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bumstein

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Joined: Sat Oct 06, 2012 5:49 pm Posts: 1975
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 Posted: Thu Aug 08, 2013 6:30 pm |
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Hi folks  Rebuilding my stock carb and the rebuild kit has stuff all info with it. Worst diagram ever!! The inevitable happened of course, there's a few wee bits that sproinged out and I didn't see where they came from.. The FSM has a fairly good diagram of the anatomy but wondered who had a good, well detailed diagram or some good tips?? Thanks all 
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Marko_SJ
Joined: Tue Jan 17, 2012 1:40 am Posts: 2979 Location: Darwin, NT
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 Posted: Thu Aug 08, 2013 6:42 pm |
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Well, when I did it I had springs and check balls launch out too.
I might go and get the manual to jog my memory if you want? Its the spring and ball check for the accelerator pump you are asking about, right?
Turns out I did the carby kit for nothing, my throttle pivot was worn.
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bumstein

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Joined: Sat Oct 06, 2012 5:49 pm Posts: 1975
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 Posted: Thu Aug 08, 2013 6:47 pm |
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Thanks mate!! There are a few parts that took me by surprise!! Springs and a wee ball.. There's a tiny rubber O ring that appeared on my workbench.. And I'm not sure what else I've cocked up until I'm ready to plug it all back together 
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bumstein

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Joined: Sat Oct 06, 2012 5:49 pm Posts: 1975
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 Posted: Thu Aug 08, 2013 6:49 pm |
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Oh, and I should stipulate that it's a 1.3 Sierra '93 with stock Aisin carb
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Marko_SJ
Joined: Tue Jan 17, 2012 1:40 am Posts: 2979 Location: Darwin, NT
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 Posted: Thu Aug 08, 2013 7:12 pm |
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No probs. I couldnt find the manual so i opened up my parts carby. See the little brass nozzle that shoots fuel into the throat? It is connected to a hole in the body of the carb. It goes checkball, spring and then metal bit. The o ring goes around the metal part that sits on the spring.
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Red89
Joined: Tue Jan 12, 2010 10:30 pm Posts: 2801 Location: Perth
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Not sure if this is from the FSM or not.
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bumstein

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Joined: Sat Oct 06, 2012 5:49 pm Posts: 1975
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 Posted: Thu Aug 08, 2013 7:47 pm |
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Ah thanks Amateur!! Ball-spring-O ring clad metal dooberlacky!! That's a big part of my mystery solved!!
Last edited by bumstein on Thu Aug 08, 2013 7:49 pm, edited 1 time in total.
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bumstein

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Joined: Sat Oct 06, 2012 5:49 pm Posts: 1975
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 Posted: Thu Aug 08, 2013 7:48 pm |
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Red89 wrote: Not sure if this is from the FSM or not. Thanks Red!! That's not the FSM one, might help a bunch!!
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bumstein

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Joined: Sat Oct 06, 2012 5:49 pm Posts: 1975
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 Posted: Wed Aug 14, 2013 3:38 pm |
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Ok.. Lets see if any of you carby boffins out there can confirm or slander my work.. Firstly, it goes Filter basket (not pictured) washer, needle seat then needle. Held in by the float assy. Right?? Attachment: ImageUploadedByTapatalk1376460741.421690.jpg Attachment: ImageUploadedByTapatalk1376460765.888229.jpg Then the power valve piston and spring held in by a wee screw and clip. Attachment: ImageUploadedByTapatalk1376460833.521587.jpg Attachment: ImageUploadedByTapatalk1376460856.338289.jpg How am I going so far??
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Marko_SJ
Joined: Tue Jan 17, 2012 1:40 am Posts: 2979 Location: Darwin, NT
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I'm no carb boffin - thats what I'd call JrZook - but it looks okay to me. The first couple of pics are logical, ie: copper seal, seat and needle, works like a toilet  . And the next two seem fine. The biggest problem AFAIK is having a worn throttle pivot causing vac leaks, and the biggest PITA is setting float height. Thats all there is to it but if those two factors aren't satisfied it will never run right (ask how I know  )
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bumstein

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Joined: Sat Oct 06, 2012 5:49 pm Posts: 1975
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 Posted: Wed Aug 14, 2013 4:20 pm |
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Ha!! These sure can be dramatic issues!! And carby's are so far beyond my diagnostic ability!! I've got a running carby coming as a spare, so if it doesn't run right I can swap them over and still tonk around while I pull my hair out trying to figure the probs with this one..
Next trick, confidently assemble the pump plunger assy!!! Eeeek
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bumstein

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Joined: Sat Oct 06, 2012 5:49 pm Posts: 1975
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 Posted: Wed Aug 14, 2013 4:27 pm |
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Ok next stage, I've just spotted on the diagram is the pump discharge assy.. It goes Ball- pump discharge check (large), then spring, then weight. All in the wee hole at the end of the screw driver... Only I don't seem to have a freakin spring for there!!! Attachment: ImageUploadedByTapatalk1376463787.154372.jpg
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Marko_SJ
Joined: Tue Jan 17, 2012 1:40 am Posts: 2979 Location: Darwin, NT
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bumstein wrote: Bumstein is missing a springAttachment: ImageUploadedByTapatalk1376463787.154372.jpg We can't help you find a spring  Thats the one we were looking at, at the start of the thread. The throttle linkage and all its hangers on are more complicated than the carb itself! It is diabolical Hope you find it.
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bumstein

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Joined: Sat Oct 06, 2012 5:49 pm Posts: 1975
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Yeah, I had that assy confused with the pump plunger assy.. I was taking apart the pump plunger when the pump discharge assy sproinged out.. I thought it came out of the same hole but I've found that it doesn't.. I'm getting to the bottom of it gradually but yeah, dreading the linkages bit Anybody out there have a spring you want to part with?? Or a roached out carby you want to get out of your shed??
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coily96

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 Posted: Wed Aug 14, 2013 8:53 pm |
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I found a range of springs usefull for carbys at mitre 10. Also the left over oring could be for the end of the idle solenoid.
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Marko_SJ
Joined: Tue Jan 17, 2012 1:40 am Posts: 2979 Location: Darwin, NT
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 Posted: Wed Aug 14, 2013 10:28 pm |
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coily96 wrote: I found a range of springs usefull for carbys at mitre 10. Also the left over oring could be for the end of the idle solenoid. I found box of springs at a place called darwin bolt supplies, but it isn't much help to him. Possibly try any hardware shop.
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bumstein

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Joined: Sat Oct 06, 2012 5:49 pm Posts: 1975
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I could definitely search for a spring but I don't know what size/length/strength to look for.. Trying to find a clapped out carby that I can strip for one.. Anyone have a dead one laying around?? And yep!! The spare o-ring is from the idle solenoid!! Thanks coily, you picked it like a dirt nose 
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coily96

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Not that you need the solenoid anyway, mines fine without it
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bumstein

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Joined: Sat Oct 06, 2012 5:49 pm Posts: 1975
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 Posted: Thu Aug 29, 2013 11:53 am |
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Carby rebuild almost done!! Been away for a while so it's been a bit slow to finish off.. Anyhoo!!! Two parts I haven't this far been able to place  A spring and a bracket.. Attachment: ImageUploadedByTapatalk1377743362.481146.jpg Who wants to play a game of "pin the part on the carby"??
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JrZook
Joined: Tue Aug 08, 2006 11:30 pm Posts: 5517 Location: Holland Park
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 Posted: Thu Aug 29, 2013 12:16 pm |
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Top bracket I believe holds/supports the fuel inlet tube on the top of the carb. The spring I think is for the linkage setup on the secondary. Post up some pics of your carb and I may be able to point it out
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bumstein

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Joined: Sat Oct 06, 2012 5:49 pm Posts: 1975
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 Posted: Thu Aug 29, 2013 2:13 pm |
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Thanks JrZook!! So you think the bracket may fit in here? Attachment: ImageUploadedByTapatalk1377751718.306248.jpg It looks a little off centre to hold the fuel line but plausible.. As for the spring, I recall it fitting somewhere in this conglomeration of confusing shit Attachment: ImageUploadedByTapatalk1377751783.135574.jpg
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JrZook
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I'm pretty sure about the first position. Don't quote me on the second, but I believe the spring goes there to hold the secondary arm up or something. You will have to test that by opening the throttle to WOT then compress the vac pot to open the secondary. Once you let go nothing should bind Attachment: carb1.jpg Attachment: carb2.jpg
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bumstein

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Joined: Sat Oct 06, 2012 5:49 pm Posts: 1975
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 Posted: Thu Aug 29, 2013 2:37 pm |
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Like that?? Attachment: ImageUploadedByTapatalk1377753172.184805.jpg What's a WOT?? Do I need to do that with it installed in the car and running or is a dry bench test ok?
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bumstein

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Joined: Sat Oct 06, 2012 5:49 pm Posts: 1975
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 Posted: Thu Aug 29, 2013 2:38 pm |
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Oh!! WOT = wide open throttle right?? I'm a numpty  lol
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bumstein

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 Posted: Thu Aug 29, 2013 2:40 pm |
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Ok.. Spring there gets in the way of the secondary from closing.. Attachment: ImageUploadedByTapatalk1377753370.911592.jpg
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bumstein

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 Posted: Thu Aug 29, 2013 2:44 pm |
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Right.. Slight variation, the top of the spring is moved to the other hooklike bit.. Make sense?? Attachment: ImageUploadedByTapatalk1377753594.734990.jpg
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JrZook
Joined: Tue Aug 08, 2006 11:30 pm Posts: 5517 Location: Holland Park
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 Posted: Thu Aug 29, 2013 2:47 pm |
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Is there a hook for the spring between the 2 water pipes so the spring is vertical? If so try that. It's been ages since I've played with the stock aisin carb
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bumstein

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Joined: Sat Oct 06, 2012 5:49 pm Posts: 1975
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 Posted: Thu Aug 29, 2013 3:01 pm |
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Yep!! There sure is  far out I hope this works.. Haha Thanks heaps for your help JrZook!! Champion bloke!!
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