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BertZook

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Joined: Wed May 26, 2010 3:01 am Posts: 2979 Location: Sunshine Coast
Vehicle: Jimny, 45mm lift, 235's tyres
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 Posted: Tue Dec 23, 2014 9:43 pm |
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they are awesome to target our cars and they seem to be developing more stuff everyday. I jumped in the website to check prices, and I saw few new stuff, so guessing few ppl here wouldn't know either. So as I dot think there is a dedicated tread, I might create one to chat about this new products front and back recovery points (wondering if the fronts would be up to task)   a spare wheel spacer for those with big wheels  update design of the panhard sets  witch is pretty cool. Many ppl here didn't like the old ones and say that the TD ones were much better. Well they seem to have a design just like the TD ones, so pretty cool and what it really caught me by surprise. rear brake disc conversion kit  by using front jimmy rotors and Renault Megane / Scenic callipers (no idea if we have that car in OZ or an equivalent? ) at the moment the kit is sell as it is, in the future they say they will sell full with with brake hoses, callipers, and pads so how does this kit difference with the full floater kit from joeblow for example
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sideways

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Joined: Fri Oct 29, 2010 1:53 pm Posts: 5936 Location: Northcliffe, W.A.
Vehicle: LJs, Sierra, Jimny, Swift.
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 Posted: Tue Dec 23, 2014 10:01 pm |
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We got the Megane and Scenic here. There's probably people wrecking them on Aussiefrogs. Parts for Renaults are surprisingly cheap, even new. BertZook wrote: so how does this kit difference with the full floater kit from joeblow for example The full floater kit gives you stronger axles, better wheel bearings and greater dependability (if you break an axle/diff you can pull the axles out or flanges off and keep on driving in front wheel drive, or with the diff locked ect).
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Seth2013
Joined: Wed Jul 24, 2013 8:45 am Posts: 161
Vehicle: 2003 Suziki Jimny
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Great Idea bertzook - also if people can review them if they purchase them.
recovery points look interesting, better than standard, but a paperclip is better than standard
Rear disk conversion, this interests me greatly. might look further into this
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klutched

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Joined: Wed May 16, 2012 3:46 pm Posts: 1691 Location: Brisbane
Vehicle: 99 Grand Vitara
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 Posted: Thu Dec 25, 2014 6:49 am |
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Do you guys know the length of the panhard rods by any chance?
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303zuke

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Joined: Wed Aug 19, 2009 11:30 pm Posts: 2447
Vehicle: LJ50V, SJ70
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BertZook wrote: and what it really caught me by surprise. rear brake disc conversion kit  by using front jimmy rotors and Renault Megane / Scenic callipers (no idea if we have that car in OZ or an equivalent? ) at the moment the kit is sell as it is, in the future they say they will sell full with with brake hoses, callipers, and pads so how does this kit difference with the full floater kit from joeblow for example These caliper brackets are only secured to the diff housing by the 4 bolts through the flange, which is also all that retains your axle. They are exposed to shear forces by the caliper, and tension from the weight of the vehicle. I see that the bolts supplied with the kit are capscrews, with the thread running the full length of the bolt, reducing the cross section and creating shear force weak spots. Joe Blow's kit is double thickness and shaped to engage around the outside of the flange on the diff housing, eliminating the shear forces on the bolts. The bolts now only bear tension of the weight of the vehicle. The kit not only gives you stronger axles, but removes the weight bearing of the vehicle from the axles and transmits it wholly through the larger bearings and the axle housings only. Pictures (and shameless plug) in THIS THREAD
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BertZook

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Joined: Wed May 26, 2010 3:01 am Posts: 2979 Location: Sunshine Coast
Vehicle: Jimny, 45mm lift, 235's tyres
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sweet I get it now, thanks still a good cheap-ish mod to do. now wonder how big the renault callipers would be in comparison to the jimmy ones?. Is there a way to improve the front brakes too?. I know that ideally the front should be better than the back, but by making the back brakes same, if not better than front is not an issue? klutched wrote: Do you guys know the length of the panhard rods by any chance? no idea, not much info about it, they only say this Quote: Fits jimnys with a lift height of 1" to 5" ( 25mm to 125mm) also while checking their site on the accessories tab theres a " £1 postage payments", only info is Quote: £1 postage payments for extra postage if someone has purchased something recent and know please. I wonder if it its a two separate packages in order to not get bill import taxes???
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dougies_tx5turbo
Joined: Tue May 25, 2010 10:56 am Posts: 1051 Location: north brisbane
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 Posted: Thu Dec 25, 2014 9:40 pm |
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Vitara LWB brakes to upgrade front on a jimny
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Skippy

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Joined: Sat Apr 14, 2012 9:57 am Posts: 531 Location: Gold Coast
Vehicle: 2011 Jimny
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 Posted: Fri Dec 26, 2014 5:04 am |
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With the brakes dougie, what rotor did you use?
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dougies_tx5turbo
Joined: Tue May 25, 2010 10:56 am Posts: 1051 Location: north brisbane
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Vitara rotors Vvt is a different story as apparently the spindle hub has a bigger hole as zukenutter discovered,havent yet checked but if your interested i can get you some measurements. If this is the case you would have to use pre vvt hubs.
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zukenutter

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Joined: Sun Feb 08, 2009 10:30 pm Posts: 9045 Location: Brisneyland
Vehicle: 2006 Jimny JLX
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 Posted: Fri Dec 26, 2014 8:09 pm |
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Yeah definitely a larger hole in the centre, can't remember the diameters but I think it was less than a mm difference.
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alien
Joined: Wed Mar 24, 2010 10:30 pm Posts: 16343 Location: Perth
Vehicle: '92 Sierra, 1.6efi, SPOA, 31s.
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^^ This is correct... my Sierra floater kit runs vitara hubs on the rear and non-vvt jimny rotors with pintara calipers and swift GTi handbrake lines =)
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shep
Joined: Thu Mar 29, 2007 11:30 pm Posts: 14498 Location: Here there everywhere
Vehicle: A manly awesome man jimny
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 Posted: Fri Dec 26, 2014 8:19 pm |
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Why couldn't you machine the hole to the right size?
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dougies_tx5turbo
Joined: Tue May 25, 2010 10:56 am Posts: 1051 Location: north brisbane
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shep wrote: Why couldn't you machine the hole to the right size? You can but than you don't have off the shelf parts
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Skippy

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Joined: Sat Apr 14, 2012 9:57 am Posts: 531 Location: Gold Coast
Vehicle: 2011 Jimny
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 Posted: Fri Dec 26, 2014 10:54 pm |
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Jimny and Vit use PN. DBA 513 solid rotors and the vented vitara rotors (DBA514) are what im told you need to run when doing this brake upgrade.
Jimny & Vit DBA 513 (Solid Rotors)
Specifications Vent Solid Diameter 290 Height 46.5 Thickness 10 Min Thickness 8 Centre Hole Dia 107 Bolt Holes 5
Vit DBA 514 (Vented)
Specifications Vent Vented Diameter 287 Height 46 Thickness 17 Min Thickness 15 Centre Hole Dia 107 Bolt Holes 5
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dougies_tx5turbo
Joined: Tue May 25, 2010 10:56 am Posts: 1051 Location: north brisbane
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Parts you need for the conversion are Vitara LWB rotor Vitara LWB backing plate Vitara LWB callipers Will I have to do new wheel bearing anyways so I will us my spare diff parts form a 99 jimny Thank you that is good information to know
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BertZook

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Joined: Wed May 26, 2010 3:01 am Posts: 2979 Location: Sunshine Coast
Vehicle: Jimny, 45mm lift, 235's tyres
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 Posted: Sat Dec 27, 2014 11:24 pm |
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if you are doing the upgrade post a link here to the build up process (remember lots of pics  ) also are you doing just the front, or doing the back too? might as well using this kit be the test dummy and let us know how it go 
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