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budflow
Joined: Sun Aug 16, 2015 10:24 am Posts: 10
Vehicle: suzuki sierra
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hey guy im relatively new so take it easy on me .i bought this sierra few months ago it has a 2.6 rodeo motor in it and missing a few parts just want to know what model it is and and if its wide track or narrow rack so i can source the missing parts i need to get it going any info would be good and if anyone knows any history about it cheers 
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monley

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Joined: Wed Nov 24, 2010 7:58 am Posts: 11092 Location: Mandurah.W.A.
Vehicle: 84 LWB NT
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Wide track
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budflow
Joined: Sun Aug 16, 2015 10:24 am Posts: 10
Vehicle: suzuki sierra
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btw i know i should check plate in engine bay but car is locked up at brother in laws workshop but his currently on holiday so trying to source parts before he gets back
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budflow
Joined: Sun Aug 16, 2015 10:24 am Posts: 10
Vehicle: suzuki sierra
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 Posted: Sun Aug 16, 2015 11:08 am |
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monley wrote: Wide track any clue to what model it is?
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budflow
Joined: Sun Aug 16, 2015 10:24 am Posts: 10
Vehicle: suzuki sierra
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 Posted: Sun Aug 16, 2015 11:17 am |
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i need to know what model it is so i can look up the right measurement for the front shaft
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Gwagensteve
Joined: Thu Feb 26, 2009 10:30 pm Posts: 13007 Location: Melbourne
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There's only one model of wide track Sierra - SJ70
BUT - a 2.6 rodeo conversion, along with what looks to be a spring over will mean that there's lots of custom/non factory parts in it and in all likelihood the front driveshaft won't be standard.
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budflow
Joined: Sun Aug 16, 2015 10:24 am Posts: 10
Vehicle: suzuki sierra
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 Posted: Sun Aug 16, 2015 11:41 am |
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Gwagensteve wrote: There's only one model of wide track Sierra - SJ70
BUT - a 2.6 rodeo conversion, along with what looks to be a spring over will mean that there's lots of custom/non factory parts in it and in all likelihood the front driveshaft won't be standard. who does custom shafts in sydney?
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Gwagensteve
Joined: Thu Feb 26, 2009 10:30 pm Posts: 13007 Location: Melbourne
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I don't know, I'm not in Sydney. Someone might be able to help though.
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suz_rolly
Joined: Thu Jun 20, 2013 11:57 am Posts: 197 Location: Nanango Qld
Vehicle: Suzuki Sierra Lwb
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body seams to be about 90s model, hilux diffs and springs with shackle reversal. Most likely the drive shafts will be a mix af Suzuki and hilux the front shaft with that lift will need a double cardion joint also
Good luck
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Gwagensteve
Joined: Thu Feb 26, 2009 10:30 pm Posts: 13007 Location: Melbourne
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Didn't even click on the photo, but yes, there's going to be some mixmatchery going on there. Spline travel is likely to become a big issue too with that ride height and shackle reverse. Would have been state of the art 15 years ago. Lol
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budflow
Joined: Sun Aug 16, 2015 10:24 am Posts: 10
Vehicle: suzuki sierra
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 Posted: Sun Aug 16, 2015 1:54 pm |
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ill try and get some more photos to rectify didd and shaft setup
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Gwagensteve
Joined: Thu Feb 26, 2009 10:30 pm Posts: 13007 Location: Melbourne
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I can almost guarantee you're going to have to get something custom made up by taking measurements with the suspension fully cycled (fully compressed and drooped) Did you buy it with no front driveshaft? I wonder if it ever had one? it's certainly going to be a challenge to build.
Steve.
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budflow
Joined: Sun Aug 16, 2015 10:24 am Posts: 10
Vehicle: suzuki sierra
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jdk81
Joined: Sat Jul 18, 2009 11:30 pm Posts: 2372 Location: Ballarat, VIC
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Are you hoping to rego this thing? I think it'll be an uphill battle, and totally not worth the effort unless some of this stuff is stuff is plated already.
Looking at the yellow on the front diff, any chance it came from vic/melb way at some stage? As suz rolly, front diff looks to be hilux, and the rear looks to be bundera (as the centre is quite offset).
The gearbox cross member has been cut and modified to fit the gearbox
I see the cardan joint under the original transfer shifter hole. I couldn't really see, but is there a transfer case in the car?
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Gwagensteve
Joined: Thu Feb 26, 2009 10:30 pm Posts: 13007 Location: Melbourne
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I think thats the end of the shift rail housing for a Sierra transfer in the pic of the cardan joint.
mudflow, I don't want to sound like a hater, but this car is going to a massive amount of trouble. The fabrication looks rough and hasty, there's just tonnes of troubleshooting to be done, and when it's all finished, it won't be that effective. Even if it was certified, certiainly in Victoria if your registration lapses the engineers approval goes with it, so the car has to be re-approved. I don't believe that car could pass engineering now (if it ever did)
Even if it was just to be trailered to drives on private property, I don't think the effort will be worth the return.
Yes, the transfer case has been moved rearwards to accommodate the length of the Isuzu gearbox, So driveshafts will all be custom hilux base. Yes, it has had Hilux/bundera axles grafted into it with what look to be hilux springs in a spring over configuration.
I'm sure a couple of weekends of work and maybe $500 could get it moving. At that point you'll need to start working the bugs out. It doesn't look to have been used much setup as it is now, so lots of things about the way the original builder built it will need to be worked though. That's going to be a big job.
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budflow
Joined: Sun Aug 16, 2015 10:24 am Posts: 10
Vehicle: suzuki sierra
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 Posted: Mon Aug 17, 2015 5:09 pm |
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jdk81 wrote: Are you hoping to rego this thing? I think it'll be an uphill battle, and totally not worth the effort unless some of this stuff is stuff is plated already.
Looking at the yellow on the front diff, any chance it came from vic/melb way at some stage? As suz rolly, front diff looks to be hilux, and the rear looks to be bundera (as the centre is quite offset).
The gearbox cross member has been cut and modified to fit the gearbox
I see the cardan joint under the original transfer shifter hole. I couldn't really see, but is there a transfer case in the car? there is a transfer case. the car is only for when i go hunting just to get around the property's. the weld looks pretty shit im gonna get all the shafts redone. so the diffs are defintaly not sierra im taking?  
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budflow
Joined: Sun Aug 16, 2015 10:24 am Posts: 10
Vehicle: suzuki sierra
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 Posted: Mon Aug 17, 2015 5:37 pm |
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Gwagensteve wrote: I think thats the end of the shift rail housing for a Sierra transfer in the pic of the cardan joint.
mudflow, I don't want to sound like a hater, but this car is going to a massive amount of trouble. The fabrication looks rough and hasty, there's just tonnes of troubleshooting to be done, and when it's all finished, it won't be that effective. Even if it was certified, certiainly in Victoria if your registration lapses the engineers approval goes with it, so the car has to be re-approved. I don't believe that car could pass engineering now (if it ever did)
Even if it was just to be trailered to drives on private property, I don't think the effort will be worth the return.
Yes, the transfer case has been moved rearwards to accommodate the length of the Isuzu gearbox, So driveshafts will all be custom hilux base. Yes, it has had Hilux/bundera axles grafted into it with what look to be hilux springs in a spring over configuration.
I'm sure a couple of weekends of work and maybe $500 could get it moving. At that point you'll need to start working the bugs out. It doesn't look to have been used much setup as it is now, so lots of things about the way the original builder built it will need to be worked though. That's going to be a big job. yeh i knew it was gonna be tricky when i got it but like i said above might have to get the front and rear shaft all re-done properly. just trying to rectify what exactly my diffs are so i can explain to the drive shaft specialist, so i can pretend i know what im talking about so i dont get ripped off 
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Gwagensteve
Joined: Thu Feb 26, 2009 10:30 pm Posts: 13007 Location: Melbourne
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Get ready to get your wallet out. Those driveshafts are going to cost, especially if the cardan joints are in poor condition.
Going rate to shorten and balance a supplied driveshaft is about $130 (that's with the driveshaft shop supplying nothing)
Everything else will cost more from there. Front Hiluix shafts are very expensive due to the double cardan joint.
Steve.
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