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Mudmagnet
Joined: Wed Oct 24, 2012 9:16 pm Posts: 12
Vehicle: 1.6 carby Sierra
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 Posted: Tue Sep 03, 2013 9:46 pm |
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am thinking of gettin an auto locker in the rear diff of my zook, i have one in the front and its sick, was wondering what sort of tyre wear you get compared to the original open diff, and another bad side affects
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sideways

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Joined: Fri Oct 29, 2010 1:53 pm Posts: 5935 Location: Northcliffe, W.A.
Vehicle: LJs, Sierra, Jimny, Swift.
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 Posted: Tue Sep 03, 2013 9:52 pm |
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Double the tyre wear because twin spinners!  Nah, pretty much no difference in wear as far as I can tell.
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Mudmagnet
Joined: Wed Oct 24, 2012 9:16 pm Posts: 12
Vehicle: 1.6 carby Sierra
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 Posted: Tue Sep 03, 2013 9:54 pm |
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have you got one in the rear then^^^^ is it sick of road
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pezz

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Joined: Fri May 15, 2009 11:30 pm Posts: 2108 Location: western vic
Vehicle: sj51
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 Posted: Tue Sep 03, 2013 9:58 pm |
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i have a spartin in the back diff, road manners are fine in the lwb tyres look to be wearing good, sure, they would be better with a open center...
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sideways

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Joined: Fri Oct 29, 2010 1:53 pm Posts: 5935 Location: Northcliffe, W.A.
Vehicle: LJs, Sierra, Jimny, Swift.
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 Posted: Tue Sep 03, 2013 10:01 pm |
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Mudmagnet wrote: have you got one in the rear then^^^^ is it sick of road Yep. It's fully sik.
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shandy92

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Joined: Tue Nov 25, 2008 10:30 pm Posts: 5066 Location: perth, Australia
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 Posted: Tue Sep 03, 2013 10:59 pm |
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had one in the rear for almost 50,000km almost no difference in tyre wear, BUT in saying that it depends on how its set up. if its really tight, then it will chirp the tyres more and wear out things faster.
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Charlie Brown

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Joined: Mon Feb 27, 2012 12:09 pm Posts: 333
Vehicle: Vit
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 Posted: Wed Sep 04, 2013 12:23 am |
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Shandy do you find it hard when letting out the clutch when starting in first to not let it bang because of the slack in the driveline? Idn mine might need to be tightened  but there is definitely an art to it!
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shandy92

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Joined: Tue Nov 25, 2008 10:30 pm Posts: 5066 Location: perth, Australia
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 Posted: Wed Sep 04, 2013 11:59 pm |
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Charlie Brown wrote: Shandy do you find it hard when letting out the clutch when starting in first to not let it bang because of the slack in the driveline? Idn mine might need to be tightened  but there is definitely an art to it! Hey mate, yeah i kind of do, it takes a bit of prac. Like you said its just taking up the slack. Just need to release it slowly and its fine. Other wise getting it re-shimmed would help.
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Charlie Brown

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Joined: Mon Feb 27, 2012 12:09 pm Posts: 333
Vehicle: Vit
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 Posted: Thu Sep 05, 2013 11:13 pm |
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Thought about it... Then ny grandpa got in and drove it no problems he said it was like driving the old trucks he used to lol. One other thing sometimes if I put my foot on the clutch for a low speed really tight corner (like a driveway or car park) it doesn't rellease and I can hear it jolting around this only happens very rarely though... Has that happened to you? Thanks mate just trying to work out what's 'normal' lol
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shandy92

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Joined: Tue Nov 25, 2008 10:30 pm Posts: 5066 Location: perth, Australia
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 Posted: Thu Sep 05, 2013 11:26 pm |
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yep does that to, i have found that when it starts to do that, pop it into neutral and release the clutch and it would stop jolting. just one of the joys of own a auto locked car ahah
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303zuke

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Joined: Wed Aug 19, 2009 11:30 pm Posts: 2447
Vehicle: LJ50V, SJ70
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sideways wrote: Mudmagnet wrote: have you got one in the rear then^^^^ is it sick of road Yep. It's fully sik. Very sick of roads, thats why he uses it on dirt tracks. (Hey Hayden, ya Noob, did ya mate get his Def Ute?) 
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Charlie Brown

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Joined: Mon Feb 27, 2012 12:09 pm Posts: 333
Vehicle: Vit
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 Posted: Sun Sep 08, 2013 10:09 am |
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Ok sweet ill give that a go thanks shandy! And mud magnet I can only talk for a vitara but I think you'd be better off spending the bit extra for a chinasoong I'm not sure thought, it's great having it off road but its my daily driver, I love it sometimes and hate it others! Been trying to find a steel diff close to adelaide so. Could chuck it in the front then only use it when I'm 4x4!
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Charlie Brown

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Joined: Mon Feb 27, 2012 12:09 pm Posts: 333
Vehicle: Vit
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 Posted: Sun Sep 08, 2013 10:10 am |
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Another think I think I'd try a spartan locker next time as well some guys on here have found they work better than lock rights after having both...
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larry
Joined: Wed Sep 08, 2010 3:15 am Posts: 657 Location: penrith, NSW
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ive blown up a lockright and i blew up my spartan on friday it will compromise handling on road with all of the above comments ^ being common behaviour. you do learn to live with it but you'll never grow to like it. offroad they work a treat always works when it should and makes it 2x more capable until it breaks
good for the money, im never getting another.
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SierraDan

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Joined: Fri Feb 04, 2011 10:55 pm Posts: 9348 Location: Newcastle
Vehicle: G13BB Jimny
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 Posted: Sun Sep 08, 2013 11:56 am |
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I've had Spartans and Lockrights.
Spartan was tight from the start and took a while to bed in and start unlocking. Then it became loose and shit. I shimmed it up and it was great, had no issues until i sold it.
I now have lockrights. They worked from the start with a thin shim on each side gear and havent changed since. Drives fine. No complaints. Would buy again and again.
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sideways

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Joined: Fri Oct 29, 2010 1:53 pm Posts: 5935 Location: Northcliffe, W.A.
Vehicle: LJs, Sierra, Jimny, Swift.
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SierraDan wrote: I've had Spartans and Lockrights.
Spartan was tight from the start and took a while to bed in and start unlocking. Then it became loose and shit. I shimmed it up and it was great, had no issues until i sold it.
I friend of mine had a spartan in his Sierra that did exactly the same thing.
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SierraDan

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Joined: Fri Feb 04, 2011 10:55 pm Posts: 9348 Location: Newcastle
Vehicle: G13BB Jimny
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 Posted: Sun Sep 08, 2013 1:03 pm |
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I wouldnt buy a Spartan over a Lockright again. It was a pain in the arse for a fair while. When I chuck a 4.6 gearset into my front diff ill chuck some shims in so then the front end shouldn't have to come apart for a very long time.
I will be buying a Lockright for my Vitara rear end also.
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larry
Joined: Wed Sep 08, 2010 3:15 am Posts: 657 Location: penrith, NSW
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 Posted: Sun Sep 08, 2013 6:53 pm |
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turns out my spartan didnt blow up, it was a snapped axle which then chewed the diff gears. so ill be reinstalling the spartan in a new rear diff
still dont think id buy another one especially with options like Chinese airlockers available for not much more. at least if that fucks up you have an open diff not 1wd or nothing
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SierraDan

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Joined: Fri Feb 04, 2011 10:55 pm Posts: 9348 Location: Newcastle
Vehicle: G13BB Jimny
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 Posted: Sun Sep 08, 2013 10:34 pm |
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Arent the Chingpoong lockers triple the cost of an auto locker?
I was lucky and got my lockers on special. Two Lockrights for about $250.
The chingpoong lockers actually break properly. Not just fail to operate. Have seen a couple of cracked/flogged out ones.
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HarryHoudini
Joined: Fri Jul 01, 2011 12:34 am Posts: 359 Location: Northern NSW Australia.
Vehicle: Coily.
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atari4x4

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Joined: Mon Dec 11, 2006 10:30 pm Posts: 34842 Location: East Radelayed
Vehicle: SV420+SV620 Vitara's
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 Posted: Mon Sep 09, 2013 9:20 am |
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don't waste your money...
have a search for phantom grip on here. the only thing they'll firmly have a grip on, is the money out of your wallet.
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sideways

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Joined: Fri Oct 29, 2010 1:53 pm Posts: 5935 Location: Northcliffe, W.A.
Vehicle: LJs, Sierra, Jimny, Swift.
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 Posted: Mon Sep 09, 2013 9:22 am |
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Phantom grip is an amusingly appropriate name.
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