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Kor3y101
Joined: Tue Aug 18, 2015 6:50 pm Posts: 613 Location: Ipswich
Vehicle: 98 Jimny
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 Posted: Sun Jan 10, 2016 6:44 pm |
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Hello,
So after breaking the short side transfer mount, I ordered 3 new ones from suzistore and they arrived. Being lazy, I only replaced the broken one and kept the others as spares. The ones that were on the Sierra when I first bought it were round ones. I have now replaced them with square ones.
So the story goes, I replaced the broken one on the short side and drove it for a couple weeks without any issues. On New Years Day I went up to Queen Mary Falls and as I was driving up the mountain and around a corner I saw the stick start to shake side to side like it had a broken mount.
So a few days later I changed the long side mounts to the new ones. However the problem persisted. Ordered a transfer bush kit, I've installed that today and still no change. Shakes just as bad. I drove it without anything covering the tunnel so I could see the case, and the whole thing shakes, not just the lever.
It does this when taking off in first and when giving it a boot full after just changing to second. Any other gear is normal.
I have checked the mounting bolts are tight on the case and the mounts and they are all good. I've checked the Uni joints and they seem to have a slight amount of movement, but it's hard to tell if it's the joint or just the shaft moving around. It moves sideways maybe 1-2mm at most.
I'm at a lost as to what it could be. Is it possible the mounts are too soft and allows to much movement? Or is it something else?
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Kor3y101
Joined: Tue Aug 18, 2015 6:50 pm Posts: 613 Location: Ipswich
Vehicle: 98 Jimny
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 Posted: Sun Jan 10, 2016 6:55 pm |
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Here is a video of me grabbing the rear tail shaft just before the joint in the first 1/4 of it (no idea what else to call it) and shaking it. It seems to shake far too much for me to be happy with it I think. Which is what makes me think something is wrong with the mounts. Here's a video of it; http://s1383.photobucket.com/user/Kor3y ... w.mp4.html
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just_cruizin

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Joined: Sun Jun 25, 2006 11:30 pm Posts: 2867 Location: here
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 Posted: Sun Jan 10, 2016 7:25 pm |
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Jack shaft Uni joints is my bet
_________________ greenzook89 wrote: 31zook wrote: Makes me want something similar
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Kor3y101
Joined: Tue Aug 18, 2015 6:50 pm Posts: 613 Location: Ipswich
Vehicle: 98 Jimny
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 Posted: Sun Jan 10, 2016 7:30 pm |
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So that would Let the case shake around like that? I'll double check the joints in the morning.
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Gwagensteve
Joined: Thu Feb 26, 2009 10:30 pm Posts: 13007 Location: Melbourne
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Unis.
There should be no detectable play in a Uni in any direction.
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MrRocky
Joined: Thu Dec 17, 2009 10:30 pm Posts: 4731 Location: perth
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 Posted: Mon Jan 11, 2016 6:45 am |
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Ive found all aftermarket replacements including lowrange to have a stupid amount of movement when compared to stock. Just cruzins poly kit seemed good
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jdk81
Joined: Sat Jul 18, 2009 11:30 pm Posts: 2372 Location: Ballarat, VIC
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+1 on aftermarket unis, they suck butthole.
I pillaged old oem from other shafts, and fixed the issue. 20 year old unis work better than aftermarket ones. I would only buy oem unis
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MrRocky
Joined: Thu Dec 17, 2009 10:30 pm Posts: 4731 Location: perth
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 Posted: Mon Jan 11, 2016 8:35 am |
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Gwagensteve
Joined: Thu Feb 26, 2009 10:30 pm Posts: 13007 Location: Melbourne
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 Posted: Mon Jan 11, 2016 8:37 am |
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I like stock Bridgestone mounts in 1.3's. They're vital in taking shock load off the transfer gears.
Steve.
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greenzook89

az supporter
Joined: Sun Sep 06, 2009 11:30 pm Posts: 2591 Location: Ipswich
Vehicle: LJ80V-II, SJ40, SJ40T, RS415
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 Posted: Mon Jan 11, 2016 8:52 am |
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I got Koyos last time... seem to be holding up well so far.
EDIT: koyo unis. I'm still running stock oem rubber mounts and have a spare few from a lowkm Jimny for spares.
_________________ 31zook wrote: Makes me want something similar
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Kor3y101
Joined: Tue Aug 18, 2015 6:50 pm Posts: 613 Location: Ipswich
Vehicle: 98 Jimny
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 Posted: Mon Jan 11, 2016 10:13 am |
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I've ordered a pair of new ones today, hopefully get them in a couple days and throw them in the jack shaft to see if it fixes the issue. I got under this morning and tried to see if there was much play in them, the joint that bolts to the transfer case has a bit of sideways movement from the shaft, probably 2-3mm. I suspect the gearbox end would have the same.
So I hope that would be causing my issue.
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Gwagensteve
Joined: Thu Feb 26, 2009 10:30 pm Posts: 13007 Location: Melbourne
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That's going to be it. The vibration will cause rapid failure and when the Uni goes it's not uncommon to destroy a yoke. Annoyingly when it's the jackshaft, that's often the slip yoke in the back of the gearbox.
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MrRocky
Joined: Thu Dec 17, 2009 10:30 pm Posts: 4731 Location: perth
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 Posted: Mon Jan 11, 2016 10:43 am |
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U can also have similar vibration with a tight uni, it can have no play and seem ok but be almost seized.
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Gwagensteve
Joined: Thu Feb 26, 2009 10:30 pm Posts: 13007 Location: Melbourne
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Good point Mr Rocky. Much harder to detect.
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Kor3y101
Joined: Tue Aug 18, 2015 6:50 pm Posts: 613 Location: Ipswich
Vehicle: 98 Jimny
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 Posted: Mon Jan 11, 2016 12:52 pm |
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Yeah, either one may be it. But it definitely seems to be the U-joints. So I'll get them fixed as soon as possible. Also Steve, when you mean when a Uni goes it destroys a yoke, do you mean when it decided to go bang and snap, or at its stage now?
Cheers, Korey
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