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Daly87
Joined: Mon Feb 04, 2013 7:46 pm Posts: 166 Location: Mandurah
Vehicle: 1997 Vitara 2.0
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 Posted: Tue Apr 15, 2014 12:56 am |
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Hi has anybody any experience with these types of lights. 55w h3 lights if that means anything. Im thinking they might be good as I dont have a front bar to mount too or roof racks.
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Jezza86

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Joined: Tue Dec 06, 2011 9:30 am Posts: 2155 Location: Nhulunbuy 0880
Vehicle: 2010 jimny
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in wa there's a limit to the number of forward facing lights inst there? would be better if they were 55w h3 HID lights, with spot and spread configurations
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DarkHorse

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Joined: Wed Apr 14, 2010 11:30 pm Posts: 5413
Vehicle: 08 SV650
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Pretty sure most states have restrictions on the number, configuration, colour and height of forward facing lights... wouldn't have a clue what the WA details were.
I've looked at those Jeep-style pods, but never really investigated them. Most fittings for halogen lamps can physically be adapted to take HIDs, legality is a different question again.
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Daly87
Joined: Mon Feb 04, 2013 7:46 pm Posts: 166 Location: Mandurah
Vehicle: 1997 Vitara 2.0
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 Posted: Thu Apr 17, 2014 10:15 pm |
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So darkhorse, was the reason you didn't buy any because of legality? Have you ever seen how good these are?
I didnt know there was a legal limit, I see so many around with spotlights everywhere.
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got_bar_work
Joined: Sat May 15, 2010 8:30 pm Posts: 2214 Location: Brisbane
Vehicle: SQ625
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bakerboy
Joined: Sun Oct 25, 2009 10:30 pm Posts: 2291 Location: Perth
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got_bar_work wrote: Why not 2 20in led bars  but yeah, they are really just 4x headlights, they look cool but thats about it IMO, no real distance nor spread
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Daly87
Joined: Mon Feb 04, 2013 7:46 pm Posts: 166 Location: Mandurah
Vehicle: 1997 Vitara 2.0
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bakerboy wrote:  but yeah, they are really just 4x headlights, they look cool but thats about it IMO, no real distance nor spread Ahh ok, thats upsetting. Was a nice idea while it lasted.
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DarkHorse

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Joined: Wed Apr 14, 2010 11:30 pm Posts: 5413
Vehicle: 08 SV650
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That was pretty much it. Effort to fit and wire them up not worth the payoff. LED bars much better result, and easily removable if necessary.
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murcod
Joined: Thu Apr 16, 2009 11:30 pm Posts: 327 Location: Adelaide
Vehicle: XL-7 (gone) + Kizashi
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DarkHorse wrote: LED bars much better result, and easily removable if necessary. A friend in Sydney had one he'd integrated into the lower grille of his Kizashi. ("Had", because some scum bag kicked his grille in and stole the light bar!)
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fordem
Joined: Mon Apr 19, 2010 11:30 pm Posts: 2656 Location: Georgetown, Guyana
Vehicle: JB420, APK416, A6G415, A6N415
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He did say they were "easily removable" ...
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shep
Joined: Thu Mar 29, 2007 11:30 pm Posts: 14499 Location: Here there everywhere
Vehicle: A manly awesome man jimny
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I still haven't seen led lights that work better then a good hid light. The lights on my wife's NGV use a total of 110 watts and give around 1.5km of awesome bright light.
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murcod
Joined: Thu Apr 16, 2009 11:30 pm Posts: 327 Location: Adelaide
Vehicle: XL-7 (gone) + Kizashi
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fordem wrote: He did say they were "easily removable" ... Exactly! It's not necessarily a good point.
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murcod
Joined: Thu Apr 16, 2009 11:30 pm Posts: 327 Location: Adelaide
Vehicle: XL-7 (gone) + Kizashi
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shep wrote: I still haven't seen led lights that work better then a good hid light. The lights on my wife's NGV use a total of 110 watts and give around 1.5km of awesome bright light. That must really suck when you have oncoming traffic- have to switch to low beam- and have lost all your night vision! 
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Bucket

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Joined: Mon Nov 30, 2009 10:30 pm Posts: 2191 Location: Vic
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shep wrote: I still haven't seen led lights that work better then a good hid light. The lights on my wife's NGV use a total of 110 watts and give around 1.5km of awesome bright light. Agreed. Although not HID's, I prefer my lightforce 240's over the 42" cheap LED bar on my SS ute. That said, there's a heap of difference between a cheap bar (what most people run) and the good ones like rigid industries and great white.....
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shep
Joined: Thu Mar 29, 2007 11:30 pm Posts: 14499 Location: Here there everywhere
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murcod wrote: shep wrote: I still haven't seen led lights that work better then a good hid light. The lights on my wife's NGV use a total of 110 watts and give around 1.5km of awesome bright light. That must really suck when you have oncoming traffic- have to switch to low beam- and have lost all your night vision!  I don't live in a populated area and I reckon it would suck more if ya plowed into one of the very nurmerous large animals that hangout on the roads in the NT
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murcod
Joined: Thu Apr 16, 2009 11:30 pm Posts: 327 Location: Adelaide
Vehicle: XL-7 (gone) + Kizashi
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My point is 1.5km is just a little bit of overkill, switching to low beam for oncoming vehicles would be like you've turned all your lights back to the parkers! Your eyes will have adjusted to the super bright HID's and low beam is when you will be blind and at risk of hitting something.
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shep
Joined: Thu Mar 29, 2007 11:30 pm Posts: 14499 Location: Here there everywhere
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murcod wrote: My point is 1.5km is just a little bit of overkill, switching to low beam for oncoming vehicles would be like you've turned all your lights back to the parkers! Your eyes will have adjusted to the super bright HID's and low beam is when you will be blind and at risk of hitting something. Really? So you would have shit lights just because you have trouble adjusting to low beam light? I regularly drive at night and it isn't unusual to see no other traffic for 2 or 3 hours. City logic just makes no sense to me 
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bakerboy
Joined: Sun Oct 25, 2009 10:30 pm Posts: 2291 Location: Perth
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shep wrote: I still haven't seen led lights that work better then a good hid light. The lights on my wife's NGV use a total of 110 watts and give around 1.5km of awesome bright light. I know what I'd prefer, but that's because our needs are different 
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bakerboy
Joined: Sun Oct 25, 2009 10:30 pm Posts: 2291 Location: Perth
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sweet jesus sorry for the huge ass photos :/
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shep
Joined: Thu Mar 29, 2007 11:30 pm Posts: 14499 Location: Here there everywhere
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Almost twice the power use so I would expect them to be almost twice as bright. I have factory narva d1s hid lights and also had a 100w quality Cree led light bar I removed the light bar because I couldn't tell when it was turned on or off.
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shep
Joined: Thu Mar 29, 2007 11:30 pm Posts: 14499 Location: Here there everywhere
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Actually looking at your photo it shows the failings of led quite well. Things look bright as the light goes every where, however the tree that is 100ish meters in front of the car is hardly visible with led However with hid you can clearly see that there is nothing hiding under the tree waiting to hop out in front of ya.
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bakerboy
Joined: Sun Oct 25, 2009 10:30 pm Posts: 2291 Location: Perth
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it's well over 100m but yeah for your use on dead straight roads it's no good but for roads that have corners I certainly don't rate hid
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Reubs
Joined: Wed Sep 09, 2009 11:30 pm Posts: 1522 Location: Brisbane
Vehicle: SJ80, SE416
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Bucket wrote: shep wrote: I still haven't seen led lights that work better then a good hid light. The lights on my wife's NGV use a total of 110 watts and give around 1.5km of awesome bright light. Agreed. Although not HID's, I prefer my lightforce 240's over the 42" cheap LED bar on my SS ute. I rewired some halogen Lightforce 240s and a 20" lightbar on a friend's 80 series and once a proper loom was installed the Lightforce 240s absolutely shat all over the lightbar in terms of output. Also are those pics above showing the output of an LED lightbar, cheapo 'work light' style LED spotlights without proper optics or a pair of LED spotlights utilising properly focused LEDs shining backwards into a quality reflector?
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bakerboy
Joined: Sun Oct 25, 2009 10:30 pm Posts: 2291 Location: Perth
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murcod
Joined: Thu Apr 16, 2009 11:30 pm Posts: 327 Location: Adelaide
Vehicle: XL-7 (gone) + Kizashi
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The LED's (shown above) light up a lot more scrub off the road side immediately in front of the vehicle - that's where I've always found the wild life suddenly appears from.
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shep
Joined: Thu Mar 29, 2007 11:30 pm Posts: 14499 Location: Here there everywhere
Vehicle: A manly awesome man jimny
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murcod wrote: The LED's (shown above) light up a lot more scrub off the road side immediately in front of the vehicle - that's where I've always found the wild life suddenly appears from. That is why I have factory hid and not retro fitted kits. The light out of the front of my NGV is so awesome that I couldn't tell if the quality led bar was on or off.
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