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bibby
Joined: Sat Dec 14, 2013 11:56 pm Posts: 241
Vehicle: 1984 holden drover (lwb zook)
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hey guys if you have read any other posts by me im sure you have gathered i have no way of welding or fabricating so i was just wondering if anyone has tried these or if anyone with any engineering knowledge would know if these would be any good? http://www.trailtough.com/index.php?pag ... &Itemid=53being i havent seen anyone else make them it kinda worrys me! PS Sorry about all the posts
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alien
Joined: Wed Mar 24, 2010 10:30 pm Posts: 16343 Location: Perth
Vehicle: '92 Sierra, 1.6efi, SPOA, 31s.
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I'd be inclined to ask an engineer about those - cos they look to me like they'd just rip through the chassis with all the leverage on those 2 bolts. My shock towers are done like this:  
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bibby
Joined: Sat Dec 14, 2013 11:56 pm Posts: 241
Vehicle: 1984 holden drover (lwb zook)
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there is 4 bolts used if you click on the install instructions but yeah i was thinking the same, recon any engineers on here would know? wish i could have ones like yours  want to fly to darwin and make me some :p
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alien
Joined: Wed Mar 24, 2010 10:30 pm Posts: 16343 Location: Perth
Vehicle: '92 Sierra, 1.6efi, SPOA, 31s.
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lol i didn't make mine, suzistore did it. They could probably replicate them though, no idea what they'd charge.
Obviously mine require cutting and grinding off the old ones and welding the new ones on too - so unless you're engineering it, it's totally illegal to do. (no different to the bolt on alternative, but impossible to reverse).
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bibby
Joined: Sat Dec 14, 2013 11:56 pm Posts: 241
Vehicle: 1984 holden drover (lwb zook)
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its more of just a bush rig but i have no access to any welding equipment so wouldnt be able to do so is gwagen a engineer?
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alien
Joined: Wed Mar 24, 2010 10:30 pm Posts: 16343 Location: Perth
Vehicle: '92 Sierra, 1.6efi, SPOA, 31s.
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No one on here is i'm afraid. Look up your local department of Transport website and they should have a list of approved engineers you can consult. Then you just need to find a fabricator to knock them up for you. I'd suggest making them out of cardboard as a template. The height will need to be set to match the shocks you plan to run at the ride height you plan to run it at.
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bibby
Joined: Sat Dec 14, 2013 11:56 pm Posts: 241
Vehicle: 1984 holden drover (lwb zook)
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no as in an engineer to recomend weather the bolt on ones would work or not
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alien
Joined: Wed Mar 24, 2010 10:30 pm Posts: 16343 Location: Perth
Vehicle: '92 Sierra, 1.6efi, SPOA, 31s.
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No one on here is qualified to answer that question, you'd have to ask a consulting engineer. I'd suggest getting that list and contacting the one nearest to you, tell him you are thinking of doing the mods and send all the info and ask if he'd approve the work to be done with those parts. That shouldn't cost you a dime. From there you can decide if you actually want it engineered or not too.
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bibby
Joined: Sat Dec 14, 2013 11:56 pm Posts: 241
Vehicle: 1984 holden drover (lwb zook)
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its for a none registered vehicle so engineering isnt a worry but i think i might go that option anyways just to see if they would work as no one on here would know?
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alien
Joined: Wed Mar 24, 2010 10:30 pm Posts: 16343 Location: Perth
Vehicle: '92 Sierra, 1.6efi, SPOA, 31s.
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Still, it might be fine for a year and then be like a can opener on your chassis rails. I'd err on the side of caution!
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J--A--C--K
Joined: Tue Jan 10, 2012 3:48 am Posts: 253 Location: melbourne
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If this is just a bush rig and getting things welded ect is going to be out of your reach and hard to find someone to do, why not do what the rest of us not weldy people do and put some good soft springs under it , gears , spool the rear some nice tyres and call it done. Then actually get out in the bush and have fun.
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jdk81
Joined: Sat Jul 18, 2009 11:30 pm Posts: 2372 Location: Ballarat, VIC
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I wouldnt bother to be honest. They look shit, proper nasty. I dont know what you're building to utilise the extra shock length available, but I cant think of a bolt on option that I would use.
You could use some scissor shackles I guess, which would use the extra droop. However, it's unsprung droop, so it doesnt actually help with stability/driveability and isn't worth doing.
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bibby
Joined: Sat Dec 14, 2013 11:56 pm Posts: 241
Vehicle: 1984 holden drover (lwb zook)
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Yeah thats why i posted it as i didnt think they would be worth it!
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Marko_SJ
Joined: Tue Jan 17, 2012 1:40 am Posts: 2979 Location: Darwin, NT
Vehicle: WT sierra, GU CRD
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J--A--C--K wrote: If this is just a bush rig and getting things welded ect is going to be out of your reach and hard to find someone to do, why not do what the rest of us not weldy people do and put some good soft springs under it , gears , spool the rear some nice tyres and call it done. Then actually get out in the bush and have fun. X2. I've tried talking my mate into doing the welding if I did a R.U.F on my car and he's not overly keen to play with car and project welding - not because there's any issue with the welding, just eats into fun time on motorbikes. I haven't come across any terrain in the Darwin area that *needed* a hardcore built suzuki, I think one with gearing, twin lockers and power steer would do most of it on 30s or 31s. My 2C.
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jdk81
Joined: Sat Jul 18, 2009 11:30 pm Posts: 2372 Location: Ballarat, VIC
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Marko_SJ wrote: I haven't come across any terrain in the Darwin area that *needed* a hardcore built suzuki, I think one with gearing, twin lockers and power steer would do most of it on 30s or 31s.
My 2C. With that set up there isn't much in VIC it would really miss out on, whilst still being fun and driveable etc
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bibby
Joined: Sat Dec 14, 2013 11:56 pm Posts: 241
Vehicle: 1984 holden drover (lwb zook)
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Yeah i already have gears and 31s and a rear spool and all the good stuff on my road vehicle just a mate has and old zook that we where just gona fuck aroud with as it already has some stupid radiculous shit already this isnt for my road car sorry guys i should have stated that!
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bibby
Joined: Sat Dec 14, 2013 11:56 pm Posts: 241
Vehicle: 1984 holden drover (lwb zook)
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Only thing i want but havent got on my road vehicle is wt diffs and p/s
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Marko_SJ
Joined: Tue Jan 17, 2012 1:40 am Posts: 2979 Location: Darwin, NT
Vehicle: WT sierra, GU CRD
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bibby wrote: Yeah i already have gears and 31s and a rear spool and all the good stuff on my road vehicle just a mate has and old zook that we where just gona fuck aroud with as it already has some stupid radiculous shit already this isnt for my road car sorry guys i should have stated that! Well, I'll bring the MIG around and we can start welding tomorrow. Why are you worried and not welding then?
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bibby
Joined: Sat Dec 14, 2013 11:56 pm Posts: 241
Vehicle: 1984 holden drover (lwb zook)
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are you in darwin too? and i just dont have access to welding equipment theres no problem with welding!
he just has someone keen to buy it and we was gona see if we wanted to fuck with it further but its not worth the effort otherwise so he will just sell it
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Marko_SJ
Joined: Tue Jan 17, 2012 1:40 am Posts: 2979 Location: Darwin, NT
Vehicle: WT sierra, GU CRD
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bibby wrote: are you in darwin too? and i just dont have access to welding equipment theres no problem with welding!
he just has someone keen to buy it and we was gona see if we wanted to fuck with it further but its not worth the effort otherwise so he will just sell it Yeah, in Darwin. Got a MIG, but haven't been welding enough to feel comfortable with chassis mods.
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bibby
Joined: Sat Dec 14, 2013 11:56 pm Posts: 241
Vehicle: 1984 holden drover (lwb zook)
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Yeah fair enough, chuck us a pm and we should hit up mickets, gunnies or telstra some time
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Marko_SJ
Joined: Tue Jan 17, 2012 1:40 am Posts: 2979 Location: Darwin, NT
Vehicle: WT sierra, GU CRD
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bibby wrote: Yeah fair enough, chuck us a pm and we should hit up mickets, gunnies or telstra some time No worries, I don't have a zook anymore, but can ride my dirt bike to Telstra Hill, Hidden Valley or Mickets. Gunn Point is meh, I'd maybe have to trailer it if I'm feeling soft, maybe.
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monley

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Joined: Wed Nov 24, 2010 7:58 am Posts: 11092 Location: Mandurah.W.A.
Vehicle: 84 LWB NT
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Marko_SJ wrote: bibby wrote: are you in darwin too? and i just dont have access to welding equipment theres no problem with welding!
he just has someone keen to buy it and we was gona see if we wanted to fuck with it further but its not worth the effort otherwise so he will just sell it Yeah, in Darwin. Got a MIG, but haven't been welding enough to feel comfortable with chassis mods. Pay me in liquid substance and ill weld there things on seen as tho im in Darwin now 
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