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dank
Joined: Sat Apr 05, 2008 10:30 pm Posts: 1157 Location: VIC
Vehicle: WR250F/Jeep XJ
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 Posted: Thu Aug 20, 2009 4:08 am |
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Ok well the bloody 20v 4age intake plenum is a massive thing designed to get even volume of air to all 4 individual throttle bodies.
I've dumped the body back on my zook and what I suspected has eventuated. The air intake plenum hits the master cylinder brake line outlet.
Not good.
This shows the intake assembly intact without the master cylinder:
This shows the bottom half of the plenum with one of the intake trumpets in place to show the clearance.
The obvious way to go is to get a custom intake plenum fabbed up which is no real problem but I am hoping to keep it as stock as possible as toyota obviously designed the intake in that fashion for certain reasons. Mucking around with the length of the trumpets starts causing differences in the torque curve of the motor. As far as my research goes the shorter the trumpet the higher the torque curve peaks towards higher rpm, losing any low end torque that the engine may have...which is not much at all in the first place.
My question is, does anyone know of a master cylinder that will bolt up that has the line inputs on the drivers side, top or bottom? this will give me room to run the standard intake.
I have heard forester? not sure on outputs though...
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dank
Joined: Sat Apr 05, 2008 10:30 pm Posts: 1157 Location: VIC
Vehicle: WR250F/Jeep XJ
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 Posted: Thu Aug 20, 2009 4:51 am |
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royce

omnipotent being
Joined: Sun Jun 11, 2006 11:30 pm Posts: 17216 Location: Pluto
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 Posted: Thu Aug 20, 2009 11:40 am |
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ditch the booster and fit a remote one under the dash?
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joeblow
Joined: Sat May 10, 2008 11:30 pm Posts: 3273 Location: melbourne
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suzuki swift. has the lines on the other side and even comes with a remote res.

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dank
Joined: Sat Apr 05, 2008 10:30 pm Posts: 1157 Location: VIC
Vehicle: WR250F/Jeep XJ
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 Posted: Thu Aug 20, 2009 5:11 pm |
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what year swift Joe? is it across the board 94-99?
Is this the one?

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joeblow
Joined: Sat May 10, 2008 11:30 pm Posts: 3273 Location: melbourne
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 Posted: Thu Aug 20, 2009 5:22 pm |
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the one in you're pic could be used if the reservoir is ok where it is. the one in kenns from memory is from an earlier type, the square model also sold as barina.
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dank
Joined: Sat Apr 05, 2008 10:30 pm Posts: 1157 Location: VIC
Vehicle: WR250F/Jeep XJ
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 Posted: Thu Aug 20, 2009 5:26 pm |
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The remote reservoir one would be ideal as I think I will require a little more room looking at it last night.
You don't have any better pics of it?
Thanks for your help. 
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joeblow
Joined: Sat May 10, 2008 11:30 pm Posts: 3273 Location: melbourne
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thats about all i have. kenn may have something better. if you plane on 4 wheel discs that booster should be fine depending on calipers used. if you want a better stop and lighter pedal feel use the booster from an h20 or j20.
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atari4x4

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Joined: Mon Dec 11, 2006 10:30 pm Posts: 34842 Location: East Radelayed
Vehicle: SV420+SV620 Vitara's
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 Posted: Thu Aug 20, 2009 6:16 pm |
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Fatzook

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Joined: Sat Oct 27, 2007 11:30 pm Posts: 14977 Location: The Hills
Vehicle: Vitara, NGV
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 Posted: Thu Aug 20, 2009 6:36 pm |
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GTI booster and master cyl works well too. Very small compared to sierra one. Works very well with the GZE conv.
Peter
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eldo

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Joined: Sat May 30, 2009 11:30 pm Posts: 2770 Location: sunny coast
Vehicle: jimny
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sorry for the hijack, but i am looking for a booster to power my hilux axles/brakes, what out there bolts on and would be considered an upgrade rather than space saving
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hutch

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Joined: Sun Nov 30, 2008 10:30 pm Posts: 1213 Location: SW Bris
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 Posted: Thu Aug 20, 2009 8:00 pm |
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joeblow wrote: suzuki swift. has the lines on the other side and even comes with a remote res. 
ooo ooo is that an LJ... more details/pics plz! 
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joeblow
Joined: Sat May 10, 2008 11:30 pm Posts: 3273 Location: melbourne
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 Posted: Thu Aug 20, 2009 8:21 pm |
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is plenty pics in rigs....................'KENNS LJ'.
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steak_knife

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Joined: Fri May 22, 2009 11:30 pm Posts: 21335 Location: Smart Ass Island
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When I had a 4age spook my booster went in the bin, worst thing i did to that
car. the trumpets can be turned upside down miss Jane & put socks on em. thay WILL rub on the bonnet
As for bottom end torque, the 20v`s don`t come into power till 4 1/2 thou so your not going to lose much even if you remove them.
joeblow is on the money with swift, i ran 1 un boosted.
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steak_knife

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Joined: Fri May 22, 2009 11:30 pm Posts: 21335 Location: Smart Ass Island
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 Posted: Thu Aug 20, 2009 10:54 pm |
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P.s you have to strip the plenum off the intake.
EDIT: for socks that is.
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dank
Joined: Sat Apr 05, 2008 10:30 pm Posts: 1157 Location: VIC
Vehicle: WR250F/Jeep XJ
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 Posted: Fri Aug 21, 2009 2:32 am |
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Yeah maybe in brisbane socks would be ok on flipped standard trumpets...but far out this is Victoria....we have mud....sometimes....There is absolutely no way I would run an open intake. Your are just asking to murder the motor down here.
I'm am going to hunt down a swift/barine remote reservoir one. plannign on using vitara lwb front rotors and calipers and sierra front rotors and calipers in rear with a trail tough caliper kit I got off Bad_zook.
Gotta get the thing running first......
Thanks for the input fellas much appreciated.
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steak_knife

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Joined: Fri May 22, 2009 11:30 pm Posts: 21335 Location: Smart Ass Island
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Thay do run better with the box, we got plenty of mud, it`s just under our rivers.
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Fatzook

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Joined: Sat Oct 27, 2007 11:30 pm Posts: 14977 Location: The Hills
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 Posted: Fri Aug 21, 2009 12:57 pm |
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Another option, although it ios more work, would be to move the motor across.....
Its been done before with no ill effect.
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Pubic

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Joined: Sat Feb 23, 2008 10:30 pm Posts: 1303
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just so happens the bloke across the street is aprting otu his square model swift gti
pm me dank with your number or email and we can sort it out!
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kenn
Joined: Tue Nov 11, 2008 10:30 pm Posts: 1202 Location: Melbourne
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dank
Joined: Sat Apr 05, 2008 10:30 pm Posts: 1157 Location: VIC
Vehicle: WR250F/Jeep XJ
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 Posted: Sun Aug 23, 2009 11:43 pm |
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Thanks Kenn!!!!!!
That looks perfect for my application. I might go and hunt one down.
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Built4thrashing
Joined: Wed May 21, 2008 11:30 pm Posts: 4972 Location: Dandenong .Vic
Vehicle: 1999 GV. Locked and Lifted
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 Posted: Mon Aug 24, 2009 12:24 am |
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where is the booster??? Will it bolt up to the sierra booster.
B4T
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joeblow
Joined: Sat May 10, 2008 11:30 pm Posts: 3273 Location: melbourne
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Kenn runs a 'stealth' booster. 
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steak_knife

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Joined: Fri May 22, 2009 11:30 pm Posts: 21335 Location: Smart Ass Island
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 Posted: Mon Aug 24, 2009 10:30 pm |
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this any good?? pootrol clutch booster. a swift master should bolt up
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