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burls

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Joined: Sun Mar 07, 2010 10:30 pm Posts: 989 Location: Ipswich
Vehicle: 95 sj70 and 78 lj81
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 Posted: Wed Jan 15, 2014 8:48 am |
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On Sunday we were on our way to Fraser and my daughters 2002 Jimny suffered engine problems. Symptoms were initial very gutless on the hills then finally it just would even take off at the lights. We ended up getting RACQ who put it done to the cat, due to time constraints we parked the car at relatives and loaded all the gear into the other cars and went on our merry way.
My question is has anyone had similar issues and what was the fixes. If it is the cat what is the best exhaust system to upgrade to.
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tanshi

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Joined: Tue Jan 09, 2007 10:30 pm Posts: 7717 Location: Brisbane
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 Posted: Wed Jan 15, 2014 8:59 am |
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it could be a million things with that info.
running rough? could be map sensor. cam sensor.
its it showing an check engine light?
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Scrawny

I live here!
Joined: Tue Jan 29, 2008 10:30 pm Posts: 10528 Location: Brissie
Vehicle: Popemobile
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 Posted: Wed Jan 15, 2014 9:15 am |
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Zukenutter had issues with his cat. I'm sure he'll be along shortly.
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droverdave
Joined: Wed Dec 19, 2012 7:43 am Posts: 685
Vehicle: 85 ' Drover
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 Posted: Wed Jan 15, 2014 9:27 am |
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Well if the catalytic converter has calapsed, or there is an incling that it might have, you're only option is to pull it out and inspect.
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Jezza86

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Joined: Tue Dec 06, 2011 9:30 am Posts: 2155 Location: Nhulunbuy 0880
Vehicle: 2010 jimny
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go for a drive runing it streight out the extractors. take some heat off the bikies. if your keen on a upgrade you can get extractors off ebay or go to a zaust shop and get 2" or if they have it 48mm. a 1.3 wont be able to use a 2" and i reckon oversize exhausts cause some loss in torque from back pressure scavenging cylinders, as per some dyno's done over time.
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zukenutter

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Joined: Sun Feb 08, 2009 10:30 pm Posts: 9045 Location: Brisneyland
Vehicle: 2006 Jimny JLX
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 Posted: Wed Jan 15, 2014 4:27 pm |
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My old Jimny had a cat issue like this. Get underneath and bash the muffler with the palm of your hand. If it sounds like there's loose stuff floating around in there the cat has probably collapsed and been blown through into the muffler. Mine had exactly the same symptoms, over a couple of hours it got more and more sluggish as more of the cat broke away and flowed into the muffler. Luckily with a bit of thumping on the muffler the blockage dislodged enough to get home.
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zukenutter

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Joined: Sun Feb 08, 2009 10:30 pm Posts: 9045 Location: Brisneyland
Vehicle: 2006 Jimny JLX
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 Posted: Wed Jan 15, 2014 4:33 pm |
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Ask your daughter if it has back fired at all while she's had it.
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burls

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Joined: Sun Mar 07, 2010 10:30 pm Posts: 989 Location: Ipswich
Vehicle: 95 sj70 and 78 lj81
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 Posted: Wed Jan 15, 2014 7:16 pm |
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Thanks all for your input, sorry for the lack of info, it has been running fine with no back firing at all, no engine light and no other symptoms except it did exactly the same as zukenutter. The cat does rattle when you hit it so might be on the right track there.
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zukenutter

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Joined: Sun Feb 08, 2009 10:30 pm Posts: 9045 Location: Brisneyland
Vehicle: 2006 Jimny JLX
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 Posted: Wed Jan 15, 2014 9:19 pm |
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Bump the muffler, that's probably where any blockage will be. Could have backfired with the previous owner or it could just be that the cat disintegrated with age.
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burls

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Joined: Sun Mar 07, 2010 10:30 pm Posts: 989 Location: Ipswich
Vehicle: 95 sj70 and 78 lj81
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 Posted: Thu Jan 16, 2014 7:36 am |
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Thanks
Car is on the north side until we get back from Fraser we'll drop the muffler and see if we can get it home that way
If it turns out to be the exhaust, what would be the best options? It has standard fitted and we don't need anything hi performance or loud
Last edited by burls on Thu Jan 16, 2014 8:29 am, edited 1 time in total.
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zukenutter

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Joined: Sun Feb 08, 2009 10:30 pm Posts: 9045 Location: Brisneyland
Vehicle: 2006 Jimny JLX
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 Posted: Thu Jan 16, 2014 7:41 am |
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At the time I replaced mine with a sport muffler but a good exhaust shop will be able to suggest something
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burls

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Joined: Sun Mar 07, 2010 10:30 pm Posts: 989 Location: Ipswich
Vehicle: 95 sj70 and 78 lj81
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 Posted: Fri Jan 17, 2014 9:32 am |
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What year range would the exhaust have to be from if we went second hand (or new) or doesn't it matter?
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zukenutter

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Joined: Sun Feb 08, 2009 10:30 pm Posts: 9045 Location: Brisneyland
Vehicle: 2006 Jimny JLX
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 Posted: Fri Jan 17, 2014 9:51 am |
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Anything from 2001 onward should fit
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burls

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Joined: Sun Mar 07, 2010 10:30 pm Posts: 989 Location: Ipswich
Vehicle: 95 sj70 and 78 lj81
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 Posted: Mon Jan 20, 2014 5:31 pm |
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We got the rig home today and I split the exhaust behind the cat. Surprise surprise ---- blocked as.
So new question as we have time and logistic constraints can we just shake the rest of the crap out and drive on like this until we get time etc to get a new zorst fitted
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droverdave
Joined: Wed Dec 19, 2012 7:43 am Posts: 685
Vehicle: 85 ' Drover
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 Posted: Mon Jan 20, 2014 5:40 pm |
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I'd gut the cat and bolt it back up. Then sort it out when you get home.
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Wazz
Joined: Sun Apr 17, 2011 7:27 am Posts: 210 Location: Keilor
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Yer smash it all out but don't inhale or touch any of the dust.
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burls

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Joined: Sun Mar 07, 2010 10:30 pm Posts: 989 Location: Ipswich
Vehicle: 95 sj70 and 78 lj81
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 Posted: Mon Jan 20, 2014 7:14 pm |
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Dave we're already home, we just need a bit more time and need to usee the car. I was thinking if we unblock the exhaust we could get away with driving it for a while until we have found the best solution
Last edited by burls on Mon Jan 20, 2014 7:34 pm, edited 1 time in total.
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tanshi

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Joined: Tue Jan 09, 2007 10:30 pm Posts: 7717 Location: Brisbane
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Yes just dont get pulled over
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zukenutter

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Joined: Sun Feb 08, 2009 10:30 pm Posts: 9045 Location: Brisneyland
Vehicle: 2006 Jimny JLX
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 Posted: Mon Jan 20, 2014 7:46 pm |
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If you can get as much as you can out of there you may get lucky
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burls

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Joined: Sun Mar 07, 2010 10:30 pm Posts: 989 Location: Ipswich
Vehicle: 95 sj70 and 78 lj81
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 Posted: Mon Jan 20, 2014 7:52 pm |
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Been researching tonight but can't find enough info on what fits etc. we have also had trouble getting it off because of the corroded nuts and bolts. I have soaked them and will try tomorrow.
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zukenutter

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Joined: Sun Feb 08, 2009 10:30 pm Posts: 9045 Location: Brisneyland
Vehicle: 2006 Jimny JLX
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 Posted: Mon Jan 20, 2014 8:53 pm |
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Yeah those bolts get pretty nasty
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kenn
Joined: Tue Nov 11, 2008 10:30 pm Posts: 1202 Location: Melbourne
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Loctite freeze release or Wurth make one aswell and with the muffler, another trick is to heat up the nut and then hold an ice cube or two on the end of the bolt. I'd hose it out to keep the dust down.
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burls

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Joined: Sun Mar 07, 2010 10:30 pm Posts: 989 Location: Ipswich
Vehicle: 95 sj70 and 78 lj81
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 Posted: Thu Jan 23, 2014 8:33 am |
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Thanks I have managed to get it all out with no damage to bolts flanges etc. the cat is all through the pipe and some in the muffler. The plan is to replace the cat with a hi flow 2" and try and get the remaining bits out of the muffler put it all back together and see how it goes. Should keep the cost down to about $80
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zukenutter

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Joined: Sun Feb 08, 2009 10:30 pm Posts: 9045 Location: Brisneyland
Vehicle: 2006 Jimny JLX
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fingers crossed for you. At least it was easy to find the problem.
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burls

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Joined: Sun Mar 07, 2010 10:30 pm Posts: 989 Location: Ipswich
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Yeah looks like most of it was caught at the first join after the cat. I've got the new cat and most of the crap out of the muffler http://trrautoparts.com.au/catalytic-co ... t-400-cellTomorrow weather depending we will glue it all back together and see how it goes. Couldn't be worse right? Just out of interest what are the cats made of or why is the dust bad?
Last edited by burls on Sat Jan 25, 2014 11:43 am, edited 1 time in total.
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zukenutter

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Joined: Sun Feb 08, 2009 10:30 pm Posts: 9045 Location: Brisneyland
Vehicle: 2006 Jimny JLX
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 Posted: Fri Jan 24, 2014 9:33 pm |
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Exhaust carbon build up is carcinogenic.
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Jezza86

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Joined: Tue Dec 06, 2011 9:30 am Posts: 2155 Location: Nhulunbuy 0880
Vehicle: 2010 jimny
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 Posted: Fri Jan 24, 2014 10:02 pm |
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platnum, rhodium, and iorn are the catalysts.
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burls

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Joined: Sun Mar 07, 2010 10:30 pm Posts: 989 Location: Ipswich
Vehicle: 95 sj70 and 78 lj81
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 Posted: Sun Jan 26, 2014 8:55 am |
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Well the Jimny is back together with the new cat. I have maybe a new problem or it could be related or was there before and that is the idle seems a bit low and the engine starts running a bit rough. Just got to work out if it is low and how to tweak it
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zukenutter

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Joined: Sun Feb 08, 2009 10:30 pm Posts: 9045 Location: Brisneyland
Vehicle: 2006 Jimny JLX
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 Posted: Mon Jan 27, 2014 7:40 am |
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Could new some new coil packs, that's what destroyed my cat. Engine had been missing a bit and running rough. How long has your daughter owned the Jim? Do the packs look like originals OEM?
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zukenutter

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Joined: Sun Feb 08, 2009 10:30 pm Posts: 9045 Location: Brisneyland
Vehicle: 2006 Jimny JLX
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 Posted: Mon Jan 27, 2014 7:43 am |
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Also could be the common crank angle sensor or cam angle sensor. Usually will be fine around town apart from high fuel consumption but when it sits at highway speed it will cut out after 20 mins or so.
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