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narrowzooker
Joined: Thu Jan 23, 2014 9:00 pm Posts: 320 Location: ARMADALE
Vehicle: 85 holden drover
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 Posted: Thu Jan 23, 2014 9:52 pm |
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Was wondering if a 1.3 engine and gear box would fit into a 1983 1liter 4 speed manual sierra
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Gwagensteve
Joined: Thu Feb 26, 2009 10:30 pm Posts: 13007 Location: Melbourne
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Yes but not with out fabrication.
Steve.
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sideways

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Joined: Fri Oct 29, 2010 1:53 pm Posts: 5936 Location: Northcliffe, W.A.
Vehicle: LJs, Sierra, Jimny, Swift.
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You'l have to cut the engine mounts off and weld new ones on. For the gearbox you have to make up a new mount and possibly enlarge the tunnel a little (it seems some people need to do this and others don't, probably depends on your mounting setup). You'l need a 1.3l bonnet, air box and jack shaft too. Obviously it's advisable to fit the 1.3l radiator, that takes a bit of work too.
IMO a carby 1.3l is not a worthwhile conversion. I've never driven a 1.3l sierra that was quicker or kept speed up hills as well as my (stock) 1l, a 1l does have a significant weight advantage though (I haven't driven a 1.3l engine in a 1l but it would perform much better with the weight and gearing advantage). The 1l makes up the 15hp disadvantage with lower gearing and by being very rev happy. The advantages to the 1.3l swap are a 15% lower first gear, quieter/lower revving engine and the gearing is suitable for larger tyres. On the minus side, it's a ton of work for something that is basically no faster, you'l have a carby that is worse on angles and far less reliable and you'l need to get it engineered.
I reckon step up to a G13bb or G16b (which need all the same work as a carby 1.3l, plus the EFI gear) or just keep the 1l.
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JrZook
Joined: Tue Aug 08, 2006 11:30 pm Posts: 5517 Location: Holland Park
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sideways wrote: I've never driven a 1.3l sierra that was quicker or kept speed up hills as well as my (stock) 1l, Must have driven some bucket 1.3l sierras 
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Marko_SJ
Joined: Tue Jan 17, 2012 1:40 am Posts: 2979 Location: Darwin, NT
Vehicle: WT sierra, GU CRD
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 Posted: Fri Jan 24, 2014 4:11 pm |
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sideways wrote: You'l have to cut the engine mounts off and weld new ones on. For the gearbox you have to make up a new mount and possibly enlarge the tunnel a little (it seems some people need to do this and others don't, probably depends on your mounting setup). You'l need a 1.3l bonnet, air box and jack shaft too. Obviously it's advisable to fit the 1.3l radiator, that takes a bit of work too.
IMO a carby 1.3l is not a worthwhile conversion. I've never driven a 1.3l sierra that was quicker or kept speed up hills as well as my (stock) 1l, a 1l does have a significant weight advantage though (I haven't driven a 1.3l engine in a 1l but it would perform much better with the weight and gearing advantage). The 1l makes up the 15hp disadvantage with lower gearing and by being very rev happy. The advantages to the 1.3l swap are a 15% lower first gear, quieter/lower revving engine and the gearing is suitable for larger tyres. On the minus side, it's a ton of work for something that is basically no faster, you'l have a carby that is worse on angles and far less reliable and you'l need to get it engineered.
I reckon step up to a G13bb or G16b (which need all the same work as a carby 1.3l, plus the EFI gear) or just keep the 1l. I'd like to see a good 1 litre in comparison to a good 1.3. My experience of a one litre was different to yours, I must say.
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sideways

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Joined: Fri Oct 29, 2010 1:53 pm Posts: 5936 Location: Northcliffe, W.A.
Vehicle: LJs, Sierra, Jimny, Swift.
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JrZook wrote: sideways wrote: I've never driven a 1.3l sierra that was quicker or kept speed up hills as well as my (stock) 1l, Must have driven some bucket 1.3l sierras  Yep, and a really good one. I've been in a number of nice ones too. There's plenty of posts on here that reflect my experiences.  Having said that, a WT Maruti is one of the slowest vehicles I've been in.
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narrowzooker
Joined: Thu Jan 23, 2014 9:00 pm Posts: 320 Location: ARMADALE
Vehicle: 85 holden drover
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Well the 1 litre i bought for 3200 and it runs perfect and no leaks of anykind the only thing it dose have is a rust hole on the left wheel arch but im buying a full front clip for it its a wide track front clip from a 1990 model will it fit onto a narrow track?
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Marko_SJ
Joined: Tue Jan 17, 2012 1:40 am Posts: 2979 Location: Darwin, NT
Vehicle: WT sierra, GU CRD
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A widetrack maruti is my 1 litre experience, oh and a hardtop I nearly bought. Still reckon the 1.3 is a better package although 1 litres have extra awesome.
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