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ZookiBoi
Joined: Fri Dec 09, 2011 10:10 am Posts: 79 Location: Bundaberg Queensland
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 Posted: Tue Mar 25, 2014 10:43 am |
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Hey guys,
Dumb question but if my zook which is a 91 JX starts but you can put it in any gear without engaging the clutch does it mean my clutch has completely crapped itself?
Cheers.
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Jezza86

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Joined: Tue Dec 06, 2011 9:30 am Posts: 2155 Location: Nhulunbuy 0880
Vehicle: 2010 jimny
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 Posted: Tue Mar 25, 2014 11:51 am |
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can you feel the gears engaging> if you go from 5th to reverse does it lock out reverse?
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tanshi

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Joined: Tue Jan 09, 2007 10:30 pm Posts: 7719 Location: Brisbane
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 Posted: Tue Mar 25, 2014 12:13 pm |
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im assuming you have the car running.
sure the gear stick isnt broken?
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Scrawny

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Joined: Tue Jan 29, 2008 10:30 pm Posts: 10528 Location: Brissie
Vehicle: Popemobile
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 Posted: Tue Mar 25, 2014 12:28 pm |
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Sounds like the lining is completely stripped off the clutch plate
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Jezza86

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Joined: Tue Dec 06, 2011 9:30 am Posts: 2155 Location: Nhulunbuy 0880
Vehicle: 2010 jimny
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 Posted: Tue Mar 25, 2014 1:18 pm |
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or the gearbox linkage is buted is where i was going.
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Scrawny

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Joined: Tue Jan 29, 2008 10:30 pm Posts: 10528 Location: Brissie
Vehicle: Popemobile
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 Posted: Tue Mar 25, 2014 1:53 pm |
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Jezza86 wrote: or the gearbox linkage is buted is where i was going. 
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ZookiBoi
Joined: Fri Dec 09, 2011 10:10 am Posts: 79 Location: Bundaberg Queensland
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 Posted: Tue Mar 25, 2014 5:35 pm |
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Yeah clutch is facked. I can easily put it in any gear while running and it doesn't even move.
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2stroker
Joined: Sun Sep 07, 2008 11:30 pm Posts: 2689 Location: North Brisbane
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 Posted: Wed Mar 26, 2014 11:55 am |
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Ok, so you drove home from work and everything was fine, you parked it in the driveway and the next morning it had no gears, that's so bizarre.
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krat
Joined: Wed Nov 09, 2011 3:55 am Posts: 214 Location: Country Victoria
Vehicle: 1995 Vitara, SWB
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2stroker wrote: Ok, so you drove home from work and everything was fine, you parked it in the driveway and the next morning it had no gears, that's so bizarre. I've done a couple of clutches in a Nissan 720 and it didn't happen parked in the driveway. More likely at 6000rpm in heavy sand. I am pretty sure it's not your clutch at fault here. Sounds more like a shifter/ gearbox issue. Without using the clutch pedal, is there any resistance on the gearstick when you change the gears.I would think that if the clutch had shredded you would get bits in the starter motor like I did. Might be worth a look. Does the starter motor still turn the engine over? A broken rear axle in my old holden meant that I could put it in gear, let out the clutch and got no drive. Might be the same for a zook in 2wd. What happens if you put it in 4wd? Just a few suggestions. I'm not a zook expert, but it gives you something to check until a smart person replies. Kev.
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madmacca

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Joined: Fri May 14, 2010 8:46 am Posts: 928 Location: Lesmurdie W.A.
Vehicle: X-90 + Lwb Sierra + DeVitt +++
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 Posted: Wed Mar 26, 2014 3:05 pm |
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check that the clutch cable is moving the clutch fork
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2stroker
Joined: Sun Sep 07, 2008 11:30 pm Posts: 2689 Location: North Brisbane
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 Posted: Wed Mar 26, 2014 6:27 pm |
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Krat, my post was an attempt to get Zookiboi to actually give us some background. It is impossible to diagnose a problem over the internet when someone gives you no background. For all we know he just put the gearbox back in the car and forgot to put a clutch and pressure plate in it.
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Scrawny

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Joined: Tue Jan 29, 2008 10:30 pm Posts: 10528 Location: Brissie
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 Posted: Wed Mar 26, 2014 7:45 pm |
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2stroker wrote: For all we know he just put the gearbox back in the car and forgot to put a clutch and pressure plate in it. Seen that done before! 
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2stroker
Joined: Sun Sep 07, 2008 11:30 pm Posts: 2689 Location: North Brisbane
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Vaughn a while back I bought a yellow I litre hard top from Geebung to wreck out, it had been some blokes long term project, when I got it the car was not running, no exhaust manifold on it. He said it had been a good runner but it had a gearbox issue. When I pulled the engine out and took the box off it had a pressure plate but no clutch plate in it.
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ZookiBoi
Joined: Fri Dec 09, 2011 10:10 am Posts: 79 Location: Bundaberg Queensland
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Ok sorry everyone here is the background. I put new 31 inch tyres on my 1.3 ltr zook. I went back to home and a mate started driving it up the highway. About 500m away from where it was parked it INSTANTANEOUSLY (yeah you like that word) started reving high whilst in 4th gear. My mate then stopped the car. I rocked up and I can shift it into any gear without a crunch while running the vehicle and even put it in like 4wd low. But if i accelerate it just revs and no movement no tailshaft moving or anything put it in reverse and nothing. AND you can smell the clutch burning. Sorry for being vague at the beginning. And no I havent done any gearbox or anything replacements lately. The last thing I have done to it was put a new starter motor in about 3 weeks ago.
Cheers guys and thanks for the help I really appreciate it.
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ZookiBoi
Joined: Fri Dec 09, 2011 10:10 am Posts: 79 Location: Bundaberg Queensland
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 Posted: Wed Mar 26, 2014 10:15 pm |
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Oh and the clutch pedal springs back normally.
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madmacca

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Joined: Fri May 14, 2010 8:46 am Posts: 928 Location: Lesmurdie W.A.
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needs new clutch is my guess given the new info 
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Zook_Fan

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Joined: Thu Mar 13, 2008 10:30 pm Posts: 4530 Location: Toowoomba
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 Posted: Thu Mar 27, 2014 6:54 am |
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You need a new clutch. It was probably slipping before that and the new 31's were too much for it. Get another standard duty clutch
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ZookiBoi
Joined: Fri Dec 09, 2011 10:10 am Posts: 79 Location: Bundaberg Queensland
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 Posted: Thu Mar 27, 2014 7:43 pm |
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So you don't think a heavy duty clutch would be a better option?
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krat
Joined: Wed Nov 09, 2011 3:55 am Posts: 214 Location: Country Victoria
Vehicle: 1995 Vitara, SWB
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New clutch needed . There have been other questions raised about heavy duty clutches in other posts which I am sure you can suss out. I think most views, are that a good quality standard clutch, is the way to go. others have commented that in a lot of cases a heavy duty clutch will mean the breaking of numerous clutch cables. Just more problems. Kev.
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ZookiBoi
Joined: Fri Dec 09, 2011 10:10 am Posts: 79 Location: Bundaberg Queensland
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Thanks for the sound advice everyone 
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pezz

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Joined: Fri May 15, 2009 11:30 pm Posts: 2108 Location: western vic
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 Posted: Fri Mar 28, 2014 9:09 pm |
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now that you have seen what 31's do to a clutch, i'd think its time to regear it to suit 
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henno

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 Posted: Fri Mar 28, 2014 9:23 pm |
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pezz wrote: now that you have seen what mates do to a clutch, i'd think its time to refriend it to suit  Fixed.
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