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money_killer
Joined: Tue Jun 23, 2009 11:30 pm Posts: 301 Location: Sunshine Coast - Brisbane
Vehicle: 90 WT ST Locker, Tyres
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hey guys i noticed a few weekends ago when i was out at glasshouse when i was on a steep hill raping it or getting air born and front wheels picking up while raping it, it would start to die or starve for fuel. wat causes this and can it be over come ?
would a decent electric fuel pump over come this ? and do i need to take it easier ?
thanks aaron
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steak_knife

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Joined: Fri May 22, 2009 11:30 pm Posts: 21335 Location: Smart Ass Island
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 Posted: Wed Oct 14, 2009 10:48 pm |
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2 word`s. Get a Grand Vitara.
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money_killer
Joined: Tue Jun 23, 2009 11:30 pm Posts: 301 Location: Sunshine Coast - Brisbane
Vehicle: 90 WT ST Locker, Tyres
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 Posted: Wed Oct 14, 2009 10:54 pm |
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Joe

I live here!
Joined: Sat Jul 04, 2009 11:30 pm Posts: 49041 Location: Rockingham W.A
Vehicle: JB74
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 Posted: Wed Oct 14, 2009 10:55 pm |
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steknig wrote: 2 word`s. Get a Grand Vitara.
Thats four 
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steak_knife

az supporter
Joined: Fri May 22, 2009 11:30 pm Posts: 21335 Location: Smart Ass Island
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 Posted: Wed Oct 14, 2009 10:59 pm |
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joseph wrote: steknig wrote: 2 word`s. Get a Grand Vitara. Thats four 
4 Gv`s? that`s like, 2 3som`s 
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v.w.dave
Joined: Sun Sep 27, 2009 11:30 pm Posts: 1437 Location: The Hills Sydney
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getting air hmmmm
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steak_knife

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Joined: Fri May 22, 2009 11:30 pm Posts: 21335 Location: Smart Ass Island
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 Posted: Wed Oct 14, 2009 11:10 pm |
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v.w.dave wrote: getting air hmmmm
You should try it... 
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Taff
Joined: Sun Aug 13, 2006 11:30 pm Posts: 889 Location: Brisbane
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Get used to it or upgrade to efi.
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money_killer
Joined: Tue Jun 23, 2009 11:30 pm Posts: 301 Location: Sunshine Coast - Brisbane
Vehicle: 90 WT ST Locker, Tyres
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 Posted: Wed Oct 14, 2009 11:26 pm |
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Taff wrote: Get used to it or upgrade to efi.
hmmm i see so an electric fuel pump wouldnt do anyting ?
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Taff
Joined: Sun Aug 13, 2006 11:30 pm Posts: 889 Location: Brisbane
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 Posted: Wed Oct 14, 2009 11:45 pm |
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the only experience i personally have with electric fuel pumps on zooks is on my mates. It was on there when he bought it. He constantly had fueling issues so replaced it with a standard mechanical pump and he never had another problem.
If the stock pump is working correctly i wouldnt change it.
Mine used to drown itself in the same way you describe, really bad when bouncing the front up ledges. I was told its actually the carby flooding the engine and i dont see how a different pump would change this.
I never tried to fix it though, just went straight to 1.6MPFI.
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money_killer
Joined: Tue Jun 23, 2009 11:30 pm Posts: 301 Location: Sunshine Coast - Brisbane
Vehicle: 90 WT ST Locker, Tyres
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Taff wrote: the only experience i personally have with electric fuel pumps on zooks is on my mates. It was on there when he bought it. He constantly had fueling issues so replaced it with a standard mechanical pump and he never had another problem.
If the stock pump is working correctly i wouldnt change it.
Mine used to drown itself in the same way you describe, really bad when bouncing the front up ledges. I was told its actually the carby flooding the engine and i dont see how a different pump would change this.
I never tried to fix it though, just went straight to 1.6MPFI.
i see no worries, think i will just approach things a bit differently.
thanks aaron
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steak_knife

az supporter
Joined: Fri May 22, 2009 11:30 pm Posts: 21335 Location: Smart Ass Island
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money_killer wrote: Taff wrote: the only experience i personally have with electric fuel pumps on zooks is on my mates. It was on there when he bought it. He constantly had fueling issues so replaced it with a standard mechanical pump and he never had another problem.
If the stock pump is working correctly i wouldnt change it.
Mine used to drown itself in the same way you describe, really bad when bouncing the front up ledges. I was told its actually the carby flooding the engine and i dont see how a different pump would change this.
I never tried to fix it though, just went straight to 1.6MPFI. i see no worries, think i will just approach things a bit differently. thanks aaron Faster!!! 
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Highway-Star
Joined: Thu Apr 30, 2009 11:30 pm Posts: 4109 Location: Ipswich
Vehicle: LJ80V-II (a proper Stockman)
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steknig wrote: money_killer wrote: Taff wrote: the only experience i personally have with electric fuel pumps on zooks is on my mates. It was on there when he bought it. He constantly had fueling issues so replaced it with a standard mechanical pump and he never had another problem.
If the stock pump is working correctly i wouldnt change it.
Mine used to drown itself in the same way you describe, really bad when bouncing the front up ledges. I was told its actually the carby flooding the engine and i dont see how a different pump would change this.
I never tried to fix it though, just went straight to 1.6MPFI. i see no worries, think i will just approach things a bit differently. thanks aaron Faster!!! 
My Father gets airborn on a regular basis (3rd gear low on 31's fast enough?), and has no problem with the carby starving. He only gets problems on really steep hills (as I did as well).
Sorry couldn't resist, dad airborne on the weekend... hehehe
Steknig, why get a GV when you can just nick the motor from one 
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steak_knife

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Joined: Fri May 22, 2009 11:30 pm Posts: 21335 Location: Smart Ass Island
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You only got a toy 1.6 tho, 2.5 V6 that`s the way to fly!! 
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Highway-Star
Joined: Thu Apr 30, 2009 11:30 pm Posts: 4109 Location: Ipswich
Vehicle: LJ80V-II (a proper Stockman)
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steknig wrote: You only got a toy 1.6 tho, 2.5 V6 that`s the way to fly!! 
Put one in your Sierra... c'mon you know you want to
SJ625 FTW!!!
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steak_knife

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Joined: Fri May 22, 2009 11:30 pm Posts: 21335 Location: Smart Ass Island
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Dot won`t let me, been down this path, 2.00 tho & was 10yr ago.
don`t think thay will have changed their mind`s about it, it would have to be a Lwb. 
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Highway-Star
Joined: Thu Apr 30, 2009 11:30 pm Posts: 4109 Location: Ipswich
Vehicle: LJ80V-II (a proper Stockman)
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steknig wrote: Dot won`t let me, been down this path, 2.00 tho & was 10yr ago. don`t think thay will have changed their mind`s about it, it would have to be a Lwb. 
Don't know about a H25, but I have heard of an engineer who reckons he'd pass a H20 in a SWB Sierra....
Sorry to the OP, getting off topic here 
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steak_knife

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Joined: Fri May 22, 2009 11:30 pm Posts: 21335 Location: Smart Ass Island
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Highway-Star wrote: steknig wrote: Dot won`t let me, been down this path, 2.00 tho & was 10yr ago. don`t think thay will have changed their mind`s about it, it would have to be a Lwb.  Don't know about a H25, but I have heard of an engineer who reckons he'd pass a H20 in a SWB Sierra.... Sorry to the OP, getting off topic here 
I think we will need to talk soon..
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JrZook
Joined: Tue Aug 08, 2006 11:30 pm Posts: 5517 Location: Holland Park
Vehicle: Awesome!!
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Highway-Star wrote: steknig wrote: You only got a toy 1.6 tho, 2.5 V6 that`s the way to fly!!  Put one in your Sierra... c'mon you know you want to  SJ625 FTW!!!
Does steknig have wheels?
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LAY80N
Joined: Tue Jul 28, 2009 11:30 pm Posts: 455 Location: Newcastle NSW
Vehicle: I drive your mum
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Basically a carby uses gravity to work. Fuel is supplied to the float bowl through the neddle and seat valve. When the car is level or fairly level this works fine, the bowl is kept at the correct level by the action of the float on the neddle and seat balve. But once we throw in some angles, the design of the float bowl and the float itself become less effective. Then end result is either the neddle adn seat valve staying open causing the fuel level to get too high and spills over into the carby through the float bowl vent (usually when climbing), or the carby can starve for fuel as the fuel moves away from the jets (not really an issue with zook carbys).
Layto....
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money_killer
Joined: Tue Jun 23, 2009 11:30 pm Posts: 301 Location: Sunshine Coast - Brisbane
Vehicle: 90 WT ST Locker, Tyres
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 Posted: Thu Oct 15, 2009 9:45 pm |
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303zuke

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Joined: Wed Aug 19, 2009 11:30 pm Posts: 2447
Vehicle: LJ50V, SJ70
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 Posted: Fri Oct 16, 2009 10:41 pm |
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For really BIG air time in a Zuke, you need one of THESE!
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DMAC

az supporter
Joined: Thu Jan 29, 2009 10:30 pm Posts: 1612 Location: North Brisbane
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 Posted: Sat Oct 17, 2009 11:45 pm |
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Had the same issue today. Going up a step hill with a small step, bounce, snuff, right at the critical time when you need to punch over the step. Just another zuk charateristic to deal with.
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