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outram
Joined: Mon Aug 30, 2010 9:51 am Posts: 130 Location: newcastle
Vehicle: suzuki sierra sj80
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 Posted: Fri Oct 14, 2016 6:31 am |
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Any thoughts on how hard and is it been worth it converting to auto cheers
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rexhunta

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Joined: Sun Jan 26, 2014 9:03 am Posts: 212 Location: Leschenault, WA.
Vehicle: 2020 Vitara Turbo
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 Posted: Fri Oct 14, 2016 7:06 am |
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AW4 requires auto loom + auto ecus ( main ecu + sub ecu.)
Lots of little extra wires to add in around the cab, few extra lights for overdrive + economy/speed.
Possibly better off finding an auto Vitara and either swapping or selling yours.
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Gwagensteve
Joined: Thu Feb 26, 2009 10:30 pm Posts: 13007 Location: Melbourne
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 Posted: Fri Oct 14, 2016 7:10 am |
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Yep. no point making a conversion out of something Suzuki already built ( and are easy to find)
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outram
Joined: Mon Aug 30, 2010 9:51 am Posts: 130 Location: newcastle
Vehicle: suzuki sierra sj80
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 Posted: Fri Oct 14, 2016 8:31 am |
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Yeh wasn't going to stuff around going to get another zook and swap gear over how do they go out the bush though be good giving more control and good at 5am driving to work haha
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Gwagensteve
Joined: Thu Feb 26, 2009 10:30 pm Posts: 13007 Location: Melbourne
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 Posted: Fri Oct 14, 2016 9:11 am |
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Autos are superior to manuals in all off road situations, with two provisos.
A) they can cover poor gearing due to the torque converter, but poor gearing results in lots of torque converter heat and poor engine braking B) there isn't a sensible alternative to dropping the clutch to clean the tyres out of you do lots of muddy climbs. Yes, you can neutral drop but this is hard on the auto. Because my car is very low geared I have sometimes has tombeutral drop in high range to generate enough wheelspeed to get the car moving
I wouldn't own a manual 4wd by choice. My defender is very good offroad as a manual but it has anti stall, a very powerful Hand brake and very low gearing which closes the gap in performance a bit between the gearboxes.
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britvit
Joined: Sun Jan 31, 2010 10:30 pm Posts: 627
Vehicle: vits
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 Posted: Fri Oct 14, 2016 9:55 am |
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rexhunta wrote: AW4 requires auto loom + auto ecus ( main ecu + sub ecu.)
Lots of little extra wires to add in around the cab, few extra lights for overdrive + economy/speed.
Possibly better off finding an auto Vitara and either swapping or selling yours. Just for the record, ecus are interchangeable between manual & auto Vitaras.
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Gwagensteve
Joined: Thu Feb 26, 2009 10:30 pm Posts: 13007 Location: Melbourne
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 Posted: Fri Oct 14, 2016 9:59 am |
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The auto Vitara has a separate transmission control computer.
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britvit
Joined: Sun Jan 31, 2010 10:30 pm Posts: 627
Vehicle: vits
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 Posted: Fri Oct 14, 2016 10:10 am |
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Yes, but the manual ecu still has the output signal for the tcm. Ecus can be swapped between auto & manual versions.
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Gwagensteve
Joined: Thu Feb 26, 2009 10:30 pm Posts: 13007 Location: Melbourne
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 Posted: Fri Oct 14, 2016 10:26 am |
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That's what I was saying.
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outram
Joined: Mon Aug 30, 2010 9:51 am Posts: 130 Location: newcastle
Vehicle: suzuki sierra sj80
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 Posted: Fri Oct 14, 2016 11:01 am |
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Ok cheers guys I'll have to look for an doner car then haha
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rexhunta

az supporter
Joined: Sun Jan 26, 2014 9:03 am Posts: 212 Location: Leschenault, WA.
Vehicle: 2020 Vitara Turbo
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 Posted: Fri Oct 14, 2016 6:30 pm |
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britvit wrote: rexhunta wrote: AW4 requires auto loom + auto ecus ( main ecu + sub ecu.)
Lots of little extra wires to add in around the cab, few extra lights for overdrive + economy/speed.
Possibly better off finding an auto Vitara and either swapping or selling yours. Just for the record, ecus are interchangeable between manual & auto Vitaras. Odd, the ECU for this car actually states AM for the main ECU and in my car ( both series 2 vitara setups ) had MT. Usually Auto ecus that I have played around with before have the idle bump up and few other bits and pieces, so you can use the auto in the manual but not the other way around.
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britvit
Joined: Sun Jan 31, 2010 10:30 pm Posts: 627
Vehicle: vits
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 Posted: Fri Oct 14, 2016 8:02 pm |
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By series 2 I'm guessing you're talking about the later (95ish) models with the mesh afm? I don't know about these, but the earlier ones can definitely be swapped both ways.
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rexhunta

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Joined: Sun Jan 26, 2014 9:03 am Posts: 212 Location: Leschenault, WA.
Vehicle: 2020 Vitara Turbo
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 Posted: Fri Oct 14, 2016 9:14 pm |
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britvit wrote: By series 2 I'm guessing you're talking about the later (95ish) models with the mesh afm? I don't know about these, but the earlier ones can definitely be swapped both ways. Correct, the hotwire afm
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outram
Joined: Mon Aug 30, 2010 9:51 am Posts: 130 Location: newcastle
Vehicle: suzuki sierra sj80
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 Posted: Sat Oct 15, 2016 3:27 pm |
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Well it's food for thought my manual box isn't to bad just be nice
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