's & no lift, driveline shouldn't be a problem with a bit of mechanical sympathy & smart driving. but looking at some sections i reckon you'll get hung up alot smashing gearbox crossmember, sills & fuel tank.

why not take the jeep, it's 11ty times more capable?

thanks for the reply atari
1st of all yer its a great track, iv only done it the once and keen to get back up there. i get bored easily and like something where u actually have to think about where to put the wheels not just pointing it in that direction and opening up the throttle (gets old pretty quick)

2nd was hoping u were not gonna say that might have to make the barwork for it 1st (and look into making up a skid plate for the gas tank how thick do u guys generally make skid plates? all the stuff on the jeep is 6mm
will definitely make a vid when i do go up might impress a few be a while off yet funds are tight and need a new clutch before i can take it off road. plenty of time to do barwork already designed it all just needa save up for some steel and get off my ass and make it

3rd id love to take the jeep buts its stuck in the driveway with no engine or gearbox

[christover1]

My skid plates are 3mm with bends for strength, some use 5mm, but they get a bit heavy.

http://s129.photobucket.com/user/christ ... e%20stuffs

I can understand the challenge mentality.

[tassie jeeper]

christover1 wrote:

My skid plates are 3mm with bends for strength, some use 5mm, but they get a bit heavy.

http://s129.photobucket.com/user/christ ... e%20stuffs

I can understand the challenge mentality.

nice work on the skids did it get a bit warmer down there afterwards? thinking it blocks off quite a bit of air.
also u seem to spend a fair bit of time on ur belly plates perhaps u should skin them with nylon (its light, durable, and will also strengthen the plates) but mainly to help the vehicle to slide over things.

[christover1]

Haven't noticed any heat increases, though if that becomes an issue, I could aerate it with holes I guess.
Thicker 5mm could mean needing less material, so more air, if that's an issue for your needs.
For me, it meant I could not bend it, or work with it myself (and I'd have to buy it )

I've used gal, because I got it cheap/free.
Its actually quite " slippery " doesn't seem to stick to stuff.
Certainly slides over stuff better than my cross member did.

I like the nylon skin idea, but not likely to happen, too many things on my budget list

[tassie jeeper]

christover1 wrote:

Haven't noticed any heat increases, though if that becomes an issue, I could aerate it with holes I guess.
Thicker 5mm could mean needing less material, so more air, if that's an issue for your needs.
For me, it meant I could not bend it, or work with it myself (and I'd have to buy it )

I've used gal, because I got it cheap/free.
Its actually quite " slippery " doesn't seem to stick to stuff.
Certainly slides over stuff better than my cross member did.

I like the nylon skin idea, but not likely to happen, too many things on my budget list

i think i will go with 4mm plate to me 4mm is the definition of plate 4mm and up it plate and 3mm and under is sheet IMO
im a welder by trade so ill just cut it out to shape and get it folded at my old work.

would u beleive it as i was typeing this message my tyres which i orderd from sydney on friday pulled into the drive way now im off to get them fitted

[karlmarkiewicz]

Not sure if this will still be relevant, but i blew my front diff from inside out after about 2 months of owning it (second owner though). (viewtopic.php?f=5&t=40836)
Just make sure when one of your front wheels is stopped and the other is free, do not floor it in reverse for a long time, that is how i did mine.

[Marko_SJ]

[quote="karlmarkiewicz"
Just make sure when one of your front wheels is stopped and the other is free, do not floor it in reverse for a long time, that is how i did mine.[/quote]

You probably wouldn't wanna do that even with patrol diffs and 31's

[tassie jeeper]

The_Amateur wrote:

You probably wouldn't wanna do that even with patrol diffs and 31's

haha yer im used to being gentle i have 35"s weighing in a 60kg's a pop i running on a D30 with 200hp and about 300-400NM of torque havn't broke an axle yet its all about the way u drive it and a small portion of sheer dumb luck,
no goo going up to a big rock ledge and going $hits gonna break

[atari4x4]

^^^ this x11ty... mechanical sympathy goes a long way

[russgt]

christover1 wrote:

My skid plates are 3mm with bends for strength, some use 5mm, but they get a bit heavy.

http://s129.photobucket.com/user/christ ... e%20stuffs

I can understand the challenge mentality.

Friggin hell those plates are mint!! Nice work!

[christover1]

russgt wrote:

christover1 wrote:

My skid plates are 3mm with bends for strength, some use 5mm, but they get a bit heavy.

http://s129.photobucket.com/user/christ ... e%20stuffs

I can understand the challenge mentality.

Friggin hell those plates are mint!! Nice work!

Thanks I'm happy with them.
Was bloody hard work, but glad I did it..

[karlmarkiewicz]

The_Amateur wrote:

[quote="karlmarkiewicz"
Just make sure when one of your front wheels is stopped and the other is free, do not floor it in reverse for a long time, that is how i did mine.

You probably wouldn't wanna do that even with patrol diffs and 31's [/quote]
Hahah yeah, I have certainly learnt my lesson.