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Post Posted: Wed Aug 14, 2013 6:18 pm 
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I've found a 4 point roll bar for sale and I'm just wondering what sought of price I should be paying? From what he could tell me it's made from mild steel tube. The only thing I don't like is that it doesn't have a horizontal bar (for harness attachment) and diagonal brace so ill have to get those added. Apart from that it looks to be in good condition with no rust. Anybody have any idea what I should be offering him?

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Post Posted: Wed Aug 14, 2013 7:15 pm 
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I wouldn't buy a second hand one if you intend to use it for safety purpose's. Just contact Fatzook, let him know what car you have and he will be able to sort you out. Have a look at the last page in my build thread to see some of his work. Top quality and great service. I know this sounds like an ad but really if you are serious and you think you might use it then i would re think a second hand one.

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Post Posted: Wed Aug 14, 2013 7:35 pm 
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Ok, are you saying that because of the fact that you just don't know what your getting with a 2nd hand one as in what the welding is like etc?

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Post Posted: Wed Aug 14, 2013 7:36 pm 
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Haha I don't mind fatzook ads, because his work is top notch from what I've seen!!

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Post Posted: Wed Aug 14, 2013 7:39 pm 
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Yeah he is the shit.

Yeah definately. Depending what you plan on using the cage for like competing in different events you might need one made out of a specific material like Cold Drawn Seamless.

However, if you are only using it for looks you can probably get away with a second hand one if it looks ok.

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Post Posted: Wed Aug 14, 2013 8:46 pm 
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Rollbars aint rollbars :wink:

Do you have any pics of the rollbar? Most 4 points I've seen in sierras would barely qualify as a 'roll bar', and are more along the lines of a sports bar.

Price will depend on design and construction. (material size, grade and how it is welded, and mounted)

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Post Posted: Wed Aug 14, 2013 9:00 pm 
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Those sports bars sure handle a roll well considering what they are :)

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Post Posted: Wed Aug 14, 2013 9:01 pm 
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SierraDan wrote:
Those sports bars sure handle a roll well considering what they are :)



Better than nothing, thats for sure!!

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Post Posted: Wed Aug 14, 2013 9:28 pm 
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Image

best one he had at the time.

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Post Posted: Wed Aug 14, 2013 9:31 pm 
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$150 or less. That is a sports bar.

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Post Posted: Wed Aug 14, 2013 9:33 pm 
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just in interest so that i know what makes it a sports bar is it no diagonal bracing or is it the whole design?

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Post Posted: Wed Aug 14, 2013 9:37 pm 
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Dcraw wrote:
just in interest so that i know what makes it a sports bar is it no diagonal bracing or is it the whole design?



Design, and lack of bracing.

A roll bar will have the backstays attached up the top of the main hoop within 100mm of the bend, and they will be straight, and on no less than a 30 degree angle from verticle. Diagonal bracing through the main hoop is also desirable, preferably starting above drivers head, down to passenger floor.... both points being within 100mm of bend and 100mm of mounting plate respectively.

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Post Posted: Wed Aug 14, 2013 9:52 pm 
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ok well ill have to give you a buzz or swing round to yours one arvy and have a chat on what i want to do and cost etc

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