[Kylebooker]

Hey guys,

I have got a suzuki jimny 2012 1.3 all standard and looking at getting a lift kit for it
I'm unsure on what lift to get as I am looking for some extra clearance. What tyres would be good thinking
more so all terrain tyres on it. At this stage I'm been looking at either the 40mm or 50mm lift.
Not looking to spend big $ just for a lift around $700 if possible? Not looking at going major 4wd

Any Thoughts opinions will be muchly appreciated
cheerss

[barrybanks]

Don't worry about a lift. Put 4 Bilstein shocks under it and you'll love it.

Dunno what tyres to get, cause I don't know what to put on myself.

If you get 215/75/15 tyres you will loose at least 50km per tank, best you'll get is a range of about 350km with another 5litres in reserve.

But standard tyre size is slim pickings for AT, Bridgestone have just stopped making their AT dueller, and no Pirelli Scorpions AT. Dunlop Grandtreks are still available atm.

[Kylebooker]

Thanks for responding,
I think I will do that and buy some. Are there specific ones I need?
I checked on eBay and have B6 and B4's.

Yeah was thinking that having bigger tyres would chew on the fuel. I will definitely check that out as I will have to cover new tyres shortly.

Thanks for the advice

[barrybanks]

Find a reputable Bilstein dealer and they will sort you out.

I don't know about B6 or B4. I'll check out mine tonight. Its not the kind of thing I would buy online.

[Gwagensteve]

Bilstiens are a high quality shock but their monotube design means wheel travel reduced compared to a standard jimny
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[vet 180]

Gwagensteve wrote:

Bilstiens are a high quality shock but their monotube design means wheel travel reduced compared to a standard jimny
Is

True. But if he plans to run a sway bar the loss of shock travel won't make a difference

[Gwagensteve]

I'd imagine reducing wheel travel wouldn't be seen as an acceptable option.

Personally, unless you're trying to improve load carrying, I wouldn't bother with a suspension lift - they seem to be a bit problematic on Jimny's, and suspension lift doesn't having anything to do with ground clearance or tyre fitment.

215 tyres would be fine, I'm really struggling to see how they drop economy 12%, but even so they are the best option.

Steve.

[vet 180]

Gwagensteve wrote:

I'd imagine reducing wheel travel wouldn't be seen as an acceptable option.

Personally, unless you're trying to improve load carrying, I wouldn't bother with a suspension lift - they seem to be a bit problematic on Jimny's, and suspension lift doesn't having anything to do with ground clearance or tyre fitment.

215 tyres would be fine, I'm really struggling to see how they drop economy 12%, but even so they are the best option.

Steve.

The shocks won't reduce front wheel travel if he runs a sway bar. Jimnys with the sway bar on do not get close to stock wheel travel. It will reduce a little in the rear, but won't have any real affect off-road as the front will be the limiting factor.

In saying that everything else said I agree with. Just get good radius arm mount braces and skid plates before lift. And remove the sway bar off-road


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[barrybanks]

I've just put on my 215/75/15 Hankook MT's back on my car.

They feel great on the road at about 28psi, nice and supple compared to the standard size at the same pressure.

They are exactly 50mm larger diameter and according to the speedo on a trip to work, put the speedo out by 5%

Its only early days but I'm not sure I can live with the loss of power.

After my M16A engine conversion I did a before and after hillclimb time trial, my M13A was 16.8 seconds from 60km to 100km up my local hillclimb, after the conversion I was doing a 9.4 second consistently. Now with the 215's I'm back to 14.3 seconds.

Still faster than I started with but I think I want my fast Zook back?

As far as suspension goes, it depends on what you intend on doing, my car is a road warrior with occasional beach trips and firetrail roads.

[privatepablo]

In relation to the comment made about 350km max out of your tank while running 215/75 R15. I think that honestly depends on how each person drives, I'm running Hankook MT in the same size and i get 390 before the fuel light pops up. In saying that however, you also need to take into account that your trip meter will be off by 5% i believe, so really you're actually loosing less economy than what it might seem. Correct me if I'm wrong, however I do think that's how it works anyway.

[vet 180]

To the OP if you do want to lift within your budget (or any budget tbh) I would loot for a quality shocks 450mm extended front and 490mm ex rear with as close as possible to stock compressed lengths of 280mm front and 300mm rear with some 30mm spring spacers.


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[barrybanks]

My apologies for the dud info, I stand corrected on the fuel consumption.

I fitted my fatties and matched the tyre pressure with the outgoing tyres, 28psi, and consumption is the same taking into account the speedo being 5% out.

I have noticed that the range has always been quite susceptible to fuel quality. 98 octane seems to be not always consistent. I was filling up from a shitty looking Metro with 95 octane and it outperformed my locally sourced 98 everytime. Unfortunately it has changed to a 94 ethanol now.

[Gwagensteve]

Barry, I'm unsure of whether a 2102 jimny is designed to exploit higher octane fuel by automatically adjusting timing to take account of the slower burn of 98. (Can anyone confirm this?) Generally new cars with knock sensing will advance timing to suit the better fuel but it's not universally the case.

98 has a relatively short shelf life compared to regular unleaded. Depending on volume sold, it might be stale.
95 has *at least* 95 octane and may be 98

As an example of the opposite problem, we have Renault Kangoo vans at work. They require 95 but the numpties at work are forever putting 91 in them. This retards the timing so severely they're almost undrivable.

[barrybanks]

How would you confirm or deny the timing adjustability of a Jimny. What sort of tool do you need? After I replaced my engine I drove 75 meters to my mechanic and he diagnosed my misfire to the No.3 cylinder and I found the problem in 10 mins, I wish I had one of those handheld tools. Pretty expensive though according to him.

[Gwagensteve]

It's less a tool and more knowing the functionality of the ecu.
Scan tools are not necessarily all that expensive, however generally you can get the check engine light to flash basic trouble codes.

There are lots of generic OBDII readers available, features dictate price.

[Marko_SJ]

If looking for OBDII reader, ScanGaugeII works well and I'd recommend. I think you can use an adaptor dongle and phone app too if that's more your style.

[vet 180]

Gwagensteve wrote:

Barry, I'm unsure of whether a 2102 jimny is designed to exploit higher octane fuel by automatically adjusting timing to take account of the slower burn of 98. (Can anyone confirm this?) Generally new cars with knock sensing will advance timing to suit the better fuel but it's not universally the case.

98 has a relatively short shelf life compared to regular unleaded. Depending on volume sold, it might be stale.
95 has *at least* 95 octane and may be 98

As an example of the opposite problem, we have Renault Kangoo vans at work. They require 95 but the numpties at work are forever putting 91 in them. This retards the timing so severely they're almost undrivable.

This.

Generally because 98 has the shorter shelf life and is used much less by the general public it can easily go stale. The amount of times I have had stale 98 I can count on 2 hands.

For a jimny I would be running run of the mill 91.


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[Gwagensteve]

I believe AU delivered 2012 jimnys are supposed to run 95(?)

[markmo]

Gwagensteve wrote:

I believe AU delivered 2012 jimnys are supposed to run 95(?)

My 2011 is meant to run 95 due to the high compression, pretty sure there were no engine changes in the lifespan of the vvt m13a.

[vet 180]

Gwagensteve wrote:

I believe AU delivered 2012 jimnys are supposed to run 95(?)

Maybe. Haven't run a Jim in Aus. Over here I just put the cheapest fuel at the servo in. Runs the same as the expensive stuff.

To the OP back when I had a few turbo cars in Aus they would always run pretty good on that 10% ethanol stuff often better than BP 98.


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[Mike57]

My 2009 is designed for 95 RON and has a sticker inside the filler cap to say that. I have only used 98 RON when available and for some reason the United 98 RON seems to be the best of the lot. I can notice the difference between 91 and 98 when I have had no option in the bush.

The Hankook MT in 215/75/15 are a good choice. You do notice the slight loss of gearing but they are the largest to go for without gearing alterations.

I looked at the Bilstein shocks a while back but they were shorter than the standard shocks. I went for EFS and while they are a very firm ride this is what my Jimny needed.