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1992suzukivitara
Joined: Fri Jun 20, 2014 2:17 pm Posts: 150
Vehicle: 1992 suzuki vitara
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 Posted: Sun Jul 13, 2014 9:15 am |
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Can someone please shine some light on how to do the backfire technique there's heaps of different ways to do it what's the right way to do it on a swb carby vitara
Cheers Joel!!
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Gwagensteve
Joined: Thu Feb 26, 2009 10:30 pm Posts: 13001 Location: Melbourne
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Isn't it normally swap plug leads 2 and 4?
Steve.
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Jezza86

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pump and lift while decelerating from 4Krpm works for me.
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Blkfxx

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Joined: Sat Feb 04, 2012 7:11 pm Posts: 1105 Location: Oberon, NSW
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1 and 4, Steve.
EDIT: At-least it is for sierras.
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atari4x4

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Joined: Mon Dec 11, 2006 10:30 pm Posts: 34843 Location: East Radelayed
Vehicle: SV420+SV620 Vitara's
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 Posted: Sun Jul 13, 2014 1:17 pm |
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drive it normally, then turn it off, but keep it in gear and rolling, allowing fuel to be sucked in thru the engine without burning, then after a while u turn the engine back to 'on' this will give you the best backfire.
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alien
Joined: Wed Mar 24, 2010 10:30 pm Posts: 16343 Location: Perth
Vehicle: '92 Sierra, 1.6efi, SPOA, 31s.
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Atari's method is pretty sweet.
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1992suzukivitara
Joined: Fri Jun 20, 2014 2:17 pm Posts: 150
Vehicle: 1992 suzuki vitara
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 Posted: Sun Jul 13, 2014 5:11 pm |
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atari4x4 wrote: drive it normally, then turn it off, but keep it in gear and rolling, allowing fuel to be sucked in thru the engine without burning, then after a while u turn the engine back to 'on' this will give you the best backfire. I'm pretty sure your pissed of at me so I'm not gonna try that LOL. Cheers Joel!!
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atari4x4

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Joined: Mon Dec 11, 2006 10:30 pm Posts: 34843 Location: East Radelayed
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 Posted: Sun Jul 13, 2014 5:24 pm |
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that is the best way to get a good backfire, if that's what your after.
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1992suzukivitara
Joined: Fri Jun 20, 2014 2:17 pm Posts: 150
Vehicle: 1992 suzuki vitara
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 Posted: Sun Jul 13, 2014 5:36 pm |
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atari4x4 wrote: that is the best way to get a good backfire, if that's what your after. Ok thanks so no need for the clutch just turn it of at like 60kmh and pump it like 4 times and like roll start it ? Cheers Joel!!
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alien
Joined: Wed Mar 24, 2010 10:30 pm Posts: 16343 Location: Perth
Vehicle: '92 Sierra, 1.6efi, SPOA, 31s.
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 Posted: Sun Jul 13, 2014 8:01 pm |
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pretty sure you don't have to touch the throttle.. just the engine braking sucks enough fuel in to do the job.
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Santos
Joined: Tue Jun 09, 2009 11:30 pm Posts: 1009 Location: Sydney -ish
Vehicle: 92 Suzuki Sierra
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 Posted: Sun Jul 13, 2014 8:36 pm |
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Ok... noob question... why do you want to back fire it?
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Gwagensteve
Joined: Thu Feb 26, 2009 10:30 pm Posts: 13001 Location: Melbourne
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 Posted: Sun Jul 13, 2014 8:57 pm |
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Normally to try and clean out the jets
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Santos
Joined: Tue Jun 09, 2009 11:30 pm Posts: 1009 Location: Sydney -ish
Vehicle: 92 Suzuki Sierra
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 Posted: Sun Jul 13, 2014 9:15 pm |
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Ah... I just rev it manually by hand to 6000rpm then stuff a towel over the intake. Remove towel before engines dies, never had it backfire that way
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alien
Joined: Wed Mar 24, 2010 10:30 pm Posts: 16343 Location: Perth
Vehicle: '92 Sierra, 1.6efi, SPOA, 31s.
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lol i used to do that but with my hand rather than a towel... it did work..
...but...
A backfire would be more fun =)
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atari4x4

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Joined: Mon Dec 11, 2006 10:30 pm Posts: 34843 Location: East Radelayed
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1992suzukivitara wrote: atari4x4 wrote: that is the best way to get a good backfire, if that's what your after. Ok thanks so no need for the clutch just turn it of at like 60kmh and pump it like 4 times and like roll start it ? Cheers Joel!! get it up to speed, switch the ignition off leave it in gear & let it roll with the ignition off, then fire it back up with the key. 
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Bucket

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Joined: Mon Nov 30, 2009 10:30 pm Posts: 2191 Location: Vic
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The ole' key banga method. We had a quad bike you used to be able to do key bangers in and it's shoot flames out the back haha
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want33s

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Joined: Fri Nov 16, 2007 10:30 pm Posts: 8135 Location: Sunshine Coast Qld
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What sort of backfire do you want? You can make it backfire through the carby or in the exhaust. Through the carby is as described above, swap plug leads. In the exhaust is the 'keybang' style above and if you do that, can you video the backfire please. 
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1992suzukivitara
Joined: Fri Jun 20, 2014 2:17 pm Posts: 150
Vehicle: 1992 suzuki vitara
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 Posted: Mon Jul 14, 2014 5:50 pm |
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Through the carby. I'm not sure I'm gonna do it notices a vacuum like with a little orange filter that goes into the air filter plastic that came off seems to run fine now might do some key bangs though lol blow up some mufflers
Cheers Joel!!
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Reubs
Joined: Wed Sep 09, 2009 11:30 pm Posts: 1522 Location: Brisbane
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I have seen the 'backfire' method used to clear blocked carbys plenty of times but yet to see it work properly or for any longevity.
Considering idle jet removal, cleaning and reassembly takes less than an hour, I don't see any reason to try back firing...
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atari4x4

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Joined: Mon Dec 11, 2006 10:30 pm Posts: 34843 Location: East Radelayed
Vehicle: SV420+SV620 Vitara's
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 Posted: Tue Jul 15, 2014 5:10 pm |
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^^^ bingo.
that's where i think the french/mexican/wog tune up is better, rather than just blowing the crap out of the jets by backfiring through the carby only to have it get stuck again. the rev it up & suffocate it method seems to suck what ever shit is stuck in the jets through.
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alien
Joined: Wed Mar 24, 2010 10:30 pm Posts: 16343 Location: Perth
Vehicle: '92 Sierra, 1.6efi, SPOA, 31s.
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as i posted above..
...but a backfire would be more fun!!!
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droverdave
Joined: Wed Dec 19, 2012 7:43 am Posts: 685
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 Posted: Tue Jul 15, 2014 5:23 pm |
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Backfiring through the carby (swapping ign leads) should be reserved for when you are stuck on the side of the road miles from home with a spluttering engine and used as a last resort....
It's not a good idea to get into the practice of doing it for maintenance in your garage. You can have the carby off, and the jets out in less than half an hour. Then blow them out with a can of carby cleaner......
I'ts more likely you have crap floating around in the fuel bowl if you think the carby jet is blocked, so backfiring through the carby may release the bit of grit back into the fuel bowl, only a matter of time before it gets lodged in the jet again....
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