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tanshi

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Posted: Wed Oct 30, 2013 12:48 pm

IM looking at replacing all the non winscreen windows in a jeep to Lexan.

Anything i should watch out for.? also does anything know a cheap hookup or at least what a good price is?

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Posted: Wed Oct 30, 2013 1:32 pm

Polycarbonate is what you want, lexan is brittle and can shatter

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Posted: Wed Oct 30, 2013 1:38 pm

shep wrote:

Polycarbonate is what you want, lexan is brittle and can shatter

Aren't they one and the same? i.e. Lexan is a type of polycarbonate?

I know what you are saying though. I have had lexan in drag cars before, but a drag car doesn't get knocked around anywhere near as much as a 4x4. Perhaps acrylic would be a better choice?

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Posted: Wed Oct 30, 2013 1:41 pm

Sorry gotta bit mixed up. Lexan is a brand of polycarbonate.

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tanshi

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Posted: Wed Oct 30, 2013 1:52 pm

lexan is used in bullet proof prison walls in QLD

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Posted: Wed Oct 30, 2013 2:14 pm

There would be different grades.
I'm sure the bullet proof stuff would cost a fuck load.

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Posted: Wed Oct 30, 2013 2:15 pm

yes, its also 12-16mm thick. the point is its not fragile

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Posted: Wed Oct 30, 2013 2:22 pm

tanshi wrote:

yes, its also 12-16mm thick. the point is its not fragile

Definitely not fragile. But it's not particularly "bendy".

Compared to glass it is superior in almost every way, however (price being the most obvious difference).

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Posted: Wed Oct 30, 2013 2:29 pm

It scratches very easily and if on a road car can cause issues with road crash rescue

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Posted: Wed Oct 30, 2013 2:40 pm

Its for the race jeep (unregisteres), it wont be on the drivers door or passenger door so no issues with crash rescue.

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Posted: Wed Oct 30, 2013 3:58 pm

Poly scratches VERY easily and will be so bad that eventually you won't see clearly through it.
Check out old boat windscreens.

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Posted: Wed Oct 30, 2013 4:05 pm

what about a layer of clear contact over it that can be replaced every few months

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Posted: Wed Oct 30, 2013 4:08 pm

Yep scratches easy. I bought a front poly window for a sierra few years ago.
was about $200 so quite expensive. Destroyed it by putting my window wipers on.

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Posted: Wed Oct 30, 2013 4:13 pm

tanshi wrote:

what about a layer of clear contact over it that can be replaced every few months

http://www.quickpeel.com.au/

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Posted: Wed Oct 30, 2013 4:34 pm

atari4x4 wrote:

tanshi wrote:

what about a layer of clear contact over it that can be replaced every few months

http://www.quickpeel.com.au/

sounds expensive

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Posted: Wed Oct 30, 2013 4:50 pm

Lexan is used in many offroad cars.

I think i saw the V8 super cars peel their windscreens off a couple of times during Bathurst.

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Posted: Wed Oct 30, 2013 5:12 pm

Polycarbonate isn't very UV stable. We found this out with the trolley tug, which had polycarbonate flares for a while until they pretty much exploded from UV exposure. There is coated product which is better but IIRC it's only coated on one side. There is also product with a scratch resistant coating, again, I think only on one side. The scratch resistant coating adds quite a lot to the cost too.

Window tint film is quite scratch resistant, so some light film on the inside will help if you use scratch resistant polycarb with the scratch resistant side on the outside.

Just some thoughts. Poly windows look pretty rough quick in a car that goes bush.

Steve.

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Posted: Wed Oct 30, 2013 5:14 pm

Thanks Steve very useful

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Posted: Wed Oct 30, 2013 5:24 pm

paid $280 18 months ago to replace the sides and rear window on the Sierra, didn't really shop around so could probably be got cheaper, scratches very easily, the rear is about 4mm or so and is held in by the rubber seal and is quite solid, the sides were only about 3mm and the way they mount means they flex a fair bit.

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Posted: Thu Oct 31, 2013 8:25 am

i wonder about clear ish window tint film for outside where its most likely to get scratched.

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Posted: Thu Oct 31, 2013 10:35 am

just get some clear UV window tint solves the UV problem and its clear so you can see through it

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Posted: Thu Oct 31, 2013 11:34 am

Why not just weld in some mesh and don't worry about windows?

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tanshi

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Posted: Thu Oct 31, 2013 12:47 pm

that has been considered aswell. just looking at all options

just_cruizin

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Posted: Fri Nov 01, 2013 6:49 am

What are windscreens for crappy jeeps worth??

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Makes me want something similar

tanshi

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Posted: Fri Nov 01, 2013 6:53 am

Cheap ish.

just_cruizin

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Posted: Fri Nov 01, 2013 3:53 pm

Why bother then, mine took a hell of a lot of punishment before it was unusable

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Makes me want something similar

tanshi

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Posted: Fri Nov 01, 2013 4:00 pm

we wouldnt be swapping out the windscreen any way. only the 3 windows down the sides and the rear tailgate window.

alot of the reason we considered it is weight. 30 kgs of glass up that high is a fair bit.

we might just pull it out and have thin plastic sheet to press stud on and keep the weather out.

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Posted: Fri Nov 01, 2013 7:16 pm

Just ditch it and don't have anything

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Makes me want something similar

kenn

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Posted: Sat Nov 02, 2013 6:27 pm

This is the stuff I used

To do this

Got this stuff from Bunnings a few years ago so I don't know if they still stock it.
I used the clear stuff on the top to let some light in and the grey on the sides.

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Posted: Mon Nov 04, 2013 7:13 am

It's a rally, just run it. If you're looking out the back you're doing it wrong

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