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lump_a_charcoal

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Joined: Wed Feb 28, 2007 10:30 pm Posts: 4454 Location: Botany, NSW
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 Posted: Fri Oct 09, 2009 9:41 pm |
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Hey all -
What sort of bearing and seal is meant to be on the rear output of a sierra tcase? As i was tightening up the flanges, I noticed some play when the flange was tight.
I pulled it off, and then noticed the seal doesn't meet the shaft, and the bearing isn't sealed. If I am correct, this will allow oil to escape, right?
Questions -
Is the rear output bearing meant to be sealed?
Is the rear output seal meant to contact the shaft?
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lump_a_charcoal

az supporter
Joined: Wed Feb 28, 2007 10:30 pm Posts: 4454 Location: Botany, NSW
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 Posted: Fri Oct 09, 2009 11:40 pm |
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Mods - Please move this to the "I'm a dickhead" thread - the space is where the flange seats...
DER!
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lump_a_charcoal

az supporter
Joined: Wed Feb 28, 2007 10:30 pm Posts: 4454 Location: Botany, NSW
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 Posted: Sat Oct 10, 2009 12:30 am |
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if I was a mod I could move it myself...
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royce

omnipotent being
Joined: Sun Jun 11, 2006 11:30 pm Posts: 17216 Location: Pluto
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 Posted: Sat Oct 10, 2009 12:40 am |
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Yeah merging threads is too hard, I guess people will jsut have to come here to laugh at you
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lump_a_charcoal

az supporter
Joined: Wed Feb 28, 2007 10:30 pm Posts: 4454 Location: Botany, NSW
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 Posted: Sat Oct 10, 2009 12:42 am |
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I have noticed though that even with the nut done up, there is still a bit of play in the flange - I reckon it can slide about .5mm back and forwards. Normal?
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royce

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Joined: Sun Jun 11, 2006 11:30 pm Posts: 17216 Location: Pluto
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lump_a_charcoal

az supporter
Joined: Wed Feb 28, 2007 10:30 pm Posts: 4454 Location: Botany, NSW
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 Posted: Sat Oct 10, 2009 12:49 am |
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There is a washer?
Are there washers on all flanges?
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royce

omnipotent being
Joined: Sun Jun 11, 2006 11:30 pm Posts: 17216 Location: Pluto
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twitchy
Joined: Fri Jul 25, 2008 11:30 pm Posts: 1086 Location: Lightning Ridge
Vehicle: 1999 Jimny
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lump_a_charcoal wrote: There is a washer?
Are there washers on all flanges?
Hopefully before ya go down on them................. 
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BlueSuzy

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Joined: Sun May 04, 2008 11:30 pm Posts: 9711 Location: NSW
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mmm cheesymite
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303zuke

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Joined: Wed Aug 19, 2009 11:30 pm Posts: 2447
Vehicle: LJ50V, SJ70
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 Posted: Sat Oct 10, 2009 12:47 pm |
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"My T/case has Widetrack Flanges"
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lump_a_charcoal

az supporter
Joined: Wed Feb 28, 2007 10:30 pm Posts: 4454 Location: Botany, NSW
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 Posted: Sat Oct 10, 2009 1:09 pm |
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Ha ha yeah now back to the serius question... I can't remember there being washers behind the flange nuts, are there supposed to be?
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Munster
Joined: Sun Jan 04, 2009 10:30 pm Posts: 182 Location: Penrith, NSW
Vehicle: 1993 Sierra 1.6 efi Vit motor,
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No washers, but you have to really tighten the flange nuts, bolt a bar to the flange to hold it while tightening the nut.
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Trojan
Joined: Mon May 26, 2008 11:30 pm Posts: 390
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Munster wrote: No washers, but you have to really tighten the flange nuts, bolt a bar to the flange to hold it while tightening the nut.
My coily case had washers, and so did the 1L case i replaced it with.
Last edited by Trojan on Sat Oct 10, 2009 1:22 pm, edited 1 time in total.
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Damo

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Joined: Sat Jul 22, 2006 11:30 pm Posts: 4661 Location: Brisbane
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All the ones I have pulled apart have washers. Big fat ones, about 4mm thick.
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lump_a_charcoal

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Joined: Wed Feb 28, 2007 10:30 pm Posts: 4454 Location: Botany, NSW
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 Posted: Sat Oct 10, 2009 2:31 pm |
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Hmmm - OK I went to Boltmaster and got some washers, but they don't fit over the splines, so are useless.
This is harder than I thought.
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steak_knife

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Joined: Fri May 22, 2009 11:30 pm Posts: 21335 Location: Smart Ass Island
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lump_a_charcoal wrote: Hmmm - OK I went to Boltmaster and got some washers, but they don't fit over the splines, so are useless. This is harder than I thought.
Do you have a die grinder????
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lump_a_charcoal

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Joined: Wed Feb 28, 2007 10:30 pm Posts: 4454 Location: Botany, NSW
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 Posted: Sat Oct 10, 2009 4:33 pm |
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I have a burr and a pretty fast drill that will do the job - I am just at a loss as to why it was fine before these new gears went in, and now it isn't good. It is even the same shaft, same flange, same nut.
There was definitely no washer/spacer when I took off the flanges - :confused
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royce

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Joined: Sun Jun 11, 2006 11:30 pm Posts: 17216 Location: Pluto
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 Posted: Sat Oct 10, 2009 6:03 pm |
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is the flange moving on the splines or the shaft itself moving?
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lump_a_charcoal

az supporter
Joined: Wed Feb 28, 2007 10:30 pm Posts: 4454 Location: Botany, NSW
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 Posted: Sat Oct 10, 2009 6:38 pm |
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I sorted it out -
I AM A DICK HEAD AGAIN.
I left the spacer off the end of the shaft.
It is all back together properly now, and in 1hrs time will be bolted into my truck.
Thanks for all the help and ridicule.
Now, how about Modding me?
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303zuke

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Joined: Wed Aug 19, 2009 11:30 pm Posts: 2447
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 Posted: Sun Oct 11, 2009 1:32 am |
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lump_a_charcoal wrote: Ha ha yeah now back to the serius question... I can't remember there being washers behind the flange nuts, are there supposed to be?
This thread is destined for the gutter. First we thought your flanges were loose, now the Doc needs to look at your nuts.
The 1.0lt Sierras used a plain nut with washer, while the 1.3 N/T, W/T and Coily should have nuts with a large skirted flange as part of the nut. These nuts do not need another washer. Either type is interchangable, but the plain nut must have a washer, or the skirted nut just alone.
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Trojan
Joined: Mon May 26, 2008 11:30 pm Posts: 390
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303zuke wrote: The 1.0lt Sierras used a plain nut with washer, while the 1.3 N/T, W/T and Coily should have nuts with a large skirted flange as part of the nut. These nuts do not need another washer. Either type is interchangable, but the plain nut must have a washer, or the skirted nut just alone.
Actually, my coily had the standard nut and washer.
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lump_a_charcoal

az supporter
Joined: Wed Feb 28, 2007 10:30 pm Posts: 4454 Location: Botany, NSW
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 Posted: Sun Oct 11, 2009 10:50 am |
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Having new dramas now -
I cannot get the case into position with the twin sticks and cradle on it.
I need to remove the top flange, remove the twin sticks, install the case and cradle (mighty kong), reinstall the twin sticks, re-install the top flange, then the jack shaft.
THis is going to be tricky!
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