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jonno_racing

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Joined: Wed Apr 15, 2009 11:30 pm Posts: 8164 Location: Tassie
Vehicle: suzuki
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 Posted: Tue Apr 08, 2014 6:56 pm |
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Ok so been thinking over for a while about my rear axles. they are only stock items running 34inch swampers. Has anyone actually busted a stock N/T axle? i have personally broken 4 or 5 c/p's and but never a axle! no one i know has ever broken one either. so why is there such a huge push for everyone to run floaters? other than a better bearing setup.
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alien
Joined: Wed Mar 24, 2010 10:30 pm Posts: 16343 Location: Perth
Vehicle: '92 Sierra, 1.6efi, SPOA, 31s.
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 Posted: Tue Apr 08, 2014 7:45 pm |
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I chose to run full floater in the back of mine for 3 reasons:
#1 - Reliabiliy: I twisted a rear axle which also had hairline cracks in it - if it had let go out wheeling or on the highway i'd have been proper fucked. At least now if i should break an axle the wheel is supported.
#2 - Strength: Upgraded axle materials plus the floating setup mean its way harder to twist an axle again.
#3 - Rear Discs: No more mud wearing out the shoes, or water giving me a mushy feeling on the pedal. Plus now my handbrake works!!
It was by no means necessary that i run a full floating rear... i could likely have kept stock axles and they'd last another 4-5 years of abuse like the last set... but with the benefits above, and Joeblow offering them at such a reasonable price it was a no brainer.
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SierraDan

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Joined: Fri Feb 04, 2011 10:55 pm Posts: 9348 Location: Newcastle
Vehicle: G13BB Jimny
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 Posted: Tue Apr 08, 2014 9:24 pm |
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I've had twisted and broken axles. Hate drum brakes. Hate doing semi float bearings. Never done a R&P in the rear.
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jonno_racing

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Joined: Wed Apr 15, 2009 11:30 pm Posts: 8164 Location: Tassie
Vehicle: suzuki
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 Posted: Tue Apr 08, 2014 10:16 pm |
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Didn't you bust a bunch of center's in your white zook before you chopped it up? ? Maby its a terrain thing?
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alien
Joined: Wed Mar 24, 2010 10:30 pm Posts: 16343 Location: Perth
Vehicle: '92 Sierra, 1.6efi, SPOA, 31s.
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 Posted: Tue Apr 08, 2014 11:01 pm |
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I've lunched 1 R&P and Pinion also... but that we pre-floater... and i did a LOT of reverse recoveries on it (before i knew about the inherent weakness in the gears).
I think just the combination of rear locker, tcase gears and 31" tyres + a bit of bouncing around on rocks is all it takes. I'm much more careful now - and i have a front airlocker, so when i start bouncing i can flick that on and crawl up (usually without bouncing around!) or find another line rather than trying and trying until something breaks.
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3cyl
Joined: Tue Jan 29, 2008 10:30 pm Posts: 2054 Location: Ipswich
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 Posted: Wed Apr 09, 2014 4:48 am |
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I've broken a Stockman rear axle, same size and spline, different length, with a 2stroke. Shockload in my case.
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SierraDan

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Joined: Fri Feb 04, 2011 10:55 pm Posts: 9348 Location: Newcastle
Vehicle: G13BB Jimny
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 Posted: Wed Apr 09, 2014 5:17 am |
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jonno_racing wrote: Didn't you bust a bunch of center's in your white zook before you chopped it up? ? Maby its a terrain thing? Not in the rear. I've had a rear centre fail, but nothing to do with lockers, gears or tyres. But i went with the Vit centre when i did the swap too. Just doing full floating axles seems like half a fix to me.
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tanshi

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Joined: Tue Jan 09, 2007 10:30 pm Posts: 7717 Location: Brisbane
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 Posted: Wed Apr 09, 2014 8:39 am |
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the way i see it why not. they are cheap. Mine when i finally release them will be even cheaper.
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jonno_racing

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Joined: Wed Apr 15, 2009 11:30 pm Posts: 8164 Location: Tassie
Vehicle: suzuki
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 Posted: Wed Apr 09, 2014 9:25 pm |
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Thanks for you input guys. I'm set on running a n/t rear diff so not as easy as buying a kit and bolting it in. Unless there is a kit available for n/t? I'm just factoring in the $$ in a fairly budget build.
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sideways

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Joined: Fri Oct 29, 2010 1:53 pm Posts: 5936 Location: Northcliffe, W.A.
Vehicle: LJs, Sierra, Jimny, Swift.
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 Posted: Wed Apr 09, 2014 11:20 pm |
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I'm sure Joe will make you a set if you ask. Tanshi will when he gets around to making them.
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SierraDan

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Joined: Fri Feb 04, 2011 10:55 pm Posts: 9348 Location: Newcastle
Vehicle: G13BB Jimny
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 Posted: Thu Apr 10, 2014 5:31 am |
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Wouldn't NT be the same kit, just shorter axles?
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jonno_racing

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Joined: Wed Apr 15, 2009 11:30 pm Posts: 8164 Location: Tassie
Vehicle: suzuki
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 Posted: Thu Apr 10, 2014 8:14 am |
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U going into making axels tanshi? Yeah dan 50mm a side shorter from memory
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tanshi

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Joined: Tue Jan 09, 2007 10:30 pm Posts: 7717 Location: Brisbane
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 Posted: Thu Apr 10, 2014 8:23 am |
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hoping too once i get this stupid jeep finished
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