[GraphicX]

i've tried a forum search but no luck, the other engine i've found is from a 2001 baleno hatchback & it has the coil/pulse packs on the end of the head similar to the photo below:



is this motor suitable for a jimny G13B swap ? if so, does it present any extra challenges (such as having to swap the entire jimny head) ?

thanks in advance.

[dougies_tx5turbo]

Mate you need the motor with the coil packs on top, if not you can use a G16 A or B block and get your head redone. There are a few threads on this. I think 31zook is doing this conversion at the moment. A few people have don't this conversion and have got different ways of doing it, there's a lot of mixed information. Me personally if I was doing it I would get assistance from someone who has done the conversion or someone who has got a bit of zook knowledge

[Blkfxx]

Won't be a 2001, If it was the coil packs would be on the rocker cover.

[GraphicX]

from best i can tell 2001 onward had the coil packs at the end of the head as per the picture above. searching here & on google only came up with a thread here of a jimny for sale that he listed as having a 2001 baleno engine, but of course no info on how he come to have it in there.

i might send him a pm, bit of a long shot but worth a try.

[Blkfxx]

Found some info here - http://www.auszookers.com/forum/viewtop ... =7&t=17214

[jdk81]

Sure thats not a grey import?

Its got lpg conversion?

[GraphicX]

@ jdk: that was just the only 2001 engine photo i could find on google.

@ blk: thanks for that, this bit is a bit worrying:

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I had a 2000 motor. then cooked it. then used one of these motors. then used the other coil packs and different cam cover. All works fine. These 97' back of head coilpacks are a 4pin? whereas 98+ coil on top are 3pin. Different wiring.

they're talking sierras, so that could be the right thing for a jimny, or the complete wrong. i just don't wanna buy the motor & find out i'm up for double the work & double the cash.

[Blkfxx]

So you'd have to match the number of wires on your current coil packs to the correct baleno ones 4 pin or 3 pin. Does the conversion use the jimny loom or do you have to use baleno.

[Gwagensteve]

It all depends on how much stripping/refitting you are prepared to do. These are the facts as I understand them.

All 1.6 G16B short blocks are the same, other than the crank position sensor, which doesn't cause any swapping issues into a jimny (just leave it unplugged)

All SOHC 16V head castings are the same.

There are a number of different camshaft position sensor/ distributor drives. Obviously there is distributor and on-head coil -pack. IF you are swapping a distributor motor into a Jimny,it's probably easiest to swap in the Jimny camshaft.

I don't know anything about the camshaft position sensor used on the "off head" coil pack motors. If it's the same as a Jimny sensor, then you don't need to swap cams or anything greasy over.

Regardless of the donor G16B, you will need the following parts from your G13BB:

Sump
Oil pickup
Accessory brackets and accessories (some modification may be required depending on configuration - there seems to be some differences between the bolt patterns on a G16 and G13BB)
inlet manifold
exhaust manifold
(obvoiusly) engine mounts.

You will use all of your existing wiring, computer and sensors, with the only variable being the camshaft position sensor as noted above.

Hope this helps a bit.

Steve.

[GraphicX]

@ blk: conversion should be using the jimny loom if i get the correct motor, biggest issue i've read is not knowing if the cam pickup is the correct number of lugs.

@ steve: thanks for writing that up for me. i'm really hoping to not use the 1.3 cam as from what i've read it can limit the amount of revs the 1.6 can do quite a lot. i know it's possible but tricky to use the 1.6 cam with the camshaft position cog from the 1.3 & i'd be prepared to do that.

with stripping etc i'm not too worried about doing a lot, i'll likely rebuild the bottom end regardless & renew all the usual gaskets, but really wanna retain the 1.6 cam.

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All SOHC 16V head castings are the same.

- would this mean 'worst case scenario' may be that i literally just take the head from my 1.3 & drop it onto the 1.6, & i may still be able to put the 1.6 cam into my 1.3 if i change the cam sensor cog (so it has 11 tabs) on the end ?

i also had some luck pm'ing watermouse & his 1.6, but his motor had the coil packs on the rocker cover to begin with.

[Gwagensteve]

I'm surprised the cam profiles are that different between the G13BB and G16B - I've driven a G16B engined car with a G13BB cam in it and it seemed to drive pretty much identical to my G16B engined car with a G16B cam. In any case, you're correct regards ability to swap cams at will assuming the cam position sensor drives are the same (and I believe they are) between coil pack baleno and Jimny motors.

[jdk81]

If the g16 cam is a huge issue, I have a baleno cam with the 2 prongs on it spare (and plenty of other spares)
If you find out you need bits and pieces, let me know.

Just as long as its worth my time to go to the shed and post them etc.

[GraphicX]

thanks for the offer jdk, will keep you in mind.